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Windows 8 / RT |OT|

mAcOdIn

Member
If you are using Windows 8 on a desktop PC then I highly recommend using a specialized mode called "Desktop". Confusing I know, but after learning the gestures and shortcuts it should be just as good or better than Win 7.
I do use the desktop. Not a fan of shortcuts however, but I about have everything in a kind of working order.
Sorry to say but trying to read your post was more frustrating than W8 probably ever will be. And the quote up there is one of a few baffling statements, OE wasn't in W7 either, it's been replaced years ago by Windows Mail from the Essentials suite: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/essentials-other-programs
I find the first claim hard to believe but if so then I feel kinda empowered. Makes me feel a tad special if a single post somehow frustrates someone more than any change on an Operating System that's been largely unchanged for the modern era. Not many people get to make that claim!

As for the latter you are correct, I forgot that MS had removed it from 7, a curse from having used too many versions of Windows I guess. Metro's Mail client still pales in comparison to Live Mail as well however but I have to cede that point as it should work in windows 8 and is still offered as a free download.
Also log in with your MS account and disable the login screen, I posted the link somewhere above.
I did see that, I did not know it beforehand. I actually didn't spend much time researching that aspect as it was kind of a spur of the moment thing. Truth be told though I don't actually want a Microsoft account at all it's just unfortunately become mandatory more or less if you plan on using the Metro store. Wither way it's good information to know, thanks. I can at least not misrepresent that aspect to others in the future.
And do you know Win+X?
When I tried it it just brought up the charm but I did not think of using it in Metro, it does indeed do something I find helpful in Metro, saves me from having to right click and then choose "All Apps." I thank you for the tip but it's still not really what I want.

This is where I'll diverge from some people but one of the things that I personally liked about previous versions of Windows was that I felt it was giving me access to more things at a single click. I know many are fond of keyboard shortcuts and I see a value in having them, that said I don't think of them as replacements for easy access to features, I feel they should be merely an alternative to something that should already be accessible. Whether I use Win+x in Metro or right click and choose "all apps" either way I'm presented with an extra step that did not exist before, assuming we're starting from opening the start menu or having pressed the Windows key to bring it up. Considering I'm almost always using my left hand for something else like drinking or eating or pushing away one of my cats I'm not a fan of feeling like I need to resort to them to get the same speed of a task as the previous os.

That said, I may just stop bitching about that and make a shortcut to the control panel and drag that into my account's start menu folder and be done with it. I've said several times, it's possible to make Windows 8 do what you want it just still baffles me how little out of the box it does right.
yep.

three things people should remember when using a mouse with the new stuff.

  1. use the corners
  2. right click for more options
  3. application settings will always be in the settings charm (right bar)
You know, I could swear I tried that in Metro IE, I'm wondering if it just flaked out. I'm assuming that when it first launches you into Metro after the tutorial that it's actually still installing stuff, the screen did flicker a few times with the tell tell sound it makes when it's installing a driver, maybe I just picked a really bad time to try that?
My wifi speed has shot down a ton since installing, this would be most likely a driver issue right?
Most likely, if there's one thing positive I'd say about Win 8 it's that the performance is perceptibly the same. I had a problem similar with my WLAN card not performing well, it was a Dlink and the solution was to find out what chipset it used, which in my case was an Atheros chipset and find that driver. You might have to do the same and find out who really made your wireless card and get the driver from them.
why is media center separate now? whats different from win 7 one?
I don't know why it's seperate but there appears to be nothing new done to it from Windows 7. It's a desktop app too so it doesn't run in Metro.

My one hope for this situation is that it's MS trying to see how many people care about WMC really and perhaps if enough people purchase it they'll decide to do some meaningful work on it again. That's my hope.
 

f0lken

Member
The control panel was exactly 2 clicks away in Windows 7, and is exactly 2 clicks away in Windows 8 even if you are in a metro app, so I don't see the takes more steps" thing
 
update:

still getting this, the fuck?

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Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
try updating the applications one at a time.
Right, that's what I've been doing.
No it wasn't it was just one. I understand that's not a huge difference but still.
you can pin the control panel to the taskbar.
 

MrBig

Member
so yeah https://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/ does not verify anything. I told it I bought a pc in august, (I have not) and it gave me a promo code and then told me to download the upgrade tool. at the order confirmation page I put in the promo code and bought it for $15. Gave me a key via email and I am now in the process of downloading Windows 8 Pro.

edit: ^ lol @ above.

