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Unknown Soldier said:
There isn't any Windows Phone which is in any place to "jab" Android. If Nokia thinks they can take on Android they will have another thought coming really soon.
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Unknown Soldier said:
Ah, I was hoping we'd get to personal insults soon. It shows who's truly mature enough on the Internet to have a discussion and who isn't pretty clearly.
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What insult? You said you were done with the thread yet you can't stay away. Nothing insulting about stating you have some insecurity issues causing you to be unable to commit to what you've previously said. Someone secure with themselves would stay away from the thread after stating they have no desire to be here. I just don't get where it's coming from, Windows Phone is a near dead platform at the moment. Why do you feel the need to defend android against it?
Complex Shadow said:
Need links.

Also the 710 is in no place to "jab" anyone. Esp. When there is the 800.
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I'm guessing it will be on ESPN all day today, the phone in the ad(and the phone on the TMobile website) features an ESPN tile. Hopefully someone will be able to Youtube it at some point.

The jab was just that they featured an ice cream cone along with the phone and knowing marketing people like I do, that wasn't an accident with android's ice cream sandwich being the key phrase for them at the moment.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Ah, I was hoping we'd get to personal insults soon. It shows who's truly mature enough on the Internet to have a discussion and who isn't pretty clearly.
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Unknown Soldier said:
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Freedom isn't free."
- Walter Hitchcock

"So I ask you: do you want to be safe, or do you want to be free?"
- Louis Sachar (Sideways Stories from Wayside School)

You can be safe in the walled garden. You'll have to do as Ballmer says, when he says you can't run these apps at the same time, you can't. When he says you can't have a screen resolution higher than that, you can't. When he says you can't have an external storage solution where you can remove the external storage without formatting the whole phone, you can't. When he says that you can't have custom ringtones, you can't. If you're comfortable with someone at Microsoft telling you how you can and can't use your phone, then I suppose you should choose to be safe. You might as well get an iPhone if you're going to submit to the tyranny of the walled garden.

Alternatively, you can be free. You can do what you want, when you want. You can put anything on your home screen, you can run any browser you want, you can use any music player or video player you like. Sometimes it will be a bit dangerous. Your phone might crash for no good reason. If you open too many apps at once, you might make your phone slow down. Some of your apps might kill your battery, and if you have a really huge HD screen and LTE you will definitely kill your battery if you don't know what you are doing. You might actually have to manage all your apps once you've installed a few hundred because there are so many to choose from which are useful. If you're not careful, you'll put a dozen gigabytes of music on your microSD card and not remember what is all on there, so you'll have to pull it out of the phone and stick it into a PC to manage it. Then you'll start cutting out 30 seconds of your own music and making your own custom ringtones and you'll subject your friends to 30 seconds of the worst pop song which is currently popular. Please don't make a custom Justin Bieber ringtone, unless you want someone on the subway to stab you.

Yeah, you can be safe, or you can be free. Ultimately, the choice is yours. I choose to be free, so I have a Galaxy Nexus.
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This is why you are considered a joke.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34176433&postcount=18164
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After the controversial Smoked by Windows Phone uploading picture to Facebook dispute yesterday, Ben the PC Guy offered own WMPowerUser reader, Aaron (AlienSix) a rematch. Aaron accepted the offer and returned to the Microsoft CES booth.

Ben updated the rules of the contest, and declared that the finish line this time around would be when the user clicks the “Post” button. This means that the contest does not include the actual data upload, and does not include the loading screen after the user clicks the Post button.

Aaron informed us that the HTC Titan beat his Samsung Galaxy S2 by ”literally under a second.”
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Awww. That 2011 dual-core 1GB RAM peasant Android phone was soooo close beating the majestic and stunning single-core 512 MB RAM Windows Phone. I'm sure the Windows Phone will lose, once they get quad-cores and 2 GB RAM.
 
brotkasten said:
Awww. That 2011 dual-core 1GB RAM peasant Android phone was soooo close beating the majestic and stunning single-core 512 MB RAM Windows Phone. I'm sure the Windows Phone will lose, once they get quad-cores and 2 GB RAM.
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And the funny thing about that is you just KNOW that he practised a shitload of times before taking that test again.
The poor safe windows phone users at the mercy of ballmer don't seem too much trouble stacking up against the majestic free birds of the android community.
 
Monumental said:
And the funny thing about that is you just KNOW that he practised a shitload of times before taking that test again.
The poor safe windows phone users at the mercy of ballmer don't seem too much trouble stacking up against the majestic free birds of the android community.
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Who were they racing against? I'm assuming the WP user had plenty of practice since, you know, it was their contest. Also, uploading a picture to Facebook...isn't this more about OS fluidity rather than speed? It seems like something that would depend on the speed of the fingers of the user, not something that takes much power to process (basically, I doubt WP could get any faster and Android would probably run the same on any model within the last year).

