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claviertekky said:
How does a phone win CES if it has the same hardware specs minus the screen as other WP7 phones?
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Better Camera (supposedly) + better body + nokia exclusive apps

PS:I've wondered all along though how certain phones "win" a show like CES when they are all soo similar on both WP7 and Android for that matter. A lot of it all seems like personal preference.
 
claviertekky said:
How does a phone win CES if it has the same hardware specs minus the screen as other WP7 phones?
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I know right. I say manufacturers should just fax a spec sheet to the CES judging committee and call it a day.

Also, Copernicus, someone already pre-trolled on the previous page with the moneyhat line, buddy, your ass needs to speed up with the shitty posts.
 
Brettison said:
Better Camera (supposedly) + better body + nokia exclusive apps

PS:I've wondered all along though how certain phones "win" a show like CES when they are all soo similar on both WP7 and Android for that matter. A lot of it all seems like personal preference.
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I thought the white experia looked pretty damn good. Not as good as a white 900 (god please let this happen before march). But pretty damn good none the less. Of course I am sucker for the color white and LEDs >_<
 
I just got a Lumia 800 today... Bloody hell, how do I sync my Mac contacts into the phone?

I don't want to merge my address book with my Google Contacts, which is filled with garbage but possibly useful emails.
 
Seems like the battery update for the Lumia 800 will start to roll out next week.

But considering the fact that my carrier (T-Mobile Germany) will only start offering the 8107 update at the end of January, I'll probably have to wait another few weeks for that one too.
 
I will be on US late February. Let's hope L900 is out by them. If not, my brother will be there mid-April, so I can ask him to bring one for me.

Time to change the HD7.
 
Milchjon said:
Seems like the battery update for the Lumia 800 will start to roll out next week.

But considering the fact that my carrier (T-Mobile Germany) will only start offering the 8107 update at the end of January, I'll probably have to wait another few weeks for that one too.
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Is there also a camera update for the 800 in the works? I've heard the 800 camera is bad. Can it be fixed with a software update?
 
What setting in Facebook do I have to use so I can see my wife's pics in the people hub? I can see her posts, but when she posts a pic of doesn't show up in her tile.
 
Milchjon said:
Seems like the battery update for the Lumia 800 will start to roll out next week.

But considering the fact that my carrier (T-Mobile Germany) will only start offering the 8107 update at the end of January, I'll probably have to wait another few weeks for that one too.
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I thought firmware updates are independent from OS update. Also reading somewhere that you van just flash tour own but a tech site claim the update didn't fix much.

I am just curious if HTC will ever fix the Titan call quality and WiFi...at least Nokia is committed since since they have something to prove.
 
Got another 5%-er text from AT&T this morning. 28 days into my billing cycle and used 1.8 gigs of unlimited. WTF they made for? It's like if you download a couple albums from Zune over the course of a month then you're screwed.
 
Also you can actually steam your music from Google Music as well. It's not as elegant or anything without a dedicated app like my GF has on her inspire, but it can work. You just have to use the website version, and it'll stream even under the lock screen.


brotkasten said:
I think you need to enable access for third party apps in her privacy settings.
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Yep. It's also the reason that the People Hub is relatively useless for me for FB.
 
looking back at the nokia concepts

this one looks an awful lot like the 710
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this concept i guess looks like the 800/900
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nokia-800.png
 
Brettison said:
Yep. It's also the reason that the People Hub is relatively useless for me for FB.
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Most of my friends never change anything in the privacy settings, so it still works pretty good, but yes, Microsoft should invest a bit more into Facebook for a better partnership. The people hup should be a first party app.
 
claviertekky said:
How does a phone win CES if it has the same hardware specs minus the screen as other WP7 phones?
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To me it shows two things.

First, they realize comparing phone SoC's from different OS's is apples to oranges. The actual usability/speed of the OS is easily comparable (some would argue better) to iOS and Android even if it's on 'lesser' HW. So there's no reason why an WP7 can't rate higher.

Second, even though MS has relatively strict HW mandates (though it's expanding), there actually is enough flexibility that manufacturers can still stand out. They chose to do the following:

  • Use an updated SoC chipset. It's one of the faster available (1.4GHz Snapdragon APQ8055 + MDM9200), and I'm under the impression has improved battery life versus prior designs.
  • Subjective, but I think the style/design is fantastic. Like it or not it certainly stands out versus other designs.
  • 16GB memory. I'd like to see a 32GB option, but at least their not going with the minimum
  • LTE
  • They implemented their own screen tech to improve performance
  • 1830mAH battery for extended life
  • Regardless of MP count, they went with a high-end camera solution - Carl Zeiss optics, F2.2 aperture lens with a 28mm focal length, dual LED flash
  • FFC
  • Nokia is providing some serious apps. Many manufacturers have their own apps, but they aren't large scale ones like Nokia makes.
  • Nokia provides services, at least in some regions


You combine that all together, and it makes a strong case.
 
brotkasten said:
Most of my friends never change anything in the privacy settings, so it still works pretty good, but yes, Microsoft should invest a bit more into Facebook for a better partnership. The people hup should be a first party app.
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Given MS actually owns part of Facebook ... it is pretty silly this hasn't happened yet. I really hope it's in the next OS update.





giga said:
The Xoom "won" at last year's CES. Don't take cnet seriously.
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Pretty much. It's not a 'what we think will sell the best' award or anything. It's more about overall style, performance, and features.

Regardless I think the 900 was a good choice. It certainly has a stand-out style and nice features/specs. There doesn't seem to be any crippling flaws or anything. Basically it's a hero phone that also happens to look way nicer than any of the other new phones shown at CES imo. I would have been surprised if it didn't win to be honest.
 
Cool stuff on the HTC Titan II

  • The TITAN II is not replacing the TITAN. The plan is to sell both phones in the same market with the TITAN II augmenting AT&T's offerings to customers with different price points and features. In other words, the TITAN II is the high-end, premium version for customers who want that feature set. The TITAN will be a lower-priced offering for those who are okay with HSPA+, etc. It's an interesting and we think smart move for both HTC and AT&T.
  • As we mentioned in the video test, the TITAN II features a secondary processor for the camera--we're a little fuzzy on the exact details but it explains why shooting at 16MP feels no different than shooting at 8MP, with zero lag
  • We passed on the info about the SRS stutter bug as well as the microphone/sound issue that quite a few of you have reported. That info should get to their engineers for further investigation.
  • No word on those docks for the Radar and Titan, in fact, it's probably best to forget those
  • On HTC using but not always announcing Gorilla Glass--in short, they want some wiggle room in case of during production they switch to an alternative scratch-resistant screen due to cost or supply issues. What you need to know is that basically all high-end HTC phones have Gorilla Glass or its equivalent on board.
  • The HTC TITAN II is an AT&T exclusive. No word on world-wide release though we can expect some announcements at Mobile World Congress (MWC) next month in Barcelona--as HTC considers that to be one of their big events. Perhaps an international version of the TITAN II will be announced or something similar.
  • The push for 4G LTE devices is driven a lot by AT&T wanting to get people off of their overloaded 3G network, so devices like the TITAN II and Lumia 900 are highly welcomed by the carrier
  • Like Nokia, HTC doesn't seem keen on 32GB memory devices. Everyone is pushing for the cloud.
  • The HTC TITAN is selling very well world-wide and they're very happy with its performance

And what about our second experience with the TITAN II? If HTC and AT&T are aiming for this to be a premium version of the TITAN we think they did a pretty good job as the new changes really give the device a more classy feel to it. The curved glass near the bottom is a really excellent engineering feat and the Super LCD on the TITAN II is even better than the TITAN I (better contrast, brighter). We're pretty excited about getting our hands on this as our daily driver--that LTE is quite the blast to use, especially when web browsing.
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How do the social networking features work in Windows Phone?

Is it all tied to third party application access to a Windows ID?
 
D4Danger said:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/people/facebook-on-my-phone-faq.aspx

You can add your facebook, twitter, whatever account to Windows Phone and it just pulls down the data and puts it in the right place. It's seamless.

I not sure I understand the second part of your question.
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That link answered my question.

Basically, you grant applications access through the Windows Live ID.

Windows Phone then is able to parse information just like the experience visiting the Windows Live portal from a web browser.

I'm not sure if I like that.
 
claviertekky said:
That link answered my question.

Basically, you grant applications access through the Windows Live ID.

Windows Phone then is able to parse information just like the experience visiting the Windows Live portal from a web browser.

I'm not sure if I like that.
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From a privacy standpoint? Or are you talking about technical possibilities? Cuz it works pretty much flawlessly in my experience.
 
I hope Nokia shows some love to Verizon and Sprint. If Nokia's serious about the US market, they have to support CDMA. There are a ton of people on both carriers would would love to own a Lumia 900!

On another note, I think Nokia and Microsoft should take a closer look at targeting the female demographic. There's success to be had there.
 
Fatalah said:
I hope Nokia shows some love to Verizon and Sprint. If Nokia's serious about the US market, they have to support CDMA. There are a ton of people on both carriers would would love to own a Lumia 900!

On another note, I think Nokia and Microsoft should take a closer look at targeting the female demographic. There's success to be had there.
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Again, it's the other way around. Verizon and Sprint have to show Windows Phone in general some love, but they don't because they don't care.
 
I think AT&T has a exclusive window for WP LTE devices, i think 6 months or something. And T-Mobile has the 710 exclusive for 3 months so Verizon not getting the phones isn't totally their fault. I expect to see WP on Verizon the second half of the year.
 
Windu said:
I think AT&T has a exclusive window for WP LTE devices, i think 6 months or something. And T-Mobile has the 710 exclusive for 3 months so Verizon not getting the phones isn't totally their fault. I expect to see WP on Verizon the second half of the year.
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How do you think it works with the negotiations of those contracts?

Verizon: Hey Nokia, cool phone. Can we get it?
Nokia: Sorry Verizon, biggest carrier in the states, I like AT&T's logo more.
Verizon: Okay. :(
AT&T: Yay! :)

Either Nokia had terms that Verizon didn't want to accept or AT&T bid more money on the device/exclusivity.
 
brotkasten said:
How do you think it works with the negotiations of those contracts?

Verizon: Hey Nokia, cool phone. Can we get it?
Nokia: Sorry Verizon, biggest carrier in the states, I like AT&T's logo more.
Verizon: Okay. :(
AT&T: Yay! :)
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its probably more like we'll pay you this and give you this spot in our retail stores, help you advertise etc... if you go exclusive for awhile.
 
kazinova said:
It's probably that AT&T is GSM and Verizon and Sprint are CDMA. You guys are making this too complicated.
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That's no excuse. Windows Phone supports CDMA and there are certified CDMA chipsets for Windows Phone. Sprint's CEO said few days ago that he's not interested in the OS.
 
kazinova said:
It's probably that AT&T is GSM and Verizon and Sprint are CDMA. You guys are making this too complicated.
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Exactly my point, thank you. Historically, Nokia releases more phones on GSM US carriers because Nokia's phones are built for the world standard GSM. So Nokia -- more love for Verizon + Sprint please.
 
PG2G said:
Is there anything unique about CDMA/LTE versus GSM/LTE?
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Judging by the Galaxy Nexus, Verizon's CDMA model is slightly thicker and heavier than the GSM model.

From what I understand about current 4G chips, there's much room for improvement in power efficiency and running at cooler temperatures.
 
Fatalah said:
Judging by the Galaxy Nexus, Verizon's CDMA model is slightly thicker and heavier than the GSM model.

From what I understand about current 4G chips, there's much room for improvement in power efficiency and running at cooler temperatures.
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The GSM Nexus doesn't have LTE though; wonder if it's just that that needs extra space.
 
Windu said:
I think AT&T has a exclusive window for WP LTE devices, i think 6 months or something. And T-Mobile has the 710 exclusive for 3 months so Verizon not getting the phones isn't totally their fault. I expect to see WP on Verizon the second half of the year.
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I see it more as Verizon is going to get their own device. And since Nokia hasn't even announced a CDMA capable WP device for any region, one probably just isn't ready yet. OR they're waiting for Apollo, but I think that'd be a mistake. You don't help your subscribers by having such long delays between device releases.
 
brotkasten said:
They own 5%, I think. Not really a significant amount.
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Not a significant amount, but I suspect they have fairly open communications lines ... not to mention the entire Skype usage.

All I'm saying is they should be able to convince Facebook to allow the hub to be treated as a 1st party app.
 
Were any Focus owners able to update their phone from 7720 to the latest ones? I keep checking on Zune, and it always says my phone is updated to the latest version...but it's not.
 
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