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Windows 8 / RT |OT|
- Thread starter Jzero
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The assistant didn't work for me so I just bought it directly from the web. Worked fine that way.
Ok, I figured out my breakdown with TreeSize Pro.
Out of 112GB on the Yoga....
- 20GB to windows (which I have backed up to a usb stick incase I ever want to dump this, but I wont for now).
- 14GB to program files
- 7GB in Lenovo drivers
- 7GB in hidden files (pagefile.sys and hiberfill.sys)
- 3.5 in RT apps
Leaving me 60GB open. Not bad since I'll pretty much just run RT games on it outside of Diablo III.
If anyone is considering the Yoga, you HAVE to dump the bloat like my friend did for me. Before that, I only had 25 or so GB left. Disgusting that it ships with 60GB available when you buy it, split between two drives.
Out of 112GB on the Yoga....
- 20GB to windows (which I have backed up to a usb stick incase I ever want to dump this, but I wont for now).
- 14GB to program files
- 7GB in Lenovo drivers
- 7GB in hidden files (pagefile.sys and hiberfill.sys)
- 3.5 in RT apps
Leaving me 60GB open. Not bad since I'll pretty much just run RT games on it outside of Diablo III.
If anyone is considering the Yoga, you HAVE to dump the bloat like my friend did for me. Before that, I only had 25 or so GB left. Disgusting that it ships with 60GB available when you buy it, split between two drives.
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It's not immediately obvious but check other information you entered like your address and make sure it's correct and matches the credit card you are using.
that is windows rt
windows 8 on my pc is only 9 gigs and its windows 8 pro. So I don't understand whats going on with his install that windows is 20 gigs
yn-neko hates a cat
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Isn't it Google's prerogative to make one? I'm sure there not burning the midnight oil on that.
yn-neko hates a cat
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It probably isn't Most programs don't bother handling WinSxS right so they end up reporting the Windows directly to be larger than it actually is.
yn-neko hates a cat
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I believe Alt + Print Screen will capture the active application window as well.
Metrotube will save us.
I thought the only keyboard shortcut to take screenshots was Windows Key + Print Screen. A folder appears under "Pictures" labeled as "Screenshots."
The old fashion way is to use snipping tool or just print screen and paste to Paint.
There doesn't seem to be a way on the site to download the upgrade other than using the Upgrade Assistant which has been horrible for me all day. I'm still stuck on that "Payment Info" screen where I have to put in my CC info. Tried multiple times throughout the day/night. Ugh Microsoft why do you do this shit to me.
That's one handy ute - damn thing's amazing.
maniac-kun
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Installing Windows 7 again this is worse then Windows Me!
I don't understand this at all, to me Windows 8 is just a more optimized 7, I spend 99% of my time on the desktop and barely ever use the start screen at all.
Maybe instead of posting crap like that you should actually say what you don't like about it?
Reposting for my benefit and others'. Some other useful guides on the Winbeta site-
http://www.winbeta.org/guides
http://www.winbeta.org/guides
Gorki247
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I wouldn't hold my breath for Google to deliver. YouTube+ and YouTube RT are currently the best third-party apps out there. Both are paid apps, although the YouTube + trial is the full app with minor ad-support.
maniac-kun
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Metro ui sucks. It dosnt feel like an Desktop OS. The desktop is kinda like Windows 7 but without a Start button but you have to go to the metro shit and switch between them. Its a mess. I stick to Windows 7 and enjoy a system that has more freedom.
Download one of the many applications which put the start menu back in and your problem is solved.
Regardless though, the start menu functions the same as it always has for me, just has a fancier interface now, treating it like a separate OS is stupid; hit Windows key, start typing what you want, hit enter and it opens, guess I just don't care as much *shrug*
As for freedom? idontevenknowwhatyou'retalkingaboutanymore
Everything you can do on 7 you can do on 8.
Do you have Steam and Xbox music running at the same time by chance?
I ran into this today when I Steam and had Xbox Music playing. It seems other people our running into it too... appears to be a bug. Restarting Steam while Xbox music is playing fixes it. But launching some games causes it to occur again.
Having Communications set to 'Do Nothing' in Sound Settings isn't fixing it for others reporting the problem either. Hopefully MS/Valve figure out what is causing it to occur.
PjotrStroganov
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Try moving your cursor to the lower left corner and click the right mouse button. It solved many of my problems with the metro ui.
Anton Sugar
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Windows 8 hates America.
snoopeasystreet
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Weird. Intel RAID tray icon sometimes doesn't show up. That's not comforting.
I may try disabling fast startup until SP1 because it seems drivers don't always play nice with it.
A more trivial thing is that starting up at day after "shutting down" at night, FLUX remains in night mode until I reach desktop.
I may try disabling fast startup until SP1 because it seems drivers don't always play nice with it.