Yep, just did this with my PC that never even had W7, just the W8 RP on it. No issues, they just sent a promo code in an email and you enter it on the confirmation page of the Upgrade Assistant. RTM key was given on the next page.
I did build this PC in june though so it's within the description of "Buying a new PC after June 2nd" :)


Now I still need to sort out the ordeal I had last night with MS erroneously charging me $40 4 times :/
 

f0lken

Member
Right, that's what I've been doing.
No it wasn't it was just one. I understand that's not a huge difference but still.

Click in the start button--->click in the control panel icon. Those are two clicks, unless you pinned it to the taskbar which you can too in win 8
 

dejay

Banned
I ordered an SSD onto which I want to install just Windows 8 without first installing Windows 7. I'm hoping that, once it arrives, I can take advantage of the $40 upgrade offer and choose the SSD as a destination for the Windows 8 installation even though Windows 7 is on another drive.

I got a key when I used the download assistant to buy Win 8. It then gave the option of copying files to an ISO or USB drive. Simply boot up with either of these, enter the key and it gives you the option to install on any drive in your system like a regular install. I even formatted my drive first, so it certainly didn't see any windows there.
 

mAcOdIn

Member
Click in the start button--->click in the control panel icon. Those are two clicks, unless you pinned it to the taskbar which you can too in win 8
I said in my post that from the start menu having already been opened, which is the same as Metro being open, it was 1 click versus Metro's 2. That's entirely correct.
 
Disappointed to see Media Centre is exactly the same as Windows 7's Media Center. Nothings changed at all. I was hoping for a Metro look to the guide at least...
 

mAcOdIn

Member
Disappointed to see Media Centre is exactly the same as Windows 7's Media Center. Nothings changed at all. I was hoping for a Metro look to the guide at least...
They totally dropped the ball on that. I was shocked to see it wasn't even a Metro application, I really thought it'd be great in a live tile and that Metro may actually make a really good TV interface.
 

Exuro

Member
ugh pisses off how buggy the ms solitaire collection(among others) is. Doing a daily challenge of tri peaks, finish off each peak and then nothing happens. I have a blank board and my only option is to quit the challenge.
 

MrBig

Member
ugh pisses off how buggy the ms solitaire collection(among others) is. Doing a daily challenge of tri peaks, finish off each peak and then nothing happens. I have a blank board and my only option is to quit the challenge.

When I first installed the RP I downloaded Cut the Rope. When I tried to run it I got a BSOD on the main menu. That was a HTML game that made my system BSOD. I have not opened the store since and don't plan to.

That said, I do use the mail and calender apps quite a bit
 

longdi

Banned
Is it possible to disable the email login? I hated that on my smartphone and tablet...i mean all those tranny porns will have a chance it will come back at me. :(
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
Is it possible to disable the email login? I hated that on my smartphone and tablet...i mean all those tranny porns will have a chance it will come back at me. :(
you mean the Microsoft account login? yeah you can create a local account instead.
Downloading now.....anyone know how long it takes to install once it is downloaded?
depends on the pc, but probably about 15 minutes.
 

Troll

Banned
Downloading now.....anyone know how long it takes to install once it is downloaded?

It took my system 10 mins.

I will [try to] take matters into my own "hands" and if I fail then off toupgrade land I go. I wanted a fresh copy soooooo bad but this wait is killing me! Tomorrow is my 8th day and I'm at my limit.

Please do post if you do get something today. Thanks.

I definitely will. I just bit the bullet and upgraded for $14.99, meaning basically I'll have four codes coming that I won't really need.
 
I'm not sure. This is my 8th day and still no email.

I will [try to] take matters into my own "hands" and if I fail then off toupgrade land I go. I wanted a fresh copy soooooo bad but this wait is killing me! Tomorrow is my 8th day and I'm at my limit.

Please do post if you do get something today. Thanks.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Awesome! Got the $15 deal and am going to download it to a USB stick.

I hope this clean install business works once my SSD arrives.
 

Kaladin

Member
Also, if anyone uses Windows Media Center, does your settings carry over for that? I'm talking about series recordings and stuff like that.
 
Alright, my final, most important question of the day: how the hell do I shut down my PC?

old-person-computer.jpg


I feel sickened asking this question. I have failed.
 

mAcOdIn

Member
There's others too, you can click your account name and then sign out and then shut it off, you can press Control-Alt-Delete and there will be the power icon in the bottom right and if I recall corectly the lock screen also had an option to turn it off.
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
funny thing. if you search "turn off pc" in windows, it has a shortcut to that settings charm.
 

erpg

GAF parliamentarian
Refresh =/= System Restore, right? I can disable system restore and keep my initial/custom refresh point?
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
But you will need a real account to login first correct?
you can create a local account, should be at the bottom when they first ask if you have a Microsoft account during the installation process. (and just go to user accounts if you have already installed it)
 
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