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Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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madp

The Light of El Cantare
Jexhius said:
Well, it's not like there are many places left to go with mechanical design that are completely 'out there'. After four decades of creations, of all shapes, scales, textures and aesthetics it's pretty difficult to be 'wholly original'.
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I don't think that anyone expects anything new necessarily, just good design.

And by good I mean 2D.
 
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Mecha

Member
Jexhius said:
Well, it's not like there are many places left to go with mechanical design that are completely 'out there'. After four decades of creations, of all shapes, scales, textures and aesthetics it's pretty difficult to be 'wholly original'.
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Sure, I'm just saying TTGL isn't sort of grand example of unique mecha design. Mecha designers do "go outside the box", they don't need follow TTGL to do that.

I might sound like I dislike TTGL or something from these remarks, but I don't.
 
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cajunator

Banned
3D designs can be ok. The modelling in BRS for example is pretty damned great.
However, a tool is nothing without creativity behind it, and there seems to be a dearth of it. I know that there are still tons of talented artists out there, so where the fuck did they all go?
 
Jex

Jex

Member
trejo said:
Are we pretending not to be on the Nisemonogatari train now?
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I'm not even pretending. I've seen a handful of trashy shows and written about them at length, at LENGTH, so I assumed it would be obvious that I wasn't being serious.
 
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cajunator

Banned
Textbook tsundere right here folks.
TEXTBOOK.

what horrible show can we hook Jex on next and further his descent to the mustache kingdom?
 
Jex

Jex

Member
Mecha said:
Sure, I'm just saying TTGL isn't sort of grand example of unique mecha design. Mecha designers do "go outside the box", they don't need follow TTGL to do that.

I might sound like I dislike TTGL or something from these remarks, but I don't.
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Hater.
Mad Pierrot said:
I don't think that anyone expects anything new necessarily, just good design.

And by good I mean 2D.
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Then they expect too much.
 
Jex

Jex

Member
cajunator said:
3D designs can be ok. The modelling in BRS for example is pretty damned great.
However, a tool is nothing without creativity behind it, and there seems to be a dearth of it. I know that there are still tons of talented artists out there, so where the fuck did they all go?
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It's called video games. They better money.
 
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cajunator

Banned
I do appreciate ACTUAL characters. they are better than those invasive species of useless filler characters I must admit. But HNNNG is of utmost importance. That aspect MUST be upheld.
 
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Envelope

sealed with a kiss
cajunator said:
I do appreciate ACTUAL characters. they are better than those invasive species of useless filler characters I must admit. But HNNNG is of utmost importance. That aspect MUST be upheld.
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Then why aren't you watching Inu X Boku? Surely you saw the post on the last page? Now imagine 9 episodes filled with that and similar hnnnngh.
 
Jex

Jex

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So called 'trashy shows' can be worth your time if they are exceedingly bad, to the point where they stand head and shoulders above other works in the same field. That's actually fair hard to achieve, because most bad shows just tend to end up as boring instead of amazing.
 
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cajunator

Banned
Envelope said:
Then why aren't you watching Inu X Boku? Surely you saw the post on the last page? Now imagine 9 episodes filled with that and similar hnnnngh.
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Oh I saw it. I SAW IT.
And I'm going to hook that shit up to my veins very soon.
Its gonna be a Redline/Inu X Boku kind of night here.
 
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Envelope

sealed with a kiss
trejo said:
This is what liking K-On ultimately leads to. Let this be a lesson.
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I resent your insinuations about people who like K-on. :(

Jexhius said:
So called 'trashy shows' can be worth your time if they are exceedingly bad, to the point where they stand head and shoulders above other works in the same field. That's actually fair hard to achieve, because most bad shows just tend to end up as boring instead of amazing.
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I take it you are watching BRS, then?
 
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/XX/

Member
Branduil said:
Well, I didn't mean to connect "mundane" and "boring." My point is you can have good, interesting protagonists with mundane jobs, and bad, boring protagonists with incredibly interesting jobs. It's about the inner life and development of the character, not their outer circumstances.
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Agreed. My post was like that because of the impressions I recollect from Mr. Miyazaki's opinion, and I took the word you used to continue with the discussion (I probably should have quoted his text itself).

Mecha said:
Sure, I'm just saying TTGL isn't sort of grand example of unique mecha design.
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It is precisely because it goes beyond what many would do now in incorporating cues from many sources, without being strident. Like an homage and labor of love, I think it is an inspired work because retains many things from those four decades that Jexhius mentioned, and makes it fresh and well thought.
 
Ultimadrago

Ultimadrago

Member
Victorique is the tsundere loli the world needs, but does not deserve.


Jexhius said:
So called 'trashy shows' can be worth your time if they are exceedingly bad, to the point where they stand head and shoulders above other works in the same field. That's actually fair hard to achieve, because most bad shows just tend to end up as boring instead of amazing.
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Yes, amazingly terrible shows are quite the rare flower.
 
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cajunator

Banned
Victorique was cute but ultimately forgettable.
The show in general was pretty much, which is a shame. So much hnnng potential wasted.

As for amazingly terrible shows even BRS is falling short of that, but it has potential.
There is really nothing right now that quite lives up to the legendary status of our evergreens.
 
Ultimadrago

Ultimadrago

Member
trejo said:
This is what liking K-On ultimately leads to. Let this be a lesson.
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One for the books, at that!

Branduil said:
Boring?
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Eh, I'd argue that her situation wouldn't naturally build up to a jam packed personality.

cajunator said:
Victorique was cute but ultimately forgettable.
The show in general was pretty much, which is a shame. So much hnnng potential wasted.
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Too much hnnng would've been like adding a gallon of water to a small packet of Kool-Aid! (Erm, maybe I should switch that around)
 
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cajunator

Banned
It's not that the show was that bad, it was just dull. The mysterious and such oftentimes were not all that hard to figure out and a lot of the tension and intrigue was sucked right out along with it.
 
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dakkumauji

Member
Ah My Goddess OAV 04
I get it that they only had 5 episodes planned out for the OAV, so I can see why they couldn't do all fun and happy episodes. But, wow, wasn't this episode extremely dramatic. It totally feels different from what I'm used to from this series which is fun little episodes sprinkled with will they ever do something, but wow, total opposite direction with everyone being sad. :[
 
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Novid

Banned
Jexhius said:
I can't say that I'm a fan of the high-priced physical media angle, especially as it means I simply wouldn't buy a lot of stuff, but it seems to be the most successful model for now.
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in every other nation that has a media this is called a suicide.
 
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chickdigger802

Banned
Inu X Boku Fanservice 09

To much hnnngh. Got a new avatar from the first few min =)

And some gif for gaf.

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NewFresh

Member
/XX/ said:
On that matter... what characters do you guys consider good in a bad show? Show me your examples!

Are invalid the typical secondary type that appears only a couple of minutes, please.
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I was going to say God in Maria Holic, but that doesn't fit your criteria. Hmmmm.. recently I would say Madoka in Rinne No Lagrange; however, I've only seen up to episode 3 and have no desire in seeing any more.

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cajunator

Banned
It is a creative way to describe the situations in that show for certain.

I'm not familiar enough with the show itself though to understand quite what he means by using that particular term.
 
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