Windows 8 Release Preview
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Except the question was about dual-booting. I'm curious about this too. Currently have Windows 7, Windows 8 and Ubuntu. I'm hesitant to 'upgrade' Windows 7 since I'm seeing some issues with Windows 8. I wonder if an upgrade might help though, like Windows being unable to install drivers for my USB.
Jzero
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It clearly states right there that the upgrade replaces the old license completely so you wouldn't be dual booting between 7 and 8. That's what an upgrade does. Your windows 7 would be transformed to windows 8 and you would only be dual booting with Windows 8 and Ubuntu.
LukasTaves
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That's awesome, thank you!
And you can scroll other metro apps? That's weird...
Testing it more i noticed that it scrolls a lot faster than other metro apps... They are probably doing something undefault on that...
Guess I won't be upgrading then. Oh well.
there are some other RSS readers with google reader support in the store now as well. Seems like Feed Reader is the only one that has Readability functionality at the moment though.
Anyway, some of the ones that look like they could be good:
MV Press
News Bento
Modern Reader
Readiculous
Readiculous looks the best imo, but without Readabilty support (or someway to see the whole article without going to the browser) then its a no go for me.
edit: although using it in snapped view works really well. You have your RSS list and IE10 in the 3/4 view.
Anyway, some of the ones that look like they could be good:
MV Press
News Bento
Modern Reader
Readiculous
Readiculous looks the best imo, but without Readabilty support (or someway to see the whole article without going to the browser) then its a no go for me.
edit: although using it in snapped view works really well. You have your RSS list and IE10 in the 3/4 view.
I have been using Modern Reader for a while and prefer it overall. Although i am waiting for the WP7 developer of Nexgen reader or Wonder Reader to develop for Windows 8.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Harm that MS would incur if I dual-boot W8/W7 on an upgrade license:
None
Effect of MS prohibiting me from dual-booting on an upgrade license:
I don't buy W8
good job, guys!
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Isn't that true of all upgrades? I can't sell my Photoshop CS5 license when I upgrade to CS6. You're paying to update your software to the newest version, not to buy an additional copy of the software at a hefty discount because you're a returning customer.
Marty Chinn
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They're not preventing you from doing it despite what the license agreement says.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Imagine you're a company, and you're trying to push your new version of your application. Many of your customers are a little scared and have concerns about the new version, and so are not planning to buy it. To ease their fears, you correctly lower the barrier to entry by making the software cheap. However, because you prohibit them from concurrently using the old version (through licensing measures), your customers now need to choose between going whole-hog on the new version, or ignoring it--you've closed off the most reasonable avenue for people with concerns to ease them.
Whether that's how the game is played or not, it's not a good strategy. The best strategy would be to release an unambiguously good product that doesn't have your customers scared to upgrade. But absent that, the best strategy is to minimize the burden you place on customers.
Well, just as they haven't prevented anyone from pirating their OS through the years, I'd still prefer to be above board for a few reasons. First, because I'd prefer to be above board. Second, because I wouldn't want something to happen 6 months later where MSE stops updating or I can't install a service pack because I'm in violation of the license.
I thought I read that Microsoft is allowing people to 'downgrade' back to Windows 7 if they want to? If that's the case if you don't like Windows 8 you could easily downgrade back to what you had before.
Edit: Ah new PCs only. Sorry. http://www.computerworlduk.com/news...low-windows-8-downgrade-windows-7-even-vista/
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Developer preview
Consumer preview
Release preview
They've provided plenty of free opportunities for you to try out the new OS and see if it's something you want to purchase. You can even install and dual boot the release preview right now, it'll still work until January.
I understand the desire to have an old version of an OS to go back in case something doesn't work right but I've done that quite a few times now, XP & Vista, them Vista and Win7, now Win7 and Win8. The truth is that in practice I never really end up having to go back to the old OS. I just make sure I back up any settings/prefs/data I might need.
Jzero
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Dude I'm pretty sure it's always been the same before.
I don't get why people would pirate Windows. You are way more vulnerable to attacks that way.
you can still get updates with a pirated copy.....not that I would know..
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I have tried Windows 8.
I'm saying that when it comes out, I would like continue primarily using Windows 7 while at the same time being able to dual-boot Windows 8 to be able to try new technologies or new content. I don't think I'm an old man screaming at a cloud, considering my willingness to do this puts me ahead of most poweruser reactions to W8, and considering I'm talking about buying a launch day upgrade copy instead of waiting years and skating in on an OEM copy.
If you think I'm being unreasonable, fine, Microsoft evidently agrees based on the licensing terms as explained to me in this thread. Their loss, not mine--it's their software I won't be buying and their app store I won't be patronizing.
Sure. And I skipped Vista, and I wasn't worried about 7, and I got a new PC for XP and I wasn't worried about 2K and I wasn't worried about 98 and I lined up for a copy of 95 and I wasn't worried about 3.1--this is literally the only operating system I've ever been conflicted on. There are things I like about it. There are things I hate about it. I don't want to have a peeing match back and forth where I'm told my opinion is wrong.
