No. This is not what's happening. If you clicked reserve your copy in the last few weeks, the bits will have already been downloaded to your machine by the 29th and ready to install on the 29th.
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Windows Phone 8.1 |OT| Update 1
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No. This is not what's happening. If you clicked reserve your copy in the last few weeks, the bits will have already been downloaded to your machine by the 29th and ready to install on the 29th.
Steelyuhas
Member
Windows blog post
Unless I'm reading that wrong, looks like a gradual rollout that starts with Insiders on the 29th.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
What's a good qi charger that's cheap but not cheap enough that it might damage my phone?
Well fuck me, that's not what I had read.
I've used a TechMatte charger with my Icon since day one and have yet to run into any issues. It's $20 on amazon now. I tried to copy and paste a link but that function is broken on the Edge browser.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
New iPhone is September, so the win 10 phone will at least be announced by then. Unfortunately, I can't think of a killer software feature that will matter on the platform, and the rumors are that it's not the 1020 replacement, so I don't know what standout hardware features they could announce either. At some point, the promise of continuum is very appealing to me as a professional office worker, but that probably won't be ready in final form this year. The chips this year aren't really going to provide the kind of horsepower that you would need to power the experience of a true continuum device that lets you go from phone to big screen monitor with one device.
Anton Sugar
Member
As long as it's this year, and the devices are actually appealing, I'm onboard for another OS refresh.
Why not?
It's not like most monitors are higher res than the phones that are rumoured.
yankeehater
Member
Thank you so much. I have been trying for days to change the text message sound.
Continuum is quite exciting, but I doubt it'll see much use.
If anything, Microsoft should be afraid of Continuum. If it's as big a deal as they think it is, it's going to be a precursor to iOS and Android wiping out Windows.
I thought the point was that the continuum device had to be running Windows 10?
brotkasten
Member
He probably means that it's going to be a feature that Apple and Google are going to copy in no time.
MrGreencastle
Member
Can they PLEASE put a microsd slot in their new flagship. Like come on.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Sometimes you have to sacrifice things for an alloy back.
Please, god, no alloy back.
MrGreencastle
Member
Just update the 830 design with the removable back and sd slot. That way, they could have one of those flip shell things integrated into the back as an option. That's my ideal device. Don't even care if it's not metal unibody, the removable back is more important to me.
Only reason people are even thinking it is useful is because it would allow for the Office suite to be used on the phone just like desktop. Maybe even the possibility of using other software developed for the universal app platform like full Photoshop. If other phone OS's want a Continuum like thing to succeed, it would be for Office. At which point, MS don't care.
brotkasten
Member
From what they've shown it looks like Continuum is not that interesting either. None of the demos had windowed apps. Just full screen and side-by-side. "PC-like experience" and "PC-like productivity", indeed.
I see it as a gimmick that's nice to show because it's cool, but I cannot see myself ever needing or using it. If I go on a business trip I take my surface, which does everything properly.
But it's certainly more realistically useful than an Android or iOS equivalent. Which is to say, still not very.
Actually I see it as an alternative to young people who may not have the need for a full PC but have a phone of course and can convert to keyboard mouse for more effective work like filling out job applications or other forms of writing etc.
Also in lower income parts of the world it could be a real useful tool to have the connection devices set up in places where you can just go to connect and have your "PC".
Same could be said for anyone that may not need nor want to travel with tablet or laptop yet they could be in a hotel room or business center for example.
So while not life changing the statistics show that fewer and fewer young people plan to own computers. This could be a viable alternative.
Whether that translates to MS having any success besides keeping people in their eco system and office only time will tell
well poop. I upgraded my icon to windows 10 and the wifi wont turn on, therefore I can't download any apps that weren't migrated over. I like what I've seen so far. Settings menu is thankfully facelifted and consolidated.
Gonna wait a day or so and then hard reset if its not fixed.
Gonna wait a day or so and then hard reset if its not fixed.
José Mourinho
cocknose
The black 830 looks so slick to me. As much as I like the green and orange I just don't care for the silver frame, which is why I opted for the bland all black 930. If I could of had a black framed 930 with colour I would have snapped it up.Just update the 830 design with the removable back and sd slot. That way, they could have one of those flip shell things integrated into the back as an option. That's my ideal device. Don't even care if it's not metal unibody, the removable back is more important to me.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
Had same issue with my 920. Had to do a factory reset.
Feels like this morning's Outlook update is making the app a lot more reliable. Live tiles and notifications seem to work properly now, too.
Still annoyed that with every update they reset your custom settings (signature, notifications, swipe gestures) to default. Hope this was the last time.
edit: also, the calendar live tile now works and the pictures you take show up in the photos app instantly (photos app had an update too). This is making the W10 mobile experience a lot more satisfying, I have to say.
Also, nice to see universal apps in effect in the real world where W10 and W10 mobile get the same app updates at the exact same time.
If there weren't so many upgrade bugs, I would wholeheartedly recommend installing this build now. It's ready for your daily driver. Battery life is still a bit worse than on WP8.1 (mostly due to Outlook as far as I can tell btw, hopefully the latest update improves things a bit), but apart from a few minor annoyances I think W10 is now better than WP8.1.
Still annoyed that with every update they reset your custom settings (signature, notifications, swipe gestures) to default. Hope this was the last time.
edit: also, the calendar live tile now works and the pictures you take show up in the photos app instantly (photos app had an update too). This is making the W10 mobile experience a lot more satisfying, I have to say.
Also, nice to see universal apps in effect in the real world where W10 and W10 mobile get the same app updates at the exact same time.
If there weren't so many upgrade bugs, I would wholeheartedly recommend installing this build now. It's ready for your daily driver. Battery life is still a bit worse than on WP8.1 (mostly due to Outlook as far as I can tell btw, hopefully the latest update improves things a bit), but apart from a few minor annoyances I think W10 is now better than WP8.1.
Oh, btw, I can't remember anymore who it was, but a little while ago someone asked whether the option to limit the connection to 3G etc. was removed in W10. I thought it was, but it's not.
It's just hidden away:
Save to say that the UI still needs some work, because at the moment there's guessing involved in finding certain things.
It's just hidden away:
If you highlight it:
And it's in there (amongst other things).
Save to say that the UI still needs some work, because at the moment there's guessing involved in finding certain things.
Not really sure I agree. The current build is tolerable for daily use but I wouldn't say it's better:
-Cortana has what seems to be half of the functionality, reverting back to mostly a Bing search program. Searching for a store will bring up internet search results instead of location listing, you have to specifically ask "find giant eagle near me." When searching locations, the results are just listed with no indication of distance. Once looking at a location, you no longer have any options to pin or save that card. Requires too many taps to find the option to save locations as favorites. You can't tell Cortana to take you anywhere because the maps app never loads up. You can't highlight an item in the browser and hit the search button to bring up the meaning of the word. There is no longer an option to search items on your phone. Hey Cortana doesn't work either.
-Edge is a speedy browser, but I haven't run into any pages that really look better due to the new rendering engine. They still need a scroll indicator. The browser will crash from time to time. Copy and paste isn't even offered in the browser. The cursor bug is extremely annoying.
-Surprisingly the music app is worse than the one found in 8.1. Songs will randomly not play for some reason. The UI will keep reverting back to the all songs list. I haven't been able to find the option to change the lock screen based on my music, so I'm guessing the feature is no longer there. The app no longer has a live tile.
-the outlook app doesn't push out policy settings the rest of the phone. It's annoying that your accounts are now managed through the app instead of having an actual accounts setting in the options menu like every other phone OS.
-The store still needs plenty of work. I have auto update turned off but once I check for updates it starts to download them automatically. Updates that fail to download continue to populate the list. Unless I'm missing it, there doesn't seem to be any notification to when an app was last updated.
-Original 8.0/8.1 apps don't run properly a lot of the time.
-UI is inconsistent.
-Performance definitely needs improving.
There are more annoyances but that's a quick summary of my experiences so far. This OS has potential but I wouldn't say it's better than 8.1 right now.
Copy paste in Edge works, but differently. It works like it does in W8, hold and a copy paste menu will pop up.
Not ideal, but a bug I would think.
I haven't encountered these problems, apart from lock screen not being supported yet and there not yet being a live tile (not that the lock screen support worked even half the time in 8.1).
What is a pain is the slow initial loading of the songs (first startup) and that the Xbox music integration isn't there/or if it is not finished. But in general the music app works at least as well as the old one for me, but with a far nicer UI.
Definitely hope they change this, because it's not ideal. That said, you shouldn't need to use that apart from the initial setup of a new account. Btw, it can also be done from the people hub.
Yes the store is buggy as fuck for sure. A lot of work still needed.
I can't confirm that. Old apps work just fine for me.
It is, but still already an improvement over 8 for me.
In places, for sure. But generally I don't think it performs slower than 8.1, if at all.
I guess it comes down to preference. I prefer it over 8 even in this early state. The new apps are buggy, but a lot better to use and more functional than old ones, for me.
my 1020 doesn't last a day, just idling on my desk with W10 latest build. I mean I didn't touch it at all since last night and it's dead now. Not sure if the phone is the issue or W10.
And can anyone tell my why there is no Glance Background for W10? Why remove a feature that was working well, and differentiated the phones from the rest?
Better than in previous builds for me, but not brilliant. I am suspecting Outlook to be the main problem. I do get a day out of my 1020, just.
It's still there, but not showing.
You can open the setting from the store (open http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/app/glance-screen/106e0a97-8b19-42cf-8879-a8ed2598fcbb in Edge), then click open.
Oh, cool, will have to try it when I get home. Thing is I have Glance settings available, but I can't set background through it, but I'll try it this way see if I get more options for the settings.
Thanks.
Yeah it works. Will ask you for a restart the first time you open it and then you can change the settings, just like before.
Any differences to the camera interface/functionality on the 1020 in W10?
Where are these rumors coming from?
The only thing that matter is a release date.
The main difference is that Lenses no longer exist and that none of the Lumia camera apps (Cinemagraph etc.) work or can be installed.
But the normal camera functionality is fine? Re-framing, action shot, etc.
Any noticeable differences in processing?
The default camera app is effectively Lumia Camera.
Had to restart a few times, as the first time I had errors on the "extras" settings. But yeah, now I can set background, but, it seems it has to be the same background as the regular lockscreen? Liked it more when you could have separate ones, but I'm guessing (hoping) it'll come in the future. thanks.
So November release...
No action shot, that's a lense.
Re-framing is different and not as intuitive as before, but it works somewhat.
The 1020 specific features (resolution settings, raw etc) are not there, and the picture processing seems a bit off and it's slower than on WP8.1. However, start up time is a bit better, I think.
So if you're using your 1020 as your camera a lot, do not use W10 on it for now, is what I'm saying.
Ok, thanks. No update for me than yet.
Now, I still need to decide about picking up an 830 or 930 to play with for the time being or just wait to see what the W10 devices are.
Verizon only and can only be purchased by Amazon Prime members in a city that has Amazon Prime Now.
brotkasten
Member
You forgot to mention the invite system that is exclusive to Windows Insiders who registered their accounts before December 31, 2014.