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Complex Shadow said:
how do you not have the update yet. also why don't you force it?

also does anyone have a rough timeline of when the future windows phone updates and windows phone 8 will be released?
Update for the 1.4 Focus isn't out yet, can't force it.
 
thirty said:
so 11/06 is right around the corner. who's got their pennies saved for a Titan, Focus Flash, or Focus S?

In for two Titans, one for myself and one for my fiancee. Hopefully they pull through with that BOGO offer so that I can save $200, or use both our upgrades and sell two Titans on ebay.

Can't wait to get rid of my 3gs, and I won't even say what piece of shit phone she has.
 
Lanbeast said:
In for two Titans, one for myself and one for my fiancee. Hopefully they pull through with that BOGO offer so that I can save $200, or use both our upgrades and sell two Titans on ebay.

Can't wait to get rid of my 3gs, and I won't even say what piece of shit phone she has.

I can't decide between the Titan and the Focus S. I had my heart set on the Focus S but after playing with some Samsung Galaxy phones, I can't stand how cheap they feel. The only thing keeping me from jumping onto the Titan bandwagon is the screen size/resolution. Whats the point of a giant screen if I can't fit any more information onto it. Reviews said the the UI looks comical with evertyhing giant size because of the poor resolution.
 
Complex Shadow said:
how do you not have the update yet. also why don't you force it?

also does anyone have a rough timeline of when the future windows phone updates and windows phone 8 will be released?

Tango Q1 2012
Apollo H2 2012
 
Well after being unimpressed with the lumia 800 (its pretty but only comparable to the 1st gen of wp7 phones) my Titan arrived today to reduce my HD7 to a zune player :)
 
frontieruk said:
Well after being unimpressed with the lumia 800 (its pretty but only comparable to the 1st gen of wp7 phones) my Titan arrived today to reduce my HD7 to a zune player :)

impressions please especially about the screen and camera
 
Tapiozona said:
I can't decide between the Titan and the Focus S. I had my heart set on the Focus S but after playing with some Samsung Galaxy phones, I can't stand how cheap they feel. The only thing keeping me from jumping onto the Titan bandwagon is the screen size/resolution. Whats the point of a giant screen if I can't fit any more information onto it. Reviews said the the UI looks comical with evertyhing giant size because of the poor resolution.

Really? I read a lot of views saying that the screen still looked pretty crisp. It would be nice if they would allow for a higher resolution, but I'm getting it moreso for browsing the web/netflix. I work for the govt and have a lot of downtime, but our internet is blocked just about everywhere, so having that big screen will be great for me.

My fiancee still wants to check out the Focus S. I'm a pretty big 6'3" so the Titan sounds like it would feel at home in my hands, but she's 5'3" ish with tiny hands, so we'll have to see how one feels in her hands. She has a Samsung phone now though, and is really worried about quality because hers is awful.

Tomcat said:
impressions please especially about the screen and camera

x2!
 
Will take both phones on my rehab walk later and get pics outside in uk conditions :)

The screen is a lot richer in colour though I think the blacks aren't as deep, the viewing angle is improved with the purple theme no longer going magenta at certain angles. There is still a small ghosting effect when moving the home screen quickly but not as noticeable.

It also seems more responsive, but that could be me justifying a new toy ;)

Any questions just ask.
 
frontieruk said:
Will take both phones on my rehab walk later and get pics outside in uk conditions :)

The screen is a lot richer in colour though I think the blacks aren't as deep, the viewing angle is improved with the purple theme no longer going magenta at certain angles. There is still a small ghosting effect when moving the home screen quickly but not as noticeable.

It also seems more responsive, but that could be me justifying a new toy ;)

Any questions just ask.

How quickly does the camera load up? Does the browser scale well to that size screen?
 
The Verge reviewed the Lumia 800.

Wrap-up

Windows Phone provides a modern and attractive UI and the Lumia 800's hardware maintains Nokia's reputation for high build quality

The Lumia 800 is exactly what it looked like when it was first announced at Nokia World: it is an N9 running Windows Phone. Ironically, in moving from the wildly imaginative Harmattan to the more straight-laced Windows Phone OS, this smartphone has undergone the reverse of the transition Stephen Elop wants to see Nokia make. He wants the company to stop being known for unexciting reliability and to start inspiring greater emotional attachment in its users. The N9 was that irrationally loved device, and no matter how hard the Lumia 800 tries, it simply isn't as thrilling. For anyone still stuck on one of Nokia's Symbian devices, the 800 is an obvious upgrade. It lacks the N8's superb camera, but otherwise it easily trumps anything and everything in the company's recent portfolio. Windows Phone provides a modern and attractive user interface and the Lumia 800's hardware maintains Nokia's reputation for attention to detail and insistence on high build quality. The picture is less clear for those considering alternative Windows Phones, as the Lumia 800 actually falls behind by not including a front-facing camera or mobile hotspot capabilities. Choosing your favorite there will depend on how much you love the Lumia 800's sterling physical design and how much faith you place in Nokia's ability to execute on its ambitious plans for software differentiation. The Lumia 800 has the potential to be great, but today it's merely good.

