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you win this roundbrotkasten said:My Optimus 7 says yes
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Just been reading through this
Tons of Mango issues being reported. Did some get a bad Mango?
Getting a few of these
My battery seems to be updating fine though on my Optimus 7 though. Hopefully MS or LG pushes an update soon enough to fix these gripes.
Tons of Mango issues being reported. Did some get a bad Mango?
Getting a few of these
- GPS not being able to lock
- Keyboard disappearing
- Tiles not updating
My battery seems to be updating fine though on my Optimus 7 though. Hopefully MS or LG pushes an update soon enough to fix these gripes.
What do you guys think about this dude's reasoning?
What Windows Phone Needs to do to Survive
In essence he throws the following suggestions out:
Promote the damn thing.
Give the damn things away.
Get your services in order.
Get your phones in order.
Unveil those new phones like a champ. Get people excited about Windows Phone! (and to add to this myself, release your phones right before your competitors for Van's sake)
It seems the immediate need for the platform, or rather the largest hurdle to jump now, is perception. Feature wise, I'd say there is very little of the LARGE features that are missing. Even apps when you slice it for most users, most are accounted for. So they're just dealing with the perception of a platform that is in last place, that's not selling well, that doesn't have as many apps, that's less powerful that the latest phones. To overcome those things, they better have their A game gearing up for some laser pointed promotions that detail how those negative perceptions are overcome, or are irrelevant. They need to get the phones into people's hands, using all the leverage they have. The guy's idea of giving away phones with Windows? Great idea. Do the student thing like they've done with XBOXs. I've sat and watched them muck up how to handle building hype, and promote their product with the Zune since the beginning. Zune was never meant to be a market leading device, but Windows Phone is clearly Zune's ultimate end game. They can't handle the promotion of Windows Phone like they did the Zune. Seriously, mimic Apple's methodology of building hype, and unveiling a product, and promoting the shit out of it. It works. And with how solid the OS is, on most any phone, once you change people's perception and get them in more hands, I think the snowball will roll enough to carve out a nice chuck of the marketplace.
Thoughts?
What Windows Phone Needs to do to Survive
In essence he throws the following suggestions out:
Promote the damn thing.
Give the damn things away.
Get your services in order.
Get your phones in order.
Unveil those new phones like a champ. Get people excited about Windows Phone! (and to add to this myself, release your phones right before your competitors for Van's sake)
It seems the immediate need for the platform, or rather the largest hurdle to jump now, is perception. Feature wise, I'd say there is very little of the LARGE features that are missing. Even apps when you slice it for most users, most are accounted for. So they're just dealing with the perception of a platform that is in last place, that's not selling well, that doesn't have as many apps, that's less powerful that the latest phones. To overcome those things, they better have their A game gearing up for some laser pointed promotions that detail how those negative perceptions are overcome, or are irrelevant. They need to get the phones into people's hands, using all the leverage they have. The guy's idea of giving away phones with Windows? Great idea. Do the student thing like they've done with XBOXs. I've sat and watched them muck up how to handle building hype, and promote their product with the Zune since the beginning. Zune was never meant to be a market leading device, but Windows Phone is clearly Zune's ultimate end game. They can't handle the promotion of Windows Phone like they did the Zune. Seriously, mimic Apple's methodology of building hype, and unveiling a product, and promoting the shit out of it. It works. And with how solid the OS is, on most any phone, once you change people's perception and get them in more hands, I think the snowball will roll enough to carve out a nice chuck of the marketplace.
Thoughts?
I feel like the lack of support for native code and OpenGL is killing the games market at the moment. No one wants to port their games to Windows Phone if it means they have to rewrite most of their code.
edit: Judging from the comments, the Omnia 7 isn't having any of the issues mentioned.
*pats Samsung on the back*
I've really had absolutely none of those issues at all on my Omnia 7. Am I just in the minority here?kharma45 said:
edit: Judging from the comments, the Omnia 7 isn't having any of the issues mentioned.
*pats Samsung on the back*
My Omnia 7 has had the disappearing keyboard rather often, I just have to press Back and then tap the text again. Switching between keyboards (I have five now, used to have four) seems slower than pre-Mango. The fifth keyboard is the Japanese 12-key.
My Omnia has crashed once since Mango, not a dealbreaker obviously.
