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brotkasten
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I know. Looks like 2009, right?dream said:That looks familiar.
Nah, that was just Laura Foy. No way she's as crazy as the Lizard.dream said:
giga said:
From what I gather, they are basically wrapped up background tasks that the OS can assign CPU time to based on different scenarios such as battery usage and such. They can also receive events from the OS for your program to handle. I believe one example was an event such as the phone being plugged into a charger.
They are modular tasks for your application to assign to a task queue of some sort most likely. So you want a file to download in the background or an alert to pop up at a certain time, you create a Live Agent and plop it on the queue. This type of standardization of tasks lets users have an easier way of seeing what tasks are running and which ones they want to stop/pause.
But I haven't read anything about them and I could be completely off base here. But it sounds interesting.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I want your impressions after you watch the keynote. Barcelona is old hat.giga said:
Looks like xbox live is due for a refresh....
http://www.wpcentral.com/xbox-live-hub-getting-revamped-mango
They really need to get multiplayer going for the xbl games.
http://www.wpcentral.com/xbox-live-hub-getting-revamped-mango
They really need to get multiplayer going for the xbl games.
Anton Sugar
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Is all this new information thread-worthy?
EDIT: Watching the Joe Belfiore vid where he shows off the apps. Liking the Marketplace enhancements, and the "Extras" in Search is AWESOME.
In case anyone hasn't seen, he demo'd doing a standard search for "movies", which brought up a list of movies showing near his location (a new feature) in the standard web search. He tapped into the list and picked "Source Code". This gave basic information on the movie and showtimes, but there is an "Extras" area he swiped to that pulls data from installed apps--in this case, IMDb. So he tapped IMDb and it took him straight to the Source Code IMDb page. Almost like an integrated Flixster.
While it might seem faster to go straight to the IMDb app, they seem to be stressing integrating the apps into the rest of the OS and not having them be so standalone. Almost like a search "hub".
And have they officially stated that the Live Tile limit will be lifted/increased? Can only imagine it would have to.
EDIT: Watching the Joe Belfiore vid where he shows off the apps. Liking the Marketplace enhancements, and the "Extras" in Search is AWESOME.
In case anyone hasn't seen, he demo'd doing a standard search for "movies", which brought up a list of movies showing near his location (a new feature) in the standard web search. He tapped into the list and picked "Source Code". This gave basic information on the movie and showtimes, but there is an "Extras" area he swiped to that pulls data from installed apps--in this case, IMDb. So he tapped IMDb and it took him straight to the Source Code IMDb page. Almost like an integrated Flixster.
While it might seem faster to go straight to the IMDb app, they seem to be stressing integrating the apps into the rest of the OS and not having them be so standalone. Almost like a search "hub".
And have they officially stated that the Live Tile limit will be lifted/increased? Can only imagine it would have to.
brotkasten
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No sockets, no real-time multiplayer. It's only turn-by-turn until we get Mango.snap0212 said:
I agree it will probably get ignored by many devs, but I think it would be pretty easy to make easily visible for users. Right now when you hold an an app you get the following as options:jagowar said:
pin to start
uninstall
They could easily list all of the things you can pin there. Something like:
pin app to start
pin barcode reader to start
uninstall
?
Damn ... shit just got real.Klocker said:
That Quantas app is a pretty realistic (and awesome) demo of how these new API's and dev features can really be utilized.
Between that and the 'extras' (apps communicating with each other) ... WP7 really seems like it can 1up the competing OS's in terms of speed, interactivity, and usefulness.
Anton Sugar
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Raistlin said:
Agreed. Mango will make iOS it's bitch...pending the iOS update, of course.
Sikamikanico
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Raistlin said:
It looked GOOD. Roll on Mango!
cartoon_soldier
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I want to see some new WP7 with mango phone announcements!!
brotkasten
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Way too soon for new phone announcements.cartoon_soldier said:
The stuff Joe showed off in that video is ridiculous. I really can't wait to see what developers come up with for all of the interoperability that seems to be opening up. I just hope and pray that Microsoft can get it out in good order and get another round of advertising to really show off what the system is capable of. Obviously the next rendition of iOS will probably be available by then, but I have a hard time thinking that it'll be as cool as this seems to me.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
So does Skype mean that the next hw reference chassis will support a front facing camera?
Vanillalite
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VanMardigan said:
1st thing that came to my mind as well in terms of new hardware. Beyond just made faster internals getting Skype made me think front facing camera.
Also I still think despite the full apology from MS it doesn't really well actually FIX anything. AT&T still hasn't pushed NoDo, and it's mid April. Considering it's still in the *Testing* phase I don't see how May won't hit before NoDo does. Quite frankly I see no reason this won't be the same case when Mango rolls around.