7.8 Verge Score

Good Stuff

Excellent design
Attractive display
Brightest future of any recent Nokia flagship phone

Bad Stuff

No Internet Sharing
Fiddly volume rocker and lock key

http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2534861/nokia-lumia-800-review

The phone will get internet sharing with a firmware update.
 
Lanbeast said:
How quickly does the camera load up? Does the browser scale well to that size screen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3VtJn0Zu8 as sorry about the state of my room, was going to tidy it before I did my back in, it'll have to wait now :(

Any way as you can see I operate the camera with my ring finger which you couldn't do with the hd7, hopefully this gives you an idea of the boot time.

The browser does OK, I think they use ClearType fonts as it remains smooth, here's some text zoomed to the max.
VaQau.jpg
 
Lanbeast said:
Doesn't look bad at all! Thanks for posting that.

sorry it's a bit shakey, i still have some weakness in my right hand, and as you probaby know the HD7 is a bitch to use the camera on anyway
 
brotkasten said:
The Verge reviewed the Lumia 800.



http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2534861/nokia-lumia-800-review

The phone will get internet sharing with a firmware update.

typical crap review from apple fans
and i am sure if nokia hadnt abondened meego it wouldnt be praised so much from these guys

http://i.imgur.com/12XpR.jpg

same device different different score on design? wtf


Lumia 800 battery life:
“Up to 13 hours talk time
Up to 7 hours video”

N9 battery life:
“Up to 11 hours talk time
Up to 4.5 hours video”

and n9 gets better score on battery life
 
Tomcat said:
typical crap review from apple fans
and i am sure if nokia hadnt abondened meego it wouldnt be praised so much from these guys

http://i.imgur.com/12XpR.jpg

same device different different score on design? wtf


Lumia 800 battery life:
“Up to 13 hours talk time
Up to 7 hours video”

N9 battery life:
“Up to 11 hours talk time
Up to 4.5 hours video”

and n9 gets better score on battery life
design got better score as well. fucking shake my head.
 
Tomcat said:
typical crap review from apple fans
and i am sure if nokia hadnt abondened meego it wouldnt be praised so much from these guys

http://i.imgur.com/12XpR.jpg

same device different different score on design? wtf


Lumia 800 battery life:
“Up to 13 hours talk time
Up to 7 hours video”

N9 battery life:
“Up to 11 hours talk time
Up to 4.5 hours video”

and n9 gets better score on battery life

The reviewer is biased towards the N9, so this isn't a surprise.
 
sorry no photo's tonight, HTC connection failed to setup the o2 apn and I was more concerned that data wasn't working after a bad ariel in a HTC Hero, than pics, will do some up the garden tomorrow weather permitting
 
So I discovered that sliding out the Dell Venue pro keyboard can be an action in some apps. In the People app, on the contact list view, sliding out the keyboard will immediately load the search form box. In the Messages app, on a conversation screen, sliding out the keyboard will load up the reply form box. IS there a list of all the shortcuts?
 
So I decided this BIG secret they're teasing in NYC is going to big a huge ad, that also happens to be a massively huge mock up of a Windows Phone that people can play with.
 
thirty said:
so 11/06 is right around the corner. who's got their pennies saved for a Titan, Focus Flash, or Focus S?

my renewal is Dec 15th so I'll have a pretty good idea by then where the dog sleeps :D

it's either S or Titan ...Titan if I can manipulate it with one hand. S if not, But looking at the specs the Titan screen takes up more space of the phone than a Samsung so the physical dimensions between Focus, Focus S and Titan are around a total of .26" in each direction IIRC


Focus s and Flash to allow internet sharing
 
Klocker said:
my renewal is Dec 15th so I'll have a pretty good idea by then where the dog sleeps :D

it's either S or Titan ...Titan if I can manipulate it with one hand. S if not, But looking at the specs the Titan screen takes up more space of the phone than a Samsung so the physical dimensions between Focus, Focus S and Titan are around a total of .26" in each direction IIRC


Focus s and Flash to allow internet sharing

Between the Focus S and the Titan for me as well. I think I'm leaning towards the Titan, but I'd like to see and feel them both my hands before I decide.
 