Anyway, you guys have an Android basher in the Android OT...not a big deal since no one responds to his attempts at getting a rise. You should try that.
 
Monumental said:
This is why you are considered a joke.
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So what you're saying is, you don't have anything intelligent to respond to my post with. Good to know.

brotkasten said:
Awww. That 2011 dual-core 1GB RAM peasant Android phone was soooo close beating the majestic and stunning single-core 512 MB RAM Windows Phone. I'm sure the Windows Phone will lose, once they get quad-cores and 2 GB RAM.
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You know, I use the Facebook for Android app daily, and it's a really terrible app. I would hate to burst your bubble by noting that Facebook themselves develop the Android app, but the Windows Phone app is developed by MS. But I guess you win this round. I freely admit that if the only thing you do with your smartphone is post to Facebook, then Windows Phone is clearly superior to Android.
 
Husker86 said:
Who were they racing against? I'm assuming the WP user had plenty of practice since, you know, it was their contest.

Anyway, you guys have an Android basher in the Android OT...not a big deal since no one responds to his attempts at getting a rise. You should try that.
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Ben is just one guy and he's at CES all day doing a variety of things. But hey, even if they both practiced equally, what does it say when the WP7 still won?
And it's not about developing a thick skin. I have NEVER, in the history of this forum read such a vomit-inducing rant. Possibly the only thing that comes close is the "Squareenix shot themselves in the foot" post made after FFXIII went to Xbox 360. And someone who posts like that needs to be ridiculed and deserves nothing better.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
You know, I use the Facebook for Android app daily, and it's a really terrible app. I would hate to burst your bubble by noting that Facebook themselves develop the Android app, but the Windows Phone app is developed by MS. But I guess you win this round. I freely admit that if the only thing you do with your smartphone is post to Facebook, then Windows Phone is clearly superior to Android.
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I don't need an app to post on Facebook. Just saying.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
So what you're saying is, you don't have anything intelligent to respond to my post with. Good to know.
You know, I use the Facebook for Android app daily, and it's a really terrible app. I would hate to burst your bubble by noting that Facebook themselves develop the Android app, but the Windows Phone app is developed by MS. But I guess you win this round. I freely admit that if the only thing you do with your smartphone is post to Facebook, then Windows Phone is clearly superior to Android.
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You are far too obsessed with Windows phone to not know that the contest was any daily task that the challenger wanted to do and they could figure out a proper test for.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Ah, I was hoping we'd get to personal insults soon. It shows who's truly mature enough on the Internet to have a discussion and who isn't pretty clearly.
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You've been posting in another thread specifically to justify your purchase of a phone and tell other people that their needs and wants are wrong because they're not the same as yours.
 
SeanR1221 said:
Isn't it one of those management games where you set things up, leave for a few hours and play again?
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Yes, but it is clearly designed to tempt you to buy stuff. Purchase coins can be used to speed up things (tasks can take 6 hours real-time if not speed up) and some itens can only be purchased by coins (bought fro real money) not accorns (earn in-game).

But if you have patience to turn on the game every time or so and play for 15 min, you can finished it. Itens that can only purchased are optional.
 
something interesting...

"Verizon and AT&T don't want seven stock ICS devices on their shelves," he said, insisting that he "has to make money" and that there simply isn't a way to profit on a device that isn't differentiated. "The vast majority of the changes we make to the OS are to meet the requirements that carriers have."
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/10/2...erizon-and-at-t-dont-want-seven-stock-android

i know it's about Android, but i'm guessing the carriers have the same line of thinking with WP7 as well?
 
bigtroyjon said:
You are far too obsessed with Windows phone to not know that the contest was any daily task that the challenger wanted to do and they could figure out a proper test for.
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Competitions like this are inherently skewed though. It really only shows the rationale of the creator of the OS. Uploading a picture on iOS is incredibly cumbersome, but that's only because Apple chose to make it cumbersome (You can't natively share to facebook as you can with Twitter, you have to go into the facebook app and then upload it).
Android is the same way I believe. If the same task was upload to Google +, then naturally the social network the creator of Android is invested in, would handily smoke the competition (can't beat instant upload).

Campaigns like this always bring out the worst in fans.
 
Patriots7 said:
Competitions like this are inherently skewed though. It really only shows the rationale of the creator of the OS. Uploading a picture on iOS is incredibly cumbersome, but that's only because Apple chose to make it cumbersome (You can't natively share to facebook as you can with Twitter, you have to go into the facebook app and then upload it).
Android is the same way I believe. If the same task was upload to Google +, then naturally the social network the creator of Android is invested in, would handily smoke the competition (can't beat instant upload).