Definitely an iPhone person, but watching that video of some of the new features, I like some of the things they're doing. Part of me wants to say that I think they're doing a far better job with app switching (zoom out to a scrolling list of app screens) versus the iOS "row of apps" thing.
If anything, I hope stuff like this and advancements in Android make Apple put more effort into iOS. And I wish I was in a position to get stuff like Windows Phone phones for a while for doing reviews or whatnot, because I'd love to try one to see what I think without having to just jump into a contract and commit. (Plus, really, I'm not sure I'd want to actually switch platforms anyhow.)
If anything, I hope stuff like this and advancements in Android make Apple put more effort into iOS. And I wish I was in a position to get stuff like Windows Phone phones for a while for doing reviews or whatnot, because I'd love to try one to see what I think without having to just jump into a contract and commit. (Plus, really, I'm not sure I'd want to actually switch platforms anyhow.)
thirty said:
Keep in mind that all the stuff shown today was exclusively developer-focused, since MIX is a developer conference. Some of that stuff made available to developers is also cool for us, but even things like searching your app list using the jump list had a developer focus because of the ability to search applications.Klocker said:
Things like updates to Bing Maps, contact groups, etc. are exclusively consumer-focused, and won't be revealed until later if they're there at all (not sure when)
I did notice that Bing Maps looked quite a bit different in the few glimpses we saw in the videos from today though, I just couldn't tell what all the new icons would be used for.
Opus Angelorum
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The one thing that stands head and shoulders above iOS (and Android to a lesser degree) is having live information on the 'home' page.
It is very pedestrian to use an iPhone and have to jump in and out of static icons, so lifeless.
It is very pedestrian to use an iPhone and have to jump in and out of static icons, so lifeless.
Yeah, a bunch more languages:MCD said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/longzheng/5616197313/in/photostream
Not sure what they all are though
antiquegamer
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MCD said:
Yes, there are more language coming, it was part of the presentation.
16 more languages, he seems to imply a lot of Asian languages.
antiquegamer
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It's all very exciting to see of things to come but on the back of my mind the recent update and how it take to get here (for some it still is not) just make me temper my expectation. (probably a good thing).
I like the fact that he was honest about the update snafu and more up front about the process but I can sense his frustration and not able to speak for the carriers about what
testing they are doing. At least I got some sense that they are working to rectify this problem.
Also sometimes this fall is another thing that concern me. Apple would annonce things and have it out next week for consumers. Granted this is developer conferece and I was hoping he would say all the SDK will be available after conference but instead we get next month which I guess is better than "soon".
Overall I am impress about thing to come now let hope they can execute it and get it out in time to compete with the others. The OS they show is the OS that really should have been the launch OS last year. They really should have done limited launch of 7.0 and do full launch with next version. I think they can still salvage things with Nokia coming on board they can do a full re-launch this year with all new hardwares and feature complete OS that in some aspect even exceed what Apple and Android offer currently.
I like the fact that he was honest about the update snafu and more up front about the process but I can sense his frustration and not able to speak for the carriers about what
testing they are doing. At least I got some sense that they are working to rectify this problem.
Also sometimes this fall is another thing that concern me. Apple would annonce things and have it out next week for consumers. Granted this is developer conferece and I was hoping he would say all the SDK will be available after conference but instead we get next month which I guess is better than "soon".
Overall I am impress about thing to come now let hope they can execute it and get it out in time to compete with the others. The OS they show is the OS that really should have been the launch OS last year. They really should have done limited launch of 7.0 and do full launch with next version. I think they can still salvage things with Nokia coming on board they can do a full re-launch this year with all new hardwares and feature complete OS that in some aspect even exceed what Apple and Android offer currently.
brotkasten
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Some Nokia WP rumors.
http://live.visitmix.com/Keynotes
@eldarmurtazin
In one words - W7, W8 will be the first Nokia WP7 phonesW7 like HTC Mozart, W8 - N8 variant (chipset TBD)
It's on the MIX website.snap0212 said:
http://live.visitmix.com/Keynotes
antiquegamer
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Oh yeah, search for podcast directly from the phone is another new feature. Yeah, I didn't expect that. But he said US only. I don't understand why Podcast is restricted, is this because of contents that might be offensive in some country, copyright, license issue? Is this the same problem with iTune.
PG2G said:The rumors are saying Nokia plans to release 12 phones in 2012, haha. That's pretty crazy. I guess those of us that hopped on board at launch will have some interesting options when our contracts are up next year
Personally I think making a mass of phones is a bad idea.... they really should be making 2 or 3 hero phones (one high end hero phone, a low end one and one in the middle). I have to imagine part of that is the different cell network types around the world and not wanting to do universal phones.
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