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Brettison said:
Are you signed into Windows Live in Zune, and did you complete the registration stuff when you 1st turn on your phone?!?!

Also is your phone on? It needs to be on to sync.
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Yep, signed in and the phone is on. They did a lot of the setup work at the store so maybe something was missed? My Zune account doesn't have any devices registered to it.
 
I swear I just plugged mine in after I had done the shit the phone said after I had zune open and was logged in there. Then it just IDK worked and asked me a few questions. :lol
 
Brettison said:
I swear I just plugged mine in after I had done the shit the phone said after I had zune open and was logged in there. Then it just IDK worked and asked me a few questions. :lol
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See mine doesn't even prompt me to do anything when I plug it in. Wonder if Windows found the wrong drivers for it or something. Oh well I'll play with it more tomorrow.
 
Anno said:
See mine doesn't even prompt me to do anything when I plug it in. Wonder if Windows found the wrong drivers for it or something. Oh well I'll play with it more tomorrow.
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It should have come with instructions... did you read through?

Also there is a windows phone support feed on twitter if need be...
 
Anno said:
See mine doesn't even prompt me to do anything when I plug it in. Wonder if Windows found the wrong drivers for it or something. Oh well I'll play with it more tomorrow.
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Does your phone have a lock code on it?

If so, you'll need to unlock it before it'll show up in Zune.
 
killertofu said:
Apparently the 16gb was online for a moment... for 149 too? I can wait.
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If this is real ... I'm shocked (and elated).

$500 for the 16GB? Noice.

$150 on contract though seems crazy low.
 
I'm such an idiot.

I've always thought it was odd that there was no search function for the marketplace.

Just now I accidentally pressed the hardware search button.. and there it is.
 
Side Note: Wow I didn't realize CES was so fuck'n early this year. Like fuck we barely get into January and boom CES. For some reason I thought it was at the end of the month.

If it's indeed true MS is trying to get their update out preCES or during CES that means not a long wait! w00t!!! :D

Raistlin said:
If this is real ... I'm shocked (and elated).

$500 for the 16GB? Noice.

$150 on contract though seems crazy low.
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$150 does seem crazy low. Seems like $200 just is the normal going price for a smart phone that's not trying to be entry level or isn't onsale.
 
I've not followed this at all until now. I just listened to the Tested podcast and they were going nuts over this, and now I want it badly. Verizon needs to get their shit together. I want this.
 
Fantastical said:
I've not followed this at all until now. I just listened to the Tested podcast and they were going nuts over this, and now I want it badly. Verizon needs to get their shit together. I want this.
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EDIT: OH shit this weeks Tested has Gary on this shit! :lol :lol

You should read my review!

My Review on Neogaf!

I even stole some of brotkasten's info from this OT.
 
That list of the supposed updates in January says that we currently can't use zune pass on the phones but I've been downloading songs via zune pass constantly. Not sure what thats all about. Does he mean smartdj? Because I do miss being able to create a smartdj playlist like I could with the ZuneHD.
 
Nobby said:
That list of the supposed updates in January says that we currently can't use zune pass on the phones but I've been downloading songs via zune pass constantly. Not sure what thats all about. Does he mean smartdj? Because I do miss being able to create a smartdj playlist like I could with the ZuneHD.
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IIRC, in that forum thread there was confusion about downloading songs and whether or not you could do that. You can, but you need to long-press I believe. The MS Employee did say he thought that was in there though, to his credit (which it is).
 
Anybody else have a problem with the market app not opening? Anytime I go deep into a section of apps or I download a lot of songs or apps the app auto closes or even if I close it myself and then try to re-open the app it refuses to open. It goes to a loading screen and looks like its trying to load for about 15-20 seconds then just quits back to the phone home screen.
 
Nobby said:
Anybody else have a problem with the market app not opening? Anytime I go deep into a section of apps or I download a lot of songs or apps the app auto closes or even if I close it myself and then try to re-open the app it refuses to open. It goes to a loading screen and looks like its trying to load for about 15-20 seconds then just quits back to the phone home screen.
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I've heard about this issue. I believe it requires a phone restart.
 