I'm saying that as far as I'm concerned, my choice, for me, is to stay on 7 or to dual-boot. If I can't dual-boot because of licensing issues, I'm staying on 7, and so I don't have a choice at all.
brotkasten
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I don't get why you think it would be reasonable to keep both. Upgrades are basically trade-in programs. If you want to use it separately, pay for it. If you want to try it, do as Jagged said and get the 90-day-trial of the Enterprise edition. That should be more than enough time to see if you like it enough or not.
Microsoft should open licenses starting now.
I don't understand why they have to wait until the end of the month.
Just put a SSD upgrade for a Windows 7 machine. Could hardly tell the difference between SSD and traditional boot. On my machines running the Windows 8 previews, all the SSDs boot instantaneously.
I don't understand why they have to wait until the end of the month.
Just put a SSD upgrade for a Windows 7 machine. Could hardly tell the difference between SSD and traditional boot. On my machines running the Windows 8 previews, all the SSDs boot instantaneously.
So, reading this, it looks like the $40 upgrade will require an existing Windows license already installed. I can't install it on an empty drive? Anyone know the price of a non-upgrade license?
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I think there's something wrong with your Windows 7 installation. There's a definitive difference between booting off a platter and off a SSD.
Nope. Windows 7 eats up too much time with the logo and preboot stuff. Drive is correctly aligned.
The atom for the CR-48 boots instantaneously for the preview on an average SSD. I expect the AMD C-60 with a Crucial M4 to have similar results, especially when the Crucial M4 is miles better than the included stock SanDisk that's on the CR-48.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Oh dear, that sounds awful.
Nope. Fine for every day e-mail and YouTube viewing.
I still use Socket A AMDs (Athlon XPs) as well with one running as a backup server.
People really don't need that much computing power to do every day things.
Not upgrading then. My original plan was upgrading my OEM Win7 Home Premium to Win8 Pro, to then transfer license or "PUL" to my new PC build (erasing it from the previous) which I cannot do now due to the terms of the Win 7 OEM license, to then downgrade back to Win 7 Pro.
Oh well, I'll see how I can get a cheap Win7 license for the new PC.
Oh well, I'll see how I can get a cheap Win7 license for the new PC.
brotkasten
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Yes, that's the RTM. The final version of Windows 8.
Complex Shadow
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common don't say you don't have a choice =( you can always buy windows 8 when it comes out, or go in stores and try it out. whether windows 8 is worth full price or not is your choice, but they have given you options, studiotan already told you about the previews, they have an upgrade option to upgrade for 40$ and 15$ if you bought a PC recently. i am sorry the licensing issue is getting in the way of your "want" to dual boot, but from my standpoint they've done more than enough to push windows 8.
fake edit:
does anyone know if windows 8 is being sold at a loss with the upgrade prices?
whew I freaked out for a second. Backed up what I had, started up the windows disk and deleted/formated the ssd and hdd and when I selected the hdd to put windows on it said it couldnt detect a partition. Turns out the external I had on there was the problem. unplugged that and it went through. Excited to get this going. Now I just need a new card and maybe new ram to have fairly upgraded system.
Complex Shadow
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no disks, even for the 15$ upgrade thing? just all .iso? hmm sorry, didn't know that. thought there was an option.
Disc is $60.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Thanks. Another question. I opened this up in windows photo viewer and im getting and orange tinge. I tried another picture and its also orange. Any idea on this?
Complex Shadow
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kk thanks.
I've seen this before on an old monitor. I don't remember the cause, but it's google able.
This?
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...h-orange/e5d31c5e-ae84-4ebd-bbe9-9428f410560b
Sweet that fixed it! Thanks.
LukasTaves
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That reminds me of a question i keep forgetting of asking here: Is there any setting/tweak which makes Win+d and Win+m work only for the active monitor windows?
Jzero
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The easiest way to shut off your computer is by pressing the power button.
chickdigger802
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Fuck... got an interview with Microsoft tomorrow.
I probably shouldn't tell them that a reason why i'm applying is to get another copy of win 8 free :X
I probably shouldn't tell them that a reason why i'm applying is to get another copy of win 8 free :X
Jzero
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they give you a free copy for just getting an interview?
Why.. I'm sure they would be delighted to hear that someone actually wants Windows 8.
Complex Shadow
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chickdigger802
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funny enough, during the MS info session, they spend 10 min with a live demo of win 8 for some reason :S
They obviously didn't get the memo that everyone there were like CS majors that had Dreamspark premium :X
They obviously didn't get the memo that everyone there were like CS majors that had Dreamspark premium :X
Your interview has now been cancelled. Thanks for letting me know
Seriously though, congrats and good luck! If you get an offer you'll be enjoying benefits quite a bit more substantial than free copies of upgrades getting sold for $40.
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