Stephen_drewz
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I get this issue with the TuneIn radio app. Could I bother you to test what happens when you switch windows when playing music from the radio app? It's free.
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I get this issue with the TuneIn radio app. Could I bother you to test what happens when you switch windows when playing music from the radio app? It's free.
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Deleted member 17706
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Just got this installed on my new SSD and am enjoying the aesthetic. After the novelty quickly wore off, I'm starting to feel puzzled at the point of the start screen and Metro apps on a desktop environment, though. I was enjoying the Netflix app, for example, but then I suddenly wondered why the hell I would ever want to be stuck in full screen and I couldn't find an answer. Anyone able to list some great advantages of the start screen/Metro for desktop users that I may not be thinking of?
Also, is there any way to make it so the Windows key on my keyboard always toggle between Desktop and Start Screen? Right now it seems to only toggle between last opened app and Start Screen. Honestly, if I can't implement this functionality (one tap away from desktop), I may have to go back to Windows 7.
Also, is there any way to make it so the Windows key on my keyboard always toggle between Desktop and Start Screen? Right now it seems to only toggle between last opened app and Start Screen. Honestly, if I can't implement this functionality (one tap away from desktop), I may have to go back to Windows 7.
What happens when you have xbox music in the background and an ad starts up? Do you have to jump into the app and watch it or does it let you continue doing whatever? Really hate how I can't do things in desktop with the app on the side with games like minesweeper as it pauses the ads.
I use Win+D to go back to desktop.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Metro apps are designed to be fully immersive and full screen, aside from snapped mode. That's why menus are hidden and there is no chrome. They works best on content consumption devices like tablets. You may never want to use them on a desktop computer. Just use the Start screen as a launcher in that case. Where you see the versatility of the OS is when you use it on a hybrid device. I've used this example a lot but I have an EP121 tablet, when I plug in a mouse and use the bluetooth keyboard it's basically a laptop and I can use all my high end productivity programs, but then I unplug everything and pick it up and I can sit on the couch and play Wordament or browse the web and the full screen aesthetic of Metro apps are beautiful in that form factor.
So you may ask why you should even use Windows 8 on a desktop when you won't use the Metro apps but really there are many improvements to just the desktop side that make it worthwhile.
Anyone know if Halfbrick said anything about the poor performance of Jetpack Joyride (and probably Fruit Ninja but I'm not willing to pay for it again...) on Surface/WinRT? It runs like shit
Jzero
Member
How is that even possible.
Yeah, that seems bizarre. O_O
brianmcdoogle
Member
Where is the cheapest place to get an OEM version of Windows 8? (i.e., installing it on a computer that does not have Windows, so I can't use an upgrade version).
yn-neko hates a cat
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Could it be that strange "N" edition made for the EU? I never used it so it's only hear-say but I heard it doesn't install any browsers until you explicitly select one from a "fair" browser selection screen.
yn-neko hates a cat
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... *pop*
...has anyone downloaded a Codec Pack yet for Windows 8? Any good ones I can trust to not have malware and rootkits? You know... the bad stuff. Would really appreciate something clean that will let me watch my animu in peace.
...has anyone downloaded a Codec Pack yet for Windows 8? Any good ones I can trust to not have malware and rootkits? You know... the bad stuff. Would really appreciate something clean that will let me watch my animu in peace.
Anyone know if Halfbrick said anything about the poor performance of Jetpack Joyride (and probably Fruit Ninja but I'm not willing to pay for it again...) on Surface/WinRT? It runs like shit
Hydro Thunder runs like shit too when it was a smooth 60fps on a two year old
acer w500. Appears the gpu in the surface sucks. :-/
yeah that is probably it
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Isn't it a Tegra 3? Pretty sure I can play Jetpack Joyride on a Nexus 7 without that much slowdown... I can't believe it's anything other than poor programming/porting/whatever you want to call it. It's definitely disappointing though.
Does this work with the Video app in Metro?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Yes although the Video app doesn't seem to see certain files like mkv if you use the file picker but if I double click the file it'll play just fine in the App if it's set to use that.
EDIT: Maybe I'm wrong, I could have sworn I played some mkv files on my tablet in the app but I have it set to use WMP instead.
yn-neko hates a cat
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Thanks you
Metro Player doesn't seem to want to play at all and Media Player is being it's typical self when it comes to subs and audio tracks. I'll just have to settle into the loving arms of MPC if these guys keep treating a lady this way ;_;
yn-neko hates a cat
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Switching users terminates Metro apps
DO you mean you:
1) Login as UserA
2) Start App1
3) Switch user to UserB
4) Switch user back to UserA
5) App1 is no longer running?
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6) Profit
Edit:
You sure you didn't logout the first time around? :-/
It wasn't installed by default when I upgraded because back in the day on Windows 7 I had gone to "disable windows features" and uninstalled Internet Explorer because I only ever used Chrome. Then the Windows 8 upgrade carried that preference over.
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Deleted member 17706
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And, I'm back to Windows 7.
I really like the aesthetic of Windows 8, and there seem to be some really neat improvements to the desktop, but I just can't get over the start screen and Metro. It feels so completely unnecessary on a desktop, and the whole idea that the desktop is treated like an "app" feels kind of gross to me for some reason.
Here's hoping that Microsoft releases a start screen-less version of the OS or keeps us desktop users more in mind with their next release.
I really like the aesthetic of Windows 8, and there seem to be some really neat improvements to the desktop, but I just can't get over the start screen and Metro. It feels so completely unnecessary on a desktop, and the whole idea that the desktop is treated like an "app" feels kind of gross to me for some reason.
Here's hoping that Microsoft releases a start screen-less version of the OS or keeps us desktop users more in mind with their next release.
Emperor Bohe
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Jzero
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If they didn't think about the desktop users they would of scrapped the desktop. Also there are apps that let you bypass most of the metro side.
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Deleted member 17706
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That stuff looks really good. To be honest, the breaking point for me was when the right-hand charms bar got in the way of my clicking a scroll bar. I just said fuck it at that point and reformatted.
Removing all of those, as well as the start screen would make Windows 8 pretty cool for me, but I'm not a fan of Windows Blinds-like 3rd party apps really.
chickdigger802
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fuck.
emailed up asus and their response is just bullshit (install some drivers that I already mentioned errored out saying they don't support my trackpad!).
fuck.
Is it wrong to expect my 1 fucking year old ultrabook would be able to utilize windows 8?
emailed up asus and their response is just bullshit (install some drivers that I already mentioned errored out saying they don't support my trackpad!).
fuck.
Is it wrong to expect my 1 fucking year old ultrabook would be able to utilize windows 8?
yn-neko hates a cat
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I don't mean to sound patronizing but are you saying you went back to Windows 7 partly because your feelings were hurt?
What?
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Deleted member 17706
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No, but it was definitely a "feeling" thing. The OS just didn't feel right to me every time anything Metro popped up.
It's too bad, because I actually quite liked the desktop changes (although I missed the transparency of Aero).
Jzero
Member
It's the complete opposite for me, just the speed boost alone would of made me keep Windows 8. I feel bad for you wasting your money for nothing.
Well this has been a rollarcoaster. I first installed it and immediately rejected Windows 8 and uninstalled it. Upon reading what you guys have been saying I decided to give it another chance. Now that I finally figured out how to make tiles, I am a bit happier with it. Though I am pretty disgusted that MS has shat all their own BING stuff everywhere. I really really really really dislike it. I hope Chrome and Google earth work on integrating better with the OS.
Starbuck2907
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I would like to hear some personal experiences of gaming with Windows 8. I have no plans to install it as I do not like the interface. However, I am curious to hear about your experiences running games. If I hear good reports for a few months, perhaps I will change my mind. But for now, I'm very happy with Windows 7.
Anyway, Tom's Hardware did testing on Windows 8 and found the following:
Overall, they tested 10 games, but I'm going to mostly try to stick with the results that were more than 1 frame per second different:
Batman: Arkham City. About one frame advantage Windows 8.
Battlefield 3. About two frame advantage to Windows 8.
Borderlands 2. Five frame advantage Windows 7 using GTX 660. One frame advantage using Windows 8 with a Radeon 7850.
Crysis 2. Less than 1 frame difference regardless of video card. Windows 7 did better with Radeon, Windows 8 did better with GeForce.
Metro 2033. Both GeForce and Radeon performed better under Windows 7, by about 2 frames per second.
Sleeping Dogs. At high resolutions, it is unplayable in Windows 8.
World of Warcraft. About one frame faster on Windows 8.
Most other games had less than one frame per second difference between Win 7 and Win 8.
Overall, one frame per second is not enough for me to upgrade, especially when Sleeping Dogs, Metro 2033, and Borderlands 2 appear to have trouble on Windows 8. Maybe patches will work this out at some point. I'm not really a Windows 8 fan, but I was hoping that some of the performance gain rumors would be true. Sadly, they do not appear to be true.
Anyway, Tom's Hardware did testing on Windows 8 and found the following:
Tom's Hardware said:
Overall, they tested 10 games, but I'm going to mostly try to stick with the results that were more than 1 frame per second different:
Batman: Arkham City. About one frame advantage Windows 8.
Battlefield 3. About two frame advantage to Windows 8.
Borderlands 2. Five frame advantage Windows 7 using GTX 660. One frame advantage using Windows 8 with a Radeon 7850.
Crysis 2. Less than 1 frame difference regardless of video card. Windows 7 did better with Radeon, Windows 8 did better with GeForce.
Metro 2033. Both GeForce and Radeon performed better under Windows 7, by about 2 frames per second.
Sleeping Dogs. At high resolutions, it is unplayable in Windows 8.
World of Warcraft. About one frame faster on Windows 8.
Most other games had less than one frame per second difference between Win 7 and Win 8.
Overall, one frame per second is not enough for me to upgrade, especially when Sleeping Dogs, Metro 2033, and Borderlands 2 appear to have trouble on Windows 8. Maybe patches will work this out at some point. I'm not really a Windows 8 fan, but I was hoping that some of the performance gain rumors would be true. Sadly, they do not appear to be true.
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It was only $15, so I don't mind. Besides, it's not like my key is going away. If Microsoft comes out with some new updates, or if a permanent and elegant solution for Metro comes out from a 3rd party, I'd definitely be interested in installing again.
bloodforge
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The Sleeping Dogs issue must have been fixed already, I just loaded it up and it runs perfectly fine.
I did have a 3GB patch for it earlier when I started up Steam though.
I did have a 3GB patch for it earlier when I started up Steam though.
Jzero
Member
Nope, if you want a metro version you could use Xbox music for now. I'm pretty sure they'll release an official app soon though since Xbox music is their rival.
I'd like to know too, Xbox Music is kind of lacking in artists.
Also, anyone know where I can get more of those custom tiles? I need some for steam games like Super Meat Boy, Torchlight, Torchlight II, and AirMech. Also for a few Origin games but I can't really find a good comprehensive list anywhere.
Jzero
Member
What size are they supposed to be? i could help you out.
Just 30x30, thanks! I don't have Photoshop installed anymore because of the reformat lol
Jzero
Member
30 x 30 pixels? that's super small.
Or whatever it is OblyTile takes lol, I have no idea to be honest, lemme check some of the ones I've downloaded
Edit: 300 x 300 sounds and looks about right, sorry
I've put 128x128 and 256x256 png images in there, super smooth looking
Jzero
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Yeah I have a few mixed sizes, 300x300 being the largest and best looking. The smallest is like 150x150 and it looks like shit. I need to get PS back so I can start making some, I'll probably start a thread for them too. E: It probably looks like shit thanks to imgur compression.
Edit: Thanks! Using it now
Edit 2: Holy crap I love that Torchlight one!
Edit 3: Thanks Jzero!! Those are fantastic!
Stronghammer22
Member
I think there is an issue with it, in that the search on the main page doesn't seem to work properly. If you use the charm bar search, it reveals an absurd amount of music/artists. I just did a search for GAF's own Timberwolf and he is on there. Everyone else I have searched for I have found too.
Ima go install tonight, one last question.
I run the upgrade assistant, buy W8 pro, get the key, get the iso - and then I can make a bootable USB drive, run the install after a boot and don't neet to worry about anything? I read the key might not work etc if you make a "manual" clean install.
I run the upgrade assistant, buy W8 pro, get the key, get the iso - and then I can make a bootable USB drive, run the install after a boot and don't neet to worry about anything? I read the key might not work etc if you make a "manual" clean install.
You get 3 choices. Like this.
I picked Install by creating media. It will give you a choice to make a bootable USB after that.
I did a clean install by formating my drive but it said my W8 key could not be used to activate because it was for upgrades only. So I ran the setup that was on my W8 USB key from file explorer and did an upgrade this time. Upgrading over the top of my fresh install. After that finished I was able to activate Windows.
I think I had to do all that because I formated the drive. Here is a guide to Clean Install Windows 8 with upgrade media.
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/clean-install-windows-8-upgrade-media-144648
You get 3 choices. Like this.
I picked Install by creating media. It will give you a choice to make a bootable USB after that.
I did a clean install by formating my drive but it said my W8 key could not be used to activate because it was for upgrades only. So I ran the setup that was on my W8 USB key from file explorer and did an upgrade this time. Upgrading over the top of my fresh install. After that finished I was able to activate Windows.
Ah thanks. So does that mean I can never do a clean install with this method afterwards?
I think I had to do all that because I formated the drive. Here is a guide to Clean Install Windows 8 with upgrade media.
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/clean-install-windows-8-upgrade-media-144648
Follow that and your install will go much smoother than mine.