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I got a new ThinkPad X230 yesterday and running the final Windows 8 has not been fun. It's my first experience with the OS so it's wacky, and a lot of the X230's functions just don't work yet. Really tempted to go back to 7.

Has Lenovo even released any drivers foe W8 yet? Because getting X220t (because I hate the chicklet nonsense in x230) and putting W8 on it is that I want to do for my next laptop.
 
I got a new ThinkPad X230 yesterday and running the final Windows 8 has not been fun. It's my first experience with the OS so it's wacky, and a lot of the X230's functions just don't work yet. Really tempted to go back to 7.
What are you referring to in terms of functions? Unless yore referring to Wacom tablet drivers, everything has been working on my X220..
 
The thumbprint reader (lol right) crashes hard, none of the external buttons work (screen rotation, etc), and half of the utilities released by IBM won't install.

There are no official drivers yet, but that isn't surprising.

The Metro side of things though is surprisingly smooth, though, I'll give it that.

Edit: Well wait I found the Windows 8 Beta page for Lenovos.
 
The thumbprint reader (lol right) crashes hard, none of the external buttons work (screen rotation, etc), and half of the utilities released by IBM won't install.

There are no official drivers yet, but that isn't surprising.

The Metro side of things though is surprisingly smooth, though, I'll give it that.

Edit: Well wait I found the Windows 8 Beta page for Lenovos.
I find the thinkvantage utilities aside from power manager and it's driver and the hot keys/OSD to not be worth it after a clean install, unless you need specific functions the stock windows equivalents can't accomplish. I have the non-tablet version without a fingerprint reader and those are probably going to need specific drivers. I think final ones will be available at the end of September if the ones on the beta site don't work properly.
 
Anywhere I can see all of the Metro backgrounds? Most of the ones that I have seen are pretty terrible.

Example.
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Anywhere I can see all of the Metro backgrounds? Most of the ones that I have seen are pretty terrible.

Example.

There are 19 different backgrounds + blank. And how good they look is completely up to the color theme you choose. For instance; the background you quoted there is not that bad in gray or light blue, but it’s still quite messy.
 
There are 19 different backgrounds + blank. And how good they look is completely up to the color theme you choose. For instance; the background you quoted there is not that bad in gray or light blue, but it’s still quite messy.
Agreed. I use the one that looks like crystals. I do think that most of the themes look pretty girly though.
 
So, is there a way to change the name displayed for my account in the start screen? Since it's a MS account, it's displaying my e-mail...
 
So, is there a way to change the name displayed for my account in the start screen? Since it's a MS account, it's displaying my e-mail...
Unfortunately i haven't been able to without messing with my Microsoft Account name and i don't want to change it there. Mine only displays my email in the user screen though and not in the start screen.
 
Quick question.

I would like to try W8 but I'm confused as to the best route to do it. I use my PC for my Ph.D. and don't want to fuck up the working environment. Would installing W8 make the HDD dual boot after which I can un-install W8 when the preview ends or I buy it and do a clean install since its not upgradable?
 
Quick question.

I would like to try W8 but I'm confused as to the best route to do it. I use my PC for my Ph.D. and don't want to fuck up the working environment. Would installing W8 make the HDD dual boot after which I can un-install W8 when the preview ends or I buy it and do a clean install since its not upgradable?
If you really don't want to accidentally fuck up anything then download the iso and try using it in a virtual machine. You can also dual boot but since Windows 8 uses UEFI it comes with some annoyances when dual booting.
 
I'm still running the RP and I'm having a weird problem since yesterday which I've never experienced before.

My sound occasionally becomes garbled and very loud. I've identified the problem as something odd happening to the sound control of the system. When the garbled sound happens, I turn the main system volume to 0 (volume keys on my keyboard), and I can still hear the sound coming out solely controlled by the media player's sound control. So it seems like my media player's sound control becomes independent of the main sound controls and with both of them producing sound at the same time, the sound becomes garbled. Once the garbled sound stops on its own, I have to turn up the main volume controls again to hear sound (normal behavior). However this only happens occasionally, like around once per every 10-20 minutes and for like half a minute.

I'm quite clueless as to what is causing it but it's very annoying because the garbled sound is like super loud compared to what I was listening at and it's like it can wake up the whole neighbourhood and destroy my speakers. So far it's happened to two different media players I'm using. Anyone have any ideas?
 
So this smart screen thing has been going on all of last week and I suspected it was bullshit when the conclusion was made that data was transmitted in an unsecure manner, ms didn't inform people and it was dificult to turn off.

All three accusations though untrue were run on a few news sites and blogs. ArsTechnica, in what seems like a retraction article, confirmed my suspicion with this:

http://arstechnica.com/information-...forest-for-the-trees/?comments=1#comments-bar

The only sad thing is that being Windows 8, it's always worth a good swipe and so they took it yet again... so now the store is a privacy risk (as pointed out in the article) like any other sore of its kind which is basically every platform out there. Who knew it took MS entering into this market on their OS to make this something necessary to contemplate. Keep it classy folks.
 
I hope someone releases Apple/Logitech Touchpad type device that is made for Windows 8 and supports all the gestures etc.

I think it's a great peripheral category, but i'm worried that it's been missed by PC device companies, since Logitech seems to be only one to have ever released such a product a couple of years ago and it did not seem to catch on :/ W8 with a better touchpad/multitouch handling could make these devices huge. After using Apple touchpad it is just a chore to use a mice for casual computing.
 
I hope someone releases Apple/Logitech Touchpad type device that is made for Windows 8 and supports all the gestures etc.

I think it's a great peripheral category, but i'm worried that it's been missed by PC device companies, since Logitech seems to be only one to have ever released such a product a couple of years ago and it did not seem to catch on :/ W8 with a better touchpad/multitouch handling could make these devices huge. After using Apple touchpad it is just a chore to use a mice for casual computing.

Don't worry, Vizio is on it!
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This OS kicks ass at home. I'm using it on my desktop that I do a ton of work on.

All of those metro apps that I don't use at work (in office) are so intuitive for personal use. Stuff like mail and calendar syncing with gmail is fucking awesome. If the calendar is fleshed out more I might use it as my planner. As it is you cannot schedule repeats custom, like every 2 weeks.

There's a ton of potential with stuff like cooking apps, which the free "fine cooking" seems to just be a metro photo viewer. Something interactive with built in search would be nice.

The fact that the UI works with mobile devices is a game changer. The gestures are already second nature to me.

Still not a good OS for enterprise though. Yet anyway because lots of programs don't work due to changes to permissions/security. I guess that's just a pain for a year or so until stuff is updated.

Only annoying consumer thing I've experienced so far is that you have run text editor programs as admin to edit system files. Notepad++ just says "are you sure someone's not editing the file?" when you attempt as non-superSecretSystemAdmin.

VPN remote desktop seems much faster.
 
There's a ton of potential with stuff like cooking apps, which the free "fine cooking" seems to just be a metro photo viewer. Something interactive with built in search would be nice.
there are a few cooking applications in the store, haven't tried them though. All the applications I have tried have used the search functions, so I would assume those are no different.
 
Hm, seems you're right. I just chose Fine Cooking because it's the highest rated...but it has 11 reviews. Makes sense, only MSDN subscribers that are curious are looking at this stuff.
 
Woah those monotone backgrounds are hot. The ones with many colors, not so much, obviously. Though I wish they had a subtle drop shadow option for the tiles, make them stand out against a busy wallpaper.

I'm disappointed that some of my favorite subtle backgrounds in RP were dropped for these busy backgrounds introduced in RTM.
 
I got a new ThinkPad X230 yesterday and running the final Windows 8 has not been fun. It's my first experience with the OS so it's wacky, and a lot of the X230's functions just don't work yet. Really tempted to go back to 7.
Lenovo won't be certified until GA (October). No real issue for me because we're not supporting Windows 8 as an available OS here at work yet.
 
I really am just counting the days till October 26th. My laptop sorely needs a fresh install of windows, and I want to transition everything that I can on my desktop to Windows 8 and then keep Windows 7 just for games that aren't compatible with Windows 8.
 
One click in the desktop:

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Okay. That is useful I suppose.


All that stuff is there in metro.... its just more logically organized now. For instance why would you need/want to view your pictures from a startmenu? It makes more logical sense to show those to you when you actually need them (when you open the photos app) or in the case of documents when you are in office or onenote mx. The file picker shows only when you actually need to use it. I find the people that don't like it are the ones that are not willing to rethink the way the pc should be used and are only interested in the using what they know (and that is very much a core principle of win8 and everything will be better from the foundation being laid here)... the multitasking goes into this as well and needing to close apps. Once you get used to win8 you just don't care because windows itself manages things for you.

And the two part thing is a necessary evil for this transition.... they could have done the apple thing and come out with a separate tablet os and desktop os but you would have seen something similar happen with them that has happened to apple. The ipad being held back by not having real productivity software and osx not having near the app store of ios. Win8 is very much about bridging those two and giving you a single device capable of running both which of course that will take new hardware to fully realize that vision. That is why now is the perfect time to start this transition.... with win7 being entrenched they can use the next few years to get hardware designed for gestures/touch into the market and get all those complex apps moved to a touch first model so they will fully utilize all the new hardware. It will probably be the next major version before all of that is fully in place but again that is why now is the perfect time to start this foundation.

It is not so much whether it is logical being there, it is more it being in one place and easy to get to.

The thing is, I don't think a touch screen is a better input device than a mouse and keyboard. If people like that thing, then that is fine, but they're basically forcing people to use it. There are ways around not using metro, but of course at some point you are going to have to use it. Finding ways around it kind of defeats the purpose of it being there.

I haven't used the OS, so it could be I might quite like it if I got used to it, but at this moment in time, I see no reason for it. I was looking at the apps for the thing and they're basically touch screen apps. They look really pretty and all, but one look at them and I realise that I would much prefer a normal desktop version, or go to the proper website. They're not really made with mouse as the main focus. I get this feeling with metro that you have less control and functionality than you would in a desktop environment. It kind of reminds me of 'windows media centre'. WMC looks nice as a front end, but limited in control and functionality. I never use it for that reason. I would much rather watch my media from the desktop where I have more control over what I am doing.

Of course metro has much more functionality than WMC does, but I do kind of get the same sense from it.
 
Am I alone when I think W8 tables are highly marketable?

Luckily for MS they have the opposite situation they have with Windows Phone. With Windows Phone the UI is very slick and looks great in videos but for most people it doesn't run all the apps they own from iOS and Android so it's tough to get people to switch.

With Windows 8 tablets you can show the same slick UI they have on their phones only Microsoft can say "You know all the programs you have on your home computer? Yeah, those can run on this". I think that will be huge.

Yes I realize that's not the case with the cheaper RT versions but just having Office on those will be huge.
 
Luckily for MS they have the opposite situation they have with Windows Phone. With Windows Phone the UI is very slick and looks great in videos but for most people it doesn't run all the apps they own from iOS and Android so it's tough to get people to switch.

With Windows 8 tablets you can show the same slick UI they have on their phones only Microsoft can say "You know all the programs you have on your home computer? Yeah, those can run on this". I think that will be huge.

Yes I realize that's not the case with the cheaper RT versions but just having Office on those will be huge.

You are absolutely right.

I think iOS is still burdened with the iTunes tethering. Even though an iPad is now mostly/completely stand alone, the stigma is still there.
 
I'm considering installing Microsoft Security Essentials on Windows 8 anyway so I can get the right-click menu options back. That way I can scan individual things without having to do a custom scan.

Not sure why they didn't include that function to begin with.

I don't think you can do that.

Challenge accepted.
 
I'm considering installing Microsoft Security Essentials on Windows 8 anyway so I can get the right-click menu options back. That way I can scan individual things without having to do a custom scan.

Not sure why they didn't include that function to begin with.
I don't think you can do that.
 
Okay. That is useful I suppose.




It is not so much whether it is logical being there, it is more it being in one place and easy to get to.

The thing is, I don't think a touch screen is a better input device than a mouse and keyboard. If people like that thing, then that is fine, but they're basically forcing people to use it. There are ways around not using metro, but of course at some point you are going to have to use it. Finding ways around it kind of defeats the purpose of it being there.

I haven't used the OS, so it could be I might quite like it if I got used to it, but at this moment in time, I see no reason for it. I was looking at the apps for the thing and they're basically touch screen apps. They look really pretty and all, but one look at them and I realise that I would much prefer a normal desktop version, or go to the proper website. They're not really made with mouse as the main focus. I get this feeling with metro that you have less control and functionality than you would in a desktop environment. It kind of reminds me of 'windows media centre'. WMC looks nice as a front end, but limited in control and functionality. I never use it for that reason. I would much rather watch my media from the desktop where I have more control over what I am doing.

Of course metro has much more functionality than WMC does, but I do kind of get the same sense from it.

That is because Win8 is not even out yet and a lot of the apps that are out now are "previews", but to give you an example of a well tought Metro app you should check OneNoteMX, I use it on my dektop all the time instead of the traditional program because is awesome and full of options and of course is good looking.
 
I'm considering installing Microsoft Security Essentials on Windows 8 anyway so I can get the right-click menu options back. That way I can scan individual things without having to do a custom scan.

Not sure why they didn't include that function to begin with.

It is installed by default, except it has been renamed Defender. Can you not right click a file in Explorer and scan it? I have not tried that.
 
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