A more trivial thing is that starting up at day after "shutting down" at night, FLUX remains in night mode until I reach desktop.
More freedom? Having the option to go to the Windows store in Windows 8 while maintaining all of the functionality of 7 plus being faster is less free? You don't have to go to the store. I almost never do.
chickdigger802
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Oh, the yoga is out? I remember being impressed with the CES coverage. How is it outside of bloat woes?
In CMD:
powercfg -h off
That disables hibernation, which deletes a really fucking large file that's typically around the side of your RAM. I'm not doing it though with all of the stuff they changed to shutdown that I don't understand yet.
Other than that avoid software that requires a bunch of different .NET versions with SxS DLLs.
More practically, get a bigger HDD.
This is seriously starting to annoy me now, interested to know if others have been running into the same issue.
When a process becomes unresponsive for whatever reason task manager will not allow me to end it - "access denied". I've googled all over and all I've found is using tasklist in cmd and forcekilling the process there, however even that doesn't work.
Literally the only way to get rid of the process is to fully reboot my system. I've tried multiple task processor tools, none can kill it. I've got VLC.exe sat there now unable to be killed, an hour ago I had Natural Selection 2's executible sit there hogging 1.2 gig of RAM after I closed the game, no way to kill it. Had to reboot.
I've also got Windows Defender turned off, with Action Center complaining about it. It also says Norton is turned off, when it isnt. Everything was fine and dandy for days but now I'm running into some serious issues with the OS...
When a process becomes unresponsive for whatever reason task manager will not allow me to end it - "access denied". I've googled all over and all I've found is using tasklist in cmd and forcekilling the process there, however even that doesn't work.
Literally the only way to get rid of the process is to fully reboot my system. I've tried multiple task processor tools, none can kill it. I've got VLC.exe sat there now unable to be killed, an hour ago I had Natural Selection 2's executible sit there hogging 1.2 gig of RAM after I closed the game, no way to kill it. Had to reboot.
I've also got Windows Defender turned off, with Action Center complaining about it. It also says Norton is turned off, when it isnt. Everything was fine and dandy for days but now I'm running into some serious issues with the OS...
Damn, guess I just wont worry about it then.
Next question: Xbox Music.
The pass is just for mobile/xbox, correct?
It was my understanding the PC verison was free streaming with ads. Why are some songs only 30 second previews? Sometimes within the same artist. Any shared playlists like Spotify?
Desktop is Windows 7 with lots of minor improvements in several different areas. It also performs a bit faster too. That is enough of a reason for me.
For HTPCs, metro with large DPI is so much better than the start menu.
I do use a few metro apps. Calendar has replaced my physical one because I don't have to manage dates, I can plan months/years ahead, and I get reminders. Though the reminders could be improved.
My guess is that something is messing up in the super secret real admin account. "Run Admin in Admin Approval Mode" makes you a 2nd class Admin, and disabling it unfortunately disables metro apps. This is my biggest criticism of Windows 8. Makes developing more tedious, but I haven't run across it at home.
I'm sure its coming. Google has apps on iOS despite Android being their main concern. I'm sure a Youtube app is coming. Hopefully a maps app as well.
It looks like they have the ability to mark songs as purchase only (won't work with free or paid pass) similar to how they can mark songs as album only (can only purchase if you purchase the whole album). Kind of annoying :/
That's what I'm also under the impression too. I did try enabling that but like you say once I saw it disabled metro apps I didn't even bother to see if it solved the issue or not. I don't want to pointlessly lose a large chunk of the OS' features just because I want the ability to do what I had no problem doing in 7.
I wonder if Windows 8 screws up programs privilege level if you install it with that policy disabled but then enable it.
You could try making the app that owns that process run as Admin for all users and keep the policy enabled.
I suppose people are undoubtedly finding it a little difficult to unlearn 17 years of operating MS WIndows. If you're looking at the Metro UI and are just completely lost in it, try to think of the enire UI as an expanded, blown-out Start button: it works as a launcher for your programs, but you're also able to throw up RSS feeds that provide updates right on the tile, you can pin Facebook contacts and have their statuses update on the tile. This live tile stuff is extremely versatile and I'm excited to see what developers will be able to do with it.
I think desktop users are having a harder go of it because a mouse isn't exactly the most intuitive input method for Win8 (I'm not saying it doesn't work, but even the most cursory use of the OS will tell you it's been designed for touch). MS doesn't look like its going to drop Metro anytime soon though, might as well suck it up and get the painful learning bit over and done with ASAP.
I think desktop users are having a harder go of it because a mouse isn't exactly the most intuitive input method for Win8 (I'm not saying it doesn't work, but even the most cursory use of the OS will tell you it's been designed for touch). MS doesn't look like its going to drop Metro anytime soon though, might as well suck it up and get the painful learning bit over and done with ASAP.