Haha, that's some Marxist frustration in the second quote. It's obviously true that anime does a bad job of developing good protagonists most of the time. That's true of most mediums.
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Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator
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Haha, that's some Marxist frustration in the second quote. It's obviously true that anime does a bad job of developing good protagonists most of the time. That's true of most mediums.
Jex
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1988. I assume he means that the characters have no reason to do what they do beside the fact that it is their role - but we're not given a reason for them to be in that role. I trimmed the quote somewhat.
You can say the same for a lot of actual real people too. Not everybody is a multilayered person with reasons for everything.
Jex
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Er, I think your understanding of how many hours are in a day might be off a little.
Denpa Onna = MILFs and futons.
I suppose its success wasn't enough to inspire the already-dying genre to take more risks with its mecha designs.
Jex
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Well, I'm not really elaborating or defending his assertion in that essay, I'm just reproducing it.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Stellvia of the Universe 9
Hahaha
hahaha I guess that means Stellvia wins the Astroball tournament! Wait what? When did this show start to get serious? I didn't skip an episode did I? 9 comes after 8. Was there an 8.5 which was a stereotypical anime onsen episode set to the backdrop of a
? Or maybe I've just been trolled. All this happy atmosphere and light hearted character banter has been setting us all up for the fall.
The people of "Somewhere in Japan" look on with nonchalance at the impending devestation.
So I mean really, we start the episode by learning that
This SHAFT headtilt brought to you in glorious forