i have no doubt it is. Cost/Benefit ... not enough phones to warrant the work, and no one wants to be responsible for a complete flash of the ROM... its not something any carrier would EVER agree to do over the air.
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i have no doubt it is. Cost/Benefit ... not enough phones to warrant the work, and no one wants to be responsible for a complete flash of the ROM... its not something any carrier would EVER agree to do over the air.
SpoonyBard
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Nope, and I'm going to avoid it from now on.
brotkasten
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Even better, 18 months from the release of the device and not the OS.
And you can finally say 'fuck you' to the carriers.
Did you pull the trigger on the Xperia? Saw that it is getting ICS today.
As someone who uses Zune everyday, I can assure you it isn't "dead". The branding will change in Windows 8 and new features will likely only be added there, but the app itself will need to stay to support Windows 7/Vista/XP users.
Considering the Xbox Music service is expanding the marketplace significantly, there is no way the Zune/Xbox Music app will be just for syncing like the Vita Content Manager. There might be a syncing app for WP8 that is independent of Zune/XM, but they won't get rid of Zune.
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8-details-allegedly-revealed-nokia-partner-video
Almost everything listed back then happened today so this is almost guaranteed.
My understanding of this rumor is different here, in that I believe that Zune software will completely disappear and be replaced with a simple syncing only software for desktops and perhaps accompanied with a Windows 8 app. Kinda similar to the current Mac solution.
The music part of the Zune software and services will live on through Xbox Music.
Yep, the Zune desktop app is what got me to replace my iPad with a Zune HD. The software works much better for me than iTunes did.
The Zune software will need to still exist to support the older Zune devices, or at least all of that functionality will need to be in the new app (Xbox Music?). Even if they seperate the syncing/media player components, the functionality of Zune should still exist, only possibly with a new name.
brotkasten
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Zune is dead and the desktop client won't change anymore. There's no team for that and they already killed the Windows Phone marketplace in the software.
Speaking of the marketplace: Audible is out http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/bdc813dd-c20b-41f8-8646-de72fa0b365d
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Audible app is on the market: http://t.co/Qcicmjnk
Also, as I understand it, the Zune software stays for pre- windows 8 machines. They might change the branding, but that's how folks with Zune and windows phone devices will sync if they dont have windows 8.
Also, as I understand it, the Zune software stays for pre- windows 8 machines. They might change the branding, but that's how folks with Zune and windows phone devices will sync if they dont have windows 8.
HTC's Windows Phone 8 roadmap: 'Zenith' flagship, 'Accord' midrange, and 'Rio' entry-level models
Not sure if I believe this, but sounds kind of drool worthy. Don't know why they'd step back from Titan II on the camera though, guess its the same as the One X
Not sure if I believe this, but sounds kind of drool worthy. Don't know why they'd step back from Titan II on the camera though, guess its the same as the One X
Anton Sugar
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The new tiles will work for me if they're arranged into a rectangular pattern. For example, these are all fine (I actually really like the middle one):
But these two are just horrible:
I'm bummed about the loss of the right margin but I also understand that it was a requirement for the quarter tiles to work properly on smaller screens.
Agreed. I'm still torn on the new Start screen, but I think it could solve some problems for me.
My Start Screen is pretty much reserved for apps with live tiles that I use a lot. However, there are a number of apps that don't have live tiles (Youtube, Netflix, Amazon, Amazon Kindle, etc.) that I still use pretty frequently, but didn't want to waste the real estate on because it was just a huge icon with no information being delivered. Smaller tiles will help solve that.
I think "Metro" gets lost if you just turn the tiles into "icons". I mainly use them for quick delivery of information/notification to check it, so having a sea of icons would make WP pretty boring. However...to each their own. Clearly it's not an issue for most consumers.
brotkasten
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Nothing cool is ever available in the UK.
More importantly:
That pretty much kills any "old phones don't have enough RAM" argument.
Zune is dead only in that the brand is changing, but the desktop software still exists and functions. It's possible they could change the branding on the app in pre-Windows 8 machines, and they may need to in order to support the Xbox Music marketplace, but we'll have to wait and see on that.
When I look at the screen with small icons it seems to display a similar amount of random stuff that Windows 8 does. It is something like in between the clean WP7 look and someone having an explosion of 50 icons on their Windows desktop. The fact is however that people probably tended to never swipe to list all apps, I never do it myself and the apps which I dont have pinned I just forget about.
No one ever talks about actually using their WP7...people coming into this thread probably have the Grandpa Simpson syndrome.
Anyway - I have been enjoying games I thought I wouldn't the most on WP7 lately - Battleship! Salvo mode is fun.
Also Shuffle Party - still trying to get all the stars on challenges.
Also playing an evil F2P Bug Village I am playing almost out of spite to try to get all the achievements without paying a dime, but it got bugged (no pun intended) and the stinkbugs and ant lions stopped appearing so I am not very happy.
geoDefense Swarm is haaaaaaard...I might have one of the highest scores in the world on the infinite Hard level, I thought my phone was going to melt the level played out for so long.
No one ever talks about actually using their WP7...people coming into this thread probably have the Grandpa Simpson syndrome.
Anyway - I have been enjoying games I thought I wouldn't the most on WP7 lately - Battleship! Salvo mode is fun.
Also Shuffle Party - still trying to get all the stars on challenges.
Also playing an evil F2P Bug Village I am playing almost out of spite to try to get all the achievements without paying a dime, but it got bugged (no pun intended) and the stinkbugs and ant lions stopped appearing so I am not very happy.
geoDefense Swarm is haaaaaaard...I might have one of the highest scores in the world on the infinite Hard level, I thought my phone was going to melt the level played out for so long.
That's only because there is nothing to complain about. ;-)
Kamakazie!
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Of course it's commercial. I guarantee that Nokia will put out phones with lower performance than the 710 / 800 / 900 next year. Afterall they keep banging on about working with MS to offer cheaper phones especially in emerging markets.
Not all that bothered though thinking more about how I use the phone. I would like the IE10 type improvements on here though. The browser is a massive back step after using xscope on my HTC desire.
On a side note, can anyone recommend some good free & paid games?
I'd like some more information on the integration of apps like Skype. From what I understand any VoIP app can neatly integrate into the system. I'm wondering if that includes chat apps. So e.g. will WhatsApp (no VoIP, but chat) be able to integrate itself into the OS i.e. into the messaging app?
That would be pretty amazing and would allow Windows Phone to basically have the best version of any chat service.
That would be pretty amazing and would allow Windows Phone to basically have the best version of any chat service.
Correct me if I am wrong. Is Neogaf one of the biggest Windows Phone community? Or one of the most active?
Back in the day when I migrated from SA, SA had way more tech related threads. It still has but it slowed down so what. I just checked the WP7 thread on Somethingawful, it barely had 3 pages of discussion on WP8 news. I checked Arstechnica, the discussion quota is similar. (The other photography forum I hang out in does have more new WP8 threads but they are all threads making fun of Nokia. It make sense since this photography forum is gear alot older.)
So I ask you, WP experts, not counting the "WP websites", is GAF one of the most active WP7 community among the general discussion boards?
Back in the day when I migrated from SA, SA had way more tech related threads. It still has but it slowed down so what. I just checked the WP7 thread on Somethingawful, it barely had 3 pages of discussion on WP8 news. I checked Arstechnica, the discussion quota is similar. (The other photography forum I hang out in does have more new WP8 threads but they are all threads making fun of Nokia. It make sense since this photography forum is gear alot older.)
So I ask you, WP experts, not counting the "WP websites", is GAF one of the most active WP7 community among the general discussion boards?
Vanillalite
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Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
yea...well... we never wanted you anyways....jerk.
dude. what?
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also did you check reddit? dunno if they're still active though.
Myth Defense:LF
If you aren't already sick of TD games, MD:LF is a steampunk-meets-Fieldrunners clone with high production values. It's pricey, though, at 4 bucks.
If you aren't already sick of TD games, MD:LF is a steampunk-meets-Fieldrunners clone with high production values. It's pricey, though, at 4 bucks.
Kamakazie!
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Not a good set of recommendations then?
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
no we're just teasing SCHUEY for quoting the wrong person.
Kamakazie!
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Ah ok, thanks.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I got every achievement in that game. Nothing I'm too proud off, and I also bought some stuff. I felt bad for paying at first, but I played that game for months every day so I dont feel bad that I threw the devs some money. Its still my most played game ever on windows phone. I can't play complicated games on a touch screen.
http://wmpoweruser.com/huawei-announces-ascend-windows-phone-8-handset/
the start menu looks 100 times better than what they showed at the conference
the start menu looks 100 times better than what they showed at the conference
Complex Shadow
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http://wmpoweruser.com/huawei-announces-ascend-windows-phone-8-handset/
the start menu looks 100 times better than what they showed at the conference
it looks like a mess/the nexus with buttons.
Anton Sugar
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Tada!
I really don't mind the absence of the dead space on the right--it looks just as good as the original.
They're trying to expand their audience. If more options equals more marketshare...there's nothing for us to complain about.
I really don't mind the absence of the dead space on the right--it looks just as good as the original.
They're trying to expand their audience. If more options equals more marketshare...there's nothing for us to complain about.
Well this is a work for XDA!!! I'm sure they can make it work, and I could find a Lumia 800/900 for second handset.
I miss so much being in WP =(
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Tada!
I really don't mind the absence of the dead space on the right--it looks just as good as the original.
They're trying to expand their audience. If more options equals more marketshare...there's nothing for us to complain about.
The base icons look weird now for things like phone because the square's got bigger but the stuff inside seems to still be fitted for the old size.
God damn
Tada!
I really don't mind the absence of the dead space on the right--it looks just as good as the original.
They're trying to expand their audience. If more options equals more marketshare...there's nothing for us to complain about.
Dat tile size.
Speaking of innocent misquotes.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I'm pretty sure it's an innocent misquote by Copernicus, but that first statement is from Kevin Shields, not Elop.
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