Campaigns like this always bring out the worst in fans.
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I don't get what you are saying. If an ios user wanted the. contest to be using their native twitter functionality, that's what they could have done. It didn't have to be Facebook.
 
Patriots7 said:
Competitions like this are inherently skewed though. It really only shows the rationale of the creator of the OS. Uploading a picture on iOS is incredibly cumbersome, but that's only because Apple chose to make it cumbersome (You can't natively share to facebook as you can with Twitter, you have to go into the facebook app and then upload it).
Android is the same way I believe. If the same task was upload to Google +, then naturally the social network the creator of Android is invested in, would handily smoke the competition (can't beat instant upload).

Campaigns like this always bring out the worst in fans.
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I thought I read there were like 10 choices of challanges for people to do. Probably were not all photo uploading.
 
claviertekky said:
What exactly is Apollo going to add?

More APIs?
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New kernel supposedly gleamed from Windows 8 in some fashion. It's the main upgrade the platform needs, and it's the main upgrade we are supposedly getting. New kernel will allow for RAM amounts higher than 512, multi-core processor support, and a general support for a wider range of hardware.

Not to mention more flexibility.
 
The competition was set up to replicate the tasks that people do most often, on the most popular social networks etc. Also, you could negotiate the terms to a certain extent.

I'm sure unknown soldier would set up contests that just run Java browser tests or gpu performance tests, but real world tasks I think are more important.

I can absolutely understand the appeal of Android, I still own a Nexus device. When you fail to appreciate the appeal of a competing platform because of what YOU value as a user versus what other people put a premium on, that's when you become unknown soldier-level stupid.
 
JaggedSac said:
I thought I read there were like 10 choices of challanges for people to do. Probably were not all photo uploading.
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It's still skewed in that Microsoft is obviously going to pick ten challenges that WP7 compares favorably against the competition. For example one of the challenges was checking the weather, there's no way WP7 could've possibly lost that since it's right there on the live tile.

And that's fine, the whole point of this challenge was to demonstrate that their operating system can complete certain tasks faster. But it's not exactly a completely unbiased challenge.
 
Sean said:
It's still skewed in that Microsoft is obviously going to pick ten challenges that WP7 compares favorably against the competition. For example one of the challenges was checking the weather, there's no way WP7 could've possibly lost that since it's right there on the live tile.

And that's fine, the whole point of this challenge was to demonstrate that their operating system can complete certain tasks faster. But it's not exactly a completely unbiased challenge.
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Android has weather widgets.
 
brotkasten said:
Android has weather widgets.
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So it would have been close, good thing the lock screen swipes away quickly on WP7. I was playing with my friends Galaxy Nexus SII (or whatever the new ICS flagship is called) it still has that Android jank lag. You know the drill, place thumb on screen, move thumb, jerk-jerk-jerk screen catches up. It was slow to unlock the phone.

It's really strange, I've only ever owned an iPhone and my Focus. Phones should react smoothly to input...
 
It would be interesting to see some shoot-outs between phones in the $0.00-$49.99 range for each platform. The Lumia 710 and Radar 4G would probably destroy the competition.
 
So I really like the Lumia 900 but there are a few things holding me back from leaving iOS.

- mint.com. I use this app a lot when I'm out to keep track of my budgets. I know there's pageonce but my fiancé and I are already set up perfectly on mint. I'd have to use the regular page which kind of stinks.

- Cheapassgamer. I've been a member of this community for 7 years and the mobile site is completely fucked on IE.

- cant see likes on Facebook. Minor, but really no reason why I can't.

- Lack of free music streaming from my library like Mspot, unless I can do this with Skydrive...
Right now I stream 4,000 songs from Mspot for free on my iPhone.

- bing maps. Not as good as google maps on the iPhone. I found the google maps app on WP7 to not be that great either.

However, there are things I love about WP7. The me tile, group tiles, the interface, the XBL achievements...

It's also hard to break out of the apple Eco system. I did it once when the surround launched, got scared and ran back to iOS. Although now that I have an unlocked focus, I think I may have stuck with the Focus, the surround kind of sucks.
 
brotkasten said:
Android has weather widgets.
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To mitigate that, the test was set up so you had to check the weather for TWO cities rather than one.

And since the accuweather app allows you to pin multiple cities to the start screen, you can check two cities as quickly as one on wp7.

The challenges are obviously stacked towards the os' strength, but since it was built for everyday tasks, the result is that the challenges are actually very reasonable. You SHOULD be able to quickly check the weather, post status updates, upload pics, find restaurants and identify songs on the radio. You can't argue those are things people don't do on their phones.
 
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