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Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Makoto

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Well, they do actually take that asthetic with the OP. That's why there's film grain and 'shaky' camera work - it's meant to be shot through Kaito's camera.

Also, that shot of the film strip bothers me because all the Ichika's on all the pieces of the film strip move at the same time, when actually each of them should be a separate still that's slightly different to the one before it.
The problem I have is that they took the film grain and camera work but just applied it to the typical, "main/supporting characters sitting/standing in random settings and locales and doing stuff," thing that OPs usually do. I also don't agree with the color tone changes. The whole OP after the first 5 seconds just seems unremarkable to me.
 

Jex

Member
Kaiji 1

These are certainly some stylized characters. I dig the concept of the show although the game itself seems almost a letdown. I look forward to being proven wrong though.

Let's just say I look forward to your later impressions.
 

Jex

Member
Hated K-On, passing on Hyouka. Total consistency here!

I am such a hipster when it comes to KyoAni

Why do you hate great animation?
She said that she was using ideas from everyone on the staff, actually.

Totally not her fault.
The problem I have is that they took the film grain and camera work but just applied it to the typical, "main/supporting characters sitting/standing in random settings and locales and doing stuff," thing that OPs usually do. I also don't agree with the color tone changes. The whole OP after the first 5 seconds just seems unremarkable to me.

I never said it was a good OP - it's not.
 

zeroshiki

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The best shrine scene ever is clearly Bakemonogatarai.

To this day, I have no clue wtf happened there since they didn't really show anything.
 

wonzo

Banned
HidaSketch 4

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Ah yes. Who could possibly forget the influential 80's UK Ska band The Fold Ball and their number #1 hit "Sticking to".

NSFW official site for new Lupin the Third TV series: http://lupin40.com/tv/

NSFW full image: http://lupin40.com/tv/images/teaser/back.jpg

Expanded staff:

Director: Sayo Yamamoto
Character Design/Animation Director: Takeshi Koike
Series Composition: Mari Okada

Prop Design: You Moriyama
Art Director: Seiki Tamura
Color Setting: Takahiro Mogi
Director of Photography: Toyonori Yamada
Editing: Tomoki Nagasaka
Sound Director: Youji Shimizu
looks like this will definitely be the first lupin related thing i've watched that isnt cagliostro.
 
Majikoi 10 - So I decided to finally get around to watching the last few episodes of this show, but watching this reminded me exactly of why I'd stopped -- this show is a pretty bad action/drama. It can be a funny and entertaining harem comedy series, but once it goes to action or drama, it just starts falling apart. This was true from episode one, which was all-action and not very good, and is still true here. This episode is bad.

Unfortunately, the people making this don't seem to realize how big of a disparity there is, so there's a LOT of action/drama stuff in this series, which means a lot of subpar episodes like this one. And that really is too bad; more of this show should be like episode six, less like episode ten.

As for the plot of this episode, here the girls (and the MC) face off against the main two villain girls. The lead girl is fighting the strong villain girl, while the MC and the other four try to beat the other girl, Saki. The fights are about on par for this series -- that is, they struggle to be minimally interesting. In addition, unfortunately, the four secondary girls are utterly incompetent as usual, and get destroyed in notime. The MC tries to help out, semi-successfully, but in the end only outside intervention saves the whole group from getting blown away. Why are the four of them so incompetent? Aren't they supposed to be at least somewhat strong? They can beat weak enemies, but against anyone good they fold. It's kind of stupid. It's one of the many reasons this episode is bad.

This episode also has a subplot, where we learn some of the backstory of the two villains here. It's a generic tale of betrayal and the revenge they want on those who they feel betrayed them. These parts aren't particularly well shot, so the point is kind of muddled, but it sort of comes across. It's nothing particularly interesting, though, like most of this episode.

In the end, the MC is knocked out, somehow. I didn't notice him ever actually get hit, only threatened, but he's unconcious at the end and the girls are all worried about him, so I guess he was hurt or something. Yeah, these action episodes leave a lot to be desired in clarity and competence for sure. The scene that finishes off the episode, of the lead girl's breakdown of sorts, isn't any better either.

I may finish this show (probably will), but I really hope the last two episodes aren't as disappointing as this one.


B Gata H Kei 1-3 - I've read the whole manga series, and enjoyed it, so I decided to check out the anime adaptation. It doesn't cover all of the material from the manga, and there unfortunately isn't a second season, but so far at least, what is here is quite solid. The characters and situations are a lot like the manga, but animated. This series is not quite as good as, say, Seitokai Yakuindomo, but it is decently funny at times, and the cast and concept are entertaining.