Tomcat said:
typical crap review from apple fans
and i am sure if nokia hadnt abondened meego it wouldnt be praised so much from these guys

http://i.imgur.com/12XpR.jpg

same device different different score on design? wtf


Lumia 800 battery life:
“Up to 13 hours talk time
Up to 7 hours video”

N9 battery life:
“Up to 11 hours talk time
Up to 4.5 hours video”

and n9 gets better score on battery life


What I find funny is the ecosystem on N9 is rated a whopping "3" and on WP7 OS it's double that a "6" (which I think is too low, I think WP7 eco is about a 7 or 8 if Apple is a 10 but whatever). Anyway final score for 800 is less than N9. While the lack of Front camera and lost of NFC and storage is a big, ecosystem is probably one of the most important reason to get smartphone, otherwise you could just get by with feature phone if you don't care for apps and such.
 
Korey said:
So it seems like the Lumia 800 is nothing special? From what I read even the camera's not that great.
Just read the Engadget review, and it sounds like they've stripped back on hardware features from the N9.

I've only just started looking into getting a WP7 phone. I'm an iPhone 4 user but will be moving overseas next year and want something new. Even though I love all my iOS5 gadgets, I like what I've seen from WP7 and would sooner go with that than Android.

Hardware-wise, what is the best WP7 currently available or to be released by January next year?
 
Complex Shadow said:
Didn't nokia already tell us this a while ago.
I don't know, but I do know that I don't want a phone that'll be worse than a phone that came out over a year ago by the time it comes out in the US
 
another day, another superphone announced. dual core, 1gb ram, LTE, it's all becoming the norm. will apollo be too late?

hopefully consumers get a chance to compare these phones for themselves and see that windows phones function smoother than anything android phones has to offer, even with their bloated specs.
 
Complex Shadow said:
yes. it wasn't even a question.
I disagree. Both of my in-laws and coworker that end up with Android phones are both complaining about battery life. one resort to shutting everything down while another got a giant bulky battery. Another one end up
just using the phone for texting and Facebook. I just laugh.
 
antiquegamer said:
I disagree. Both of my in-laws and coworker that end up with Android phones are both complaining about battery life. one resort to shutting everything down while another got a giant bulky battery. Another one end up
just using the phone for texting and Facebook. I just laugh.
At the end of it all. Theyl prob end up at iPhone if the whole droid thing doesn't work out.
 
Complex Shadow said:
At the end of it all. Theyl prob end up at iPhone if the whole droid thing doesn't work out.

Well, all I know they probably won't go Android when their contract come back up. Well one didn't want iPhone for sure because she just doesn't want to be sheep (or more like don't want to use whatever her husband is using). She was going to go Windows Phone 7 but fine folks at At&T convince her to get Android. (How is that premier carrier and friendliest OS to carrier working out for you Microsoft?) The other two are on Verizons so their Win Phone 7 choice is limited again both were steer away from iPhone to Android by the saleperson. I am sure they both regret not getting iPhone.

Android is great if you are tech savvy or at least tech-competent which these two are definitely not. One had to ask me how to get her Android sync to her computer not knowing that there is a gazillion option on the sync menu.

Anyway, Microsoft have opportunities to gain more customers because there are plenty of people like them that don't want iPhone and Android is just too much tinkering. But people that are not keeping up with the tech will buy phone that saleperson recommended to them and that's the end of it. If they don't improve that end, WP7 will not go anywhere. Even when I was in At&t store the other day getting an accessories for my Focus, the manager try to convince me to get iPhone 4S. : /
 
thirty said:
another day, another superphone announced. dual core, 1gb ram, LTE, it's all becoming the norm. will apollo be too late?

hopefully consumers get a chance to compare these phones for themselves and see that windows phones function smoother than anything android phones has to offer, even with their bloated specs.

They will.

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Seems like there's no way to get a blue N800 :( all the preorders are black only, unless Vodafones blue stock sold out in the 90 minutes before I checked the site.

Guess I'll be waiting.
 
FFS, Engadget is calling out MS for releasing a Bing app for iOS and Adroid and skipping over WP7...

Why not point out how it's already integrated.
 
Ghost said:
Seems like there's no way to get a blue N800 :( all the preorders are black only, unless Vodafones blue stock sold out in the 90 minutes before I checked the site.

Guess I'll be waiting.
Other colors are coming later this month.
 
SeanR1221 said:
I wonder if that was edited in or if it was my mistake for reading news at 6:30 in the morning :-x

I think they edited that part in, because I am pretty sure it wasn't mention when I read it earlier. Either that or I am very sleepy also ...
 
antiquegamer said:
I think they edited that part in, because I am pretty sure it wasn't mention when I read it earlier. Either that or I am very sleepy also ...
I'm pretty sure they edited that. I read the article earlier, but I didn't bother to complain about that, because, y'know, it's Engadget.
 
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