Thanks for the reply, restarting the phone fixes it but I've already had to restart it 4 times today due to this issue. Atleast I know now that other people have the issue and hopefully it gets fixed soon.
 
Man that Omnia is a sexy phone...

Meanwhile my syncing problems continue =/ Does everyone else's phone show up as recognized by Window's as a "Window's Phone USB"? I'm running out of ideas as to what it could be.
 
Darkener2 said:
my pc shows up as HTC HD7... but maybe cuz I have the zune software on my pc.
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Same here, that's the problem I'm having. For whatever reason it's just not picking up my phone. Maybe it's something with the phone itself? Guess I'll try calling into support later.
 
Anno said:
Same here, that's the problem I'm having. For whatever reason it's just not picking up my phone. Maybe it's something with the phone itself? Guess I'll try calling into support later.
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May seem like a long shot, but try running Windows Update.
 
Anno said:
Same here, that's the problem I'm having. For whatever reason it's just not picking up my phone. Maybe it's something with the phone itself? Guess I'll try calling into support later.
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I'd just exchange it.
 
Anno said:
Man that Omnia is a sexy phone...

Meanwhile my syncing problems continue =/ Does everyone else's phone show up as recognized by Window's as a "Window's Phone USB"? I'm running out of ideas as to what it could be.
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When you first plug it in it should ask you to name your phone. I think that's just the stock title.
 
It doesn't look like they are new officially branded cards, probably just pre-existing ones that have been certified
 
Alhamdurilla....

after that long LONG wait my phone finally came! Eid mubarak to me! Im busy today but tonight I'll get to play around with it properly :)
 
I've been slowly reading through reviews/walkthroughs of the OS, and have found one somewhat universal complaint. The dual-use of the back button for backing up within an application as well as backing up out of applications works in some situations ... but is pretty frustrating in others.

For example, here's some relevant text from the Ars review.
The back button is the oddball. Conceptually, it's simple enough; it goes back. But the meaning of "back" varies. In Internet Explorer, it works like a browser back button. In most applications it backs out a level; for example, if I'm viewing a specific contact in the People hub, pressing back once will take me back to the list of all my contacts. Pressing back from the top level of an application will take you out of the application entirely, and back to the home screen, e-mail, or hub, that you were in when you launched the application.

This leads to some subtleties. Start at the home screen and then run an application. Pressing either back or Start will take you back to the home screen, but with a difference. If you pressed Start from within the application, pressing back will take you back to the application. If, however, you pressed back from within the application, pressing back again will do nothing. Intellectually, this does make sense; it's the same as you get in a browser. Go to your home page, then visit another page. If you click "back" to return to the home page, pressing back a second time won't do anything. If you press "home" to return to the home page, however, pressing back will take you back to the site you were visiting previously.

While this behavior may make sense in terms of a browser metaphor, in practice I found it kept on surprising me. The big thing was, if I spent long enough in an application, then I tended to forget where I was before, so pressing "back" to return took me somewhere essentially random.

Even worse was the behavior in the browser. Let's say I click a link in an e-mail; that starts the browser. I navigate through the website for a while, before wanting to return to my e-mail. Now, I can do this by pressing "back," but a single press won't take me back to the e-mail. It'll just undo the browser navigation. I have to press back-back-back-back... to return to the first page I visited in the browser, and only then will pressing back return me to the mail. If I don't care about the browsing I was doing, this is a little annoying. If I do care, it's actively destructive. All those presses of back take me away from the page I ended up at. But I might not want to leave that page—I may want to refer to it later or something. I just want to go back to the e-mail, without having to go back through the webpages.
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Reading through this, yeah it really sounds kind of crap when using the browser.


Can current users give some impressions on the mech? Also, tell me if this at all makes sense. What if MS implemented the following for back button usage?
  • Short press - backs you up a level from within an application
  • Long press - jumps back out of the application

Wouldn't this address most of the issues?
 
Anyone else find that NeoGAF renders much more readable on WP7 then on their iPhone? I had to zoom and scroll constantly on my iPhone whereas I just have to simply read on my "inferior" rendering ie mobile browser.