My main criticism would be that despite the somewhat over-the-top basic concept, about how Yamada wants 100 sex partners in high school, it ends up being more generic than you'd expect. Yamada has big thoughts, but is much shyer in person; this is okay, and keeps things going much longer than they otherwise would, but the show has bigger problems. One would be that the series has some unnecessary harem elements as well (and she's not the one with the harem). Also, it's yet another "super attractive girl with random loser" show, except from the girl's perspective here. It does manage to make some of the stereotypes funny -- like, how Miyano (his childhood friend) clearly likes the male lead but neither he nor his sister realize it -- but still... it'd have been better without the harem, really. And also, Yamada's reason for wanting him as a partner and not other guys is vaguely plausible, but it sure is a convenient way to have yet another generic, bland male lead be paired with a beauty, that's for sure -- and that's an overdone anime trope if there's ever been one. The series keeps going back and forth between following these anime conventions and playing with them, and I wish the series had less of the former. The series is funny, yes, but I do have issues with some elements of the concept.

Despite these issues, however, it is funny enough within the episodes to be worth watching, even if conceptually I wish they'd been a bit more original. It's too bad the anime doesn't finish the manga material. These three were mostly amusing stuff.


I've also been watching the R-15 BDs. I don't usually do this for shows I've watched before, but eh... I am this time. It's still a good show, except uncensored now. I've watched eps 1-4 so far. I'm sure I'll continue, I am enjoying it enough to keep rewatching. And I know I said it when I first watched it, but I really wish that clarinet girl knew more than one song before the final episode... I know she practices a lot, but seriously, why does it have to always be the same music?? Oh well... it's a good harem show anyway.

Miami Guns is a gem in my collection. Its amazing. One of the funniest shows ever.

Apart from episode five, I'll probably agree with you.

Is that the show AnimeNation brought to the US when they dabbled in that for a bit?

Yeah, it is.
 

Steroyd

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This makes me sad.
I bet he took her pudding too.

also, BRS is definitely on my watch list for the hnnng.
However it has to share time with Chihayafuru and ano Natsu
And those have to compete with Code Geass R2.
Decisions....

BRS is 8 episodes with the main character voiced by Hnngazawa, get ontop of this shit man!
 

Kagami

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B Gata H Kei 1-3
My main criticism would be that despite the somewhat over-the-top basic concept, about how Yamada wants 100 sex partners in high school, it ends up being more generic than you'd expect. Yamada has big thoughts, but is much shyer in person; this is okay, and keeps things going much longer than they otherwise would, but the show has bigger problems. One would be that the series has some unnecessary harem elements as well (and she's not the one with the harem). Also, it's yet another "super attractive girl with random loser" show, except from the girl's perspective here. It does manage to make some of the stereotypes funny -- like, how Miyano (his childhood friend) clearly likes the male lead but neither he nor his sister realize it -- but still... it'd have been better without the harem, really. And also, Yamada's reason for wanting him as a partner and not other guys is vaguely plausible, but it sure is a convenient way to have yet another generic, bland male lead be paired with a beauty, that's for sure -- and that's an overdone anime trope if there's ever been one. The series keeps going back and forth between following these anime conventions and playing with them, and I wish the series had less of the former. The series is funny, yes, but I do have issues with some elements of the concept.
I found Yamada's struggle with envisioning herself smoothly accomplishing something, and then when she actually goes to do it, winding up thinking "oh god I can't do this, abort! abort!!" to be generally relatable and funny.

I didn't really take these "anime conventions" the way you did.
Kosuda's harem, if we want to call it that, exists as obstacles for Yamada, not an experience for Kosuda. And
him being an ordinary boy is part of the comedic contrast between Yamada's imagined super-playgirl self and the awkward first romance she actually experiences. She can't even successfully seduce this nobody.
Yamada's the focus of the story, and Kosuda just plays straight-man to her.
What kind of replacement for Kosuda would you have in mind? He needs to (a) not hook up with any other girls, (b) not be able to read Yamada's signals, (c) not be confident enough to persistently take initiative himself, (d) be intrigued/desperate enough to be willing to put up with Yamada's nonsense instead of blowing her off after a couple of weeks, and (e) not upstage Yamada.

I see how he can also be expected to serve as a self-insert character, but it seems like more of a side-thing than the main point. We don't see his point of view all that much, except to provide humorous contrast with Yamada's.
 

wonzo

Banned
Glass Fleet: The Legend of the Wind of the Universe 9


"I can feel it. A strange wind." - Cleo of the Wind

i give the costume designs in this episode:

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The galaxy in revolution. Renaissance.
 

cajunator

Banned
I think I said it already, but Ano Hana's failings were almost entirely via its writing

Not entirely but....

A rewatch of the first episode of Puella Magi Madoka Magica but with the English dub.

The episode itself:

:( at
Homura

Kyubey
is a punk.

:( at
Mami telling Homura to get lost.

:( at
At the manipulation these girls are about to receive.

Having finished the series prior, this episode was by no means boring to watch.

As for the dub:

The lip syncing is excellent and the dialogue delivery is good. I was extremely worried about the dub when I saw the first trailer for it, but as I've learned with this and other series, trailers are never an indication of the quality of the dub and this remains the case with Madoka. I do have to say though, the girls sound older than they should be. Madoka's voice will take the most getting used to. With that being said, I certainly wouldn't mind revisiting the series with the dub.

I'll check this out a little later since I have volume 1.

Well, the direction was at fault sometimes. Like during the shrine scene.

Yes this too. The direction and writing were pretty weak and disjointed. Even I can see that and as I discussed a little earlier it lost sight of what could have made the hsow better. I still enjoyed the show anyway, because my mind has this amazing ability to cull through all the bullshit and see just the good stuff (the ai yori Aoshi effect)

The problem I have is that they took the film grain and camera work but just applied it to the typical, "main/supporting characters sitting/standing in random settings and locales and doing stuff," thing that OPs usually do. I also don't agree with the color tone changes. The whole OP after the first 5 seconds just seems unremarkable to me.

While a film effect would have been creative and interesting, such a pattern might wear thin if used he entire show. Also, Kino's journey is a show I remember some people having trouble with visually because it used a pattern overlay that distracted some people from enjoying the artwork.



A scheduler huh? Disappointment.

Charles is NEVER disappointing!!!

Holy Clamproportions Batman!

Literally the first thing I thought when I saw this. then I was drawn to her nips. Oh well.

This should be the Spring 2012 banner:

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OMFG YES. Please put this in the OP miri!

K-On!! 16



being azunyan
the worst character
is suffering


you bet!

Azu sucks. Even with her cat ears. OK so that part is cute. but she's kind of boring compared to the rest.
 

Steroyd

Member
Yes this too. The direction and writing were pretty weak and disjointed. Even I can see that and as I discussed a little earlier it lost sight of what could have made the hsow better. I still enjoyed the show anyway, because my mind has this amazing ability to cull through all the bullshit and see just the good stuff (the ai yori Aoshi effect)

While my ability to do that is on a lesser level than yours I do that myself, however the problem I feel with Ano Hana is that you could cull 8 out of the 11 episodes and it wouldn't feel like you missed anything, and considering that it was one big contiunous show that's just piss poor.

Azu sucks. Even with her cat ears. OK so that part is cute. but she's kind of boring compared to the rest.

It's what happens when you put the straight man in a non comedy, and why Shinpachi from Gintama is only known for his glasses. :lol
 

cajunator

Banned
Yeah, Ai Yori Aoshi is like that too, where you could pull entire episodes and portions out and just watch the romantic parts and get a pretty nice watch out of it, but overall its just weakly held together with a bunch of filler and harem shit. It was likely done in AYA to sell more figures and merchandise, but it still felt a cheap gimmick distraction in an otherwise good little romance show. Tina is pretty awesome though and I had a soft spot for Mayu, so the show wasnt all that bad. In ano Hana's case though, aside from Anaru and Mena, you couldnt really market those characters much as figures and the merchandising potential overall is pretty low so that was pretty much just poorly conceived filler.
 

cajunator

Banned
Azu-nyan is at her best when a) suffering or b) being mischievous

Well, you're correct about that much. Although that's pretty much the only way to actually get a reaction out of Azu in the first place. She is the quintessential moeblob. moeblobs need to actually be slightly interesting as a character and not just hnnngbait, even for me.
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Well, you're correct about that much. Although that's pretty much the only way to actually get a reaction out of Azu in the first place. She is the quintessential moeblob. moeblobs need to actually be slightly interesting as a character and not just hnnngbait, even for me.

You'd think that Mio was already pure moeblob, yet Azunyan manages to even overtake her in sheer moeblob-ness.
 

cajunator

Banned

Its true, man. There are a million moeblobs out there. I have to differentiate them somehow. There really is no reason for a character to exist, even a really hNNNNG one if they contribute absolutely nothing to the story. Ritsu and Yui are like a million times better anyway while still being HNNNG.
 
NSFW official site for new Lupin the Third TV series: http://lupin40.com/tv/

NSFW full image: http://lupin40.com/tv/images/teaser/back.jpg

Absolutely loving that style. It's hard to see, but good ol' Zenigata in the background looks like the 2011 Pachinko version and not the "dat face" Zenigata from the promo poster. I just seriously hope this doesn't become Naked Fujiko: The Series though. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but it's the humour as well as the daring escapades that makes Lupin for me, and I'm hoping they keep it in.

Looks like it's getting people interested though. Just out of interest, is anybody watching this who hasn't seen any Lupin material before? (Besides Cagliosto, that is.)
 

Envelope

sealed with a kiss
Its true, man. There are a million moeblobs out there. I have to differentiate them somehow. There really is no reason for a character to exist, even a really hNNNNG one if they contribute absolutely nothing to the story. Ritsu and Yui are like a million times better anyway while still being HNNNG.

Nodoka > Ritsu > the rest of the K-ons > Azunyan.

Search within your heart, you know it to be true.
 
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