My biggest gripe is how fs you have WiFi enabled, and you turn it off, 3G doesn't work until you reset the phone. The icon will be there, no 'no connection' messages will pop up, but nothing will load. Going in and out of Airplane mode will sometimes fix this, but restarting is often the only solution.
It sucks.
My Omnia has crashed once since Mango, not a dealbreaker obviously.
My biggest gripe is how fs you have WiFi enabled, and you turn it off, 3G doesn't work until you reset the phone. The icon will be there, no 'no connection' messages will pop up, but nothing will load. Going in and out of Airplane mode will sometimes fix this, but restarting is often the only solution.
It sucks.
Was creating a custom ringtone there now for myself on my phone and realised that there is no option for custom alert tones yet, hopefully that'll come too.
Also, Bing Audio, does it actually work for anyone?
Can't recognise a single song for me, whereas Shazam is almost flawless in comparison.
Also, Bing Audio, does it actually work for anyone?
Can't recognise a single song for me, whereas Shazam is almost flawless in comparison.
Ringtone lovers, try this new app:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/8fa87c3c-bb85-4359-aded-190dffb8fb51
Already got my Guile theme covered and oh, the preview sound is usually low so don't worry, it sounds fine when you download ringtones.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/8fa87c3c-bb85-4359-aded-190dffb8fb51
Already got my Guile theme covered and oh, the preview sound is usually low so don't worry, it sounds fine when you download ringtones.
kharma45 said:
Mine works almost flawlessly.... by far the fastest and most accurate audio recognition app/service I have tried.
Also saw this today (and didnt see it posted here yet).... finally some real console/phone integration is coming from xbox/wp7..... http://wmpoweruser.com/hooray-wp7-h...ll-offer-real-time-maps-for-xbox-360-players/
They really need to start doing this kind of thing for ALL their ms developed games....
jagowar said:
And now that I start bitching about it Bing Audio not working it's started to work, although it's taking around 10 seconds to get songs.
Still it's an improvement at least, I'll bitch some more and maybe like GPS (which still has it's moments) and Xbox Live it might work properly.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Firestorm said:
Bing Audio worked fine for me and recognized Great Big Sea so it even has Canadian music on it. I had written some notes on what I tried to get it to identify and I think the success rate was about 90% from what I played, about the same as Shazam.
Speedymanic
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MCD said:
Where does it download the ringtones to? I downloaded a classical one but it's not showing up anywhere and the app has a nasty habit of opening IE and loading a rather annoying L'oreal ad.
Think I'll uninstall it, I don't trust apps that automatically open IE.
Wads said:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ound-the-world-language-support-in-mango.aspx
There should be
Damon Bennet
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bing audio is surpsingly good. it even recognized lesser known german, french or irish musicians
Speedymanic
Banned
MCD said:
Yeah, that's where I figured it would be but it wasn't. I'll give it another try, maybe I messed up and accidentally hit the wrong ad when I shouldn't have or stopped the download.
Thanks for the tip though, it's a great app...I just hope I can get it working properly.
Wads said:
as with most things it's there in Mango.
here's the info I think you're looking for
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh202918(v=vs.92).aspx
Damon Bennet
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Which is itDoffen said:
Complex Shadow
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whats the date again? also can't wait, i am so pump'dclaviertekky said:
brotkasten
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October 26.Complex Shadow said:
Don't expect too much.
Complex Shadow
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i am expecting at least one phone that looks good. common nokia do this for meh!brotkasten said:
brotkasten
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We know how it looks like.Complex Shadow said:
brotkasten
Member
Like polycarbonate and glass.venne said:
Because 2012 is the year of Nokia and Microsoft. This year is just a teaser. They won't even be able to ship the phone in volumes this year.SeanR1221 said:
One device for 2011, that's what they said, iirc. Phones for the US are still questionable.Korey said:
e:
"However, according to Reuters, Elop hinted that the company will release Windows Phone "products" in the fourth quarter, an indication that there may be more than one device coming."
I still doubt the mass availability for more than one phone this quarter.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Korey said:
but..but...different internals!!!! Lol, this wait for mango phones has gone from pathetic to farcical. HTC launched the Titan in EU where nobody even cares about it. We don't have anyone in this thread with a Titan, whereas if this thing had been launched on AT&T already, I guarantee you we'd have some Titan owners in this thread.
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