That said I'm not a huge fan of the way the text renders but its much more functional now.

Everyday I find myself loving this phone more and more.
 
kazinova said:
Anyone else find that NeoGAF renders much more readable on WP7 then on their iPhone? I had to zoom and scroll constantly on my iPhone whereas I just have to simply read on my "inferior" rendering ie mobile browser.

That said I'm not a huge fan of the way the text renders but its much more functional now.

Everyday I find myself loving this phone more and more.
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Are you using the second app for gaf?
 
Raistlin said:
I've been slowly reading through reviews/walkthroughs of the OS, and have found one somewhat universal complaint. The dual-use of the back button for backing up within an application as well as backing up out of applications works in some situations ... but is pretty frustrating in others.

For example, here's some relevant text from the Ars review.



Reading through this, yeah it really sounds kind of crap when using the browser.


Can current users give some impressions on the mech? Also, tell me if this at all makes sense. What if MS implemented the following for back button usage?
  • Short press - backs you up a level from within an application
  • Long press - jumps back out of the application

Wouldn't this address most of the issues?
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Pages stay open in is thumbnail tabs so not sure how this is an issue in ie. If you just want to go back hit back or else just hit the home button. Engadget harped on this issue prerelease, and I was confused and worried
Post getting the phone it's been a non issue.

The real issue isn't the back thing. It's the lack of multitasking.
 
Brettison said:
Pages stay open in is thumbnail tabs so not sure how this is an issue in ie. If you just want to go back hit back or else just hit the home button. Engadget harped on this issue prerelease, and I was confused and worried
Post getting the phone it's been a non issue.

The real issue isn't the back thing. It's the lack of multitasking.
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I'm confused. You say to hit back ... but doesn't that go back to the previous site/page?
 
Brettison said:
Pages stay open in is thumbnail tabs so not sure how this is an issue in ie. If you just want to go back hit back or else just hit the home button. Engadget harped on this issue prerelease, and I was confused and worried
Post getting the phone it's been a non issue.

The real issue isn't the back thing. It's the lack of multitasking.
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I love the back button and I am not sure what the big deal is if you wmt to go back to main page just hit the window button ... Actually I miss the back button now using my iPad.
 
Picked up my Omnia 7 yesterday, very pleased with it. I'll post some photos later.

Few issues with it (probably the same with all WP7 phones).

Sub folders in mailboxes do not notify you either on the lock screen or live tile that there is new mail, even though it's set to synchronise.

Sub folders in mailboxes don't seem to synchronise quickly (if at all unless prompted) even though the account is set to receive mail "as it arrives".

Have I picked the wrong option? Is "As it arrives" push?

When the phone is asleep it seems to sleep the wifi and the data connection (maybe?) because I don't receive emails instantly (even though it's set to "as they arrive").

For example, I put my phone to sleep, sent an email to my Gmail account. It is in my inbox online (has been for 7 minutes) but my phone hasn't received it. When I unlock the phone I go to the email and account settings and every account says "Not up-to-date" and will stay that way until I manually synchronise. Any ideas?
 
Wifi does disconnect during sleep.. I think data is still going.

Gmail is not push.. at least, not for me.. so I see the same behavior.

My exchange mail from work does push to my inbox.. which is where all of my mail goes anyway..
 
Raistlin said:
Reading through this, yeah it really sounds kind of crap when using the browser.

Can current users give some impressions on the mech? Also, tell me if this at all makes sense. What if MS implemented the following for back button usage?
  • Short press - backs you up a level from within an application
  • Long press - jumps back out of the application

Wouldn't this address most of the issues?
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I've been using it for about a week and, to me, this is a non-issue. When I follow a twitter link to a web page, I don't usually start an extended browsing session.

And even if I did, I can close the tab and hit Back once to get back into the Tweet I was looking at (or email or people hub or whatever.)

I find that it works as I expect it to.
 
antiquegamer said:
I love the back button and I am not sure what the big deal is if you wmt to go back to main page just hit the window button ... Actually I miss the back button now using my iPad.
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Read the description I quoted. Is that not how it works?




CaptainABAB said:
I've been using it for about a week and, to me, this is a non-issue. When I follow a twitter link to a web page, I don't usually start an extended browsing session.

And even if I did, I can close the tab and hit Back once to get back into the Tweet I was looking at (or email or people hub or whatever.)

I find that it works as I expect it to.
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That doesn't sound too bad then.

However I would think the option to jump directly out of an app (back to a previous one) would be welcome wouldn't it?

Similarly, some sort of special gesture to drop to the bottom or jump to the top of a scrollable page (apps list, web page, etc) would be nice?
 
Brettison said:
Pages stay open in is thumbnail tabs so not sure how this is an issue in ie. If you just want to go back hit back or else just hit the home button. Engadget harped on this issue prerelease, and I was confused and worried
Post getting the phone it's been a non issue.

The real issue isn't the back thing. It's the lack of multitasking.
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I haven't really had any issues with the back button. 90% of the time it's extremely useful, with the 10% of the time being issues similar to Ars. I like it.

Has anyone considered making a WP7 App/Recommendation thread? Considering doing so if no one else wants to...mine won't be quite so pretty, though.
 
Is there a light, or some indicator, that lets you know when the phone receives a notification while asleep or locked? Also, can you used the led flash for a flashlight?

Mr. Snrub said:
I haven't really had any issues with the back button. 90% of the time it's extremely useful, with the 10% of the time being issues similar to Ars. I like it.

Has anyone considered making a WP7 App/Recommendation thread? Considering doing so if no one else wants to...mine won't be quite so pretty, though.
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You should also consider making a games thread. I saw an awesome game on the Tested video that iirc is a WP7 exclusive. Will definitely be getting that.
 
Raistlin said:
Read the description I quoted. Is that not how it works?





That doesn't sound too bad then.

However I would think the option to jump directly out of an app (back to a previous one) would be welcome wouldn't it?

Similarly, some sort of special gesture to drop to the bottom or jump to the top of a scrollable page (apps list, web page, etc) would be nice?
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I think android works the way you are describing in terms of the back button. But really, this is some nitpicky shit man. Do you overthink every purchasing decision this way?

It's like your left handed scrolling complaint. Hands over the icons? Seriously? I put my finger over my iphone and my android icons all the time, its a damn touchscreen man.
 
Robobandit said:
Wifi does disconnect during sleep.. I think data is still going.

Gmail is not push.. at least, not for me.. so I see the same behavior.

My exchange mail from work does push to my inbox.. which is where all of my mail goes anyway..
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I just deleted my Gmail account and set it back up as an Exchange account and it pushes perfectly now. Don't know what that's about because the account settings look identical.
 
kazinova said:
Anyone else find that NeoGAF renders much more readable on WP7 then on their iPhone? I had to zoom and scroll constantly on my iPhone whereas I just have to simply read on my "inferior" rendering ie mobile browser.

That said I'm not a huge fan of the way the text renders but its much more functional now.

Everyday I find myself loving this phone more and more.
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Why in the world are you not using http://www.secondapps.com/neogaf on your phone instead?
 
Nobby said:
Thanks for the reply, restarting the phone fixes it but I've already had to restart it 4 times today due to this issue. Atleast I know now that other people have the issue and hopefully it gets fixed soon.
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It's the Marketplace issue, hopefully MS will fix it soon because it is annoying.
 
Charred Greyface said:
Is there a light, or some indicator, that lets you know when the phone receives a notification while asleep or locked? Also, can you used the led flash for a flashlight?


You should also consider making a games thread. I saw an awesome game on the Tested video that iirc is a WP7 exclusive. Will definitely be getting that.
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I think there is a windows phone 7 gaming thread on the gaming side it's not very popular though.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=411686
 
Mr. Snrub said:
I know it was mentioned elsewhere, but damn, I wish we could get a nice Metro UI as opposed to the Safari/iOS UI for the GAF app.

Is there any general information for developing WP7 apps?
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Good links here

antiquegamer said:
I think there is a windows phone 7 gaming thread on the gaming side it's not very popular though.
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yeah, it's only at two pages. I'm not a huge handheld gamer but that brick breaker game seems really fun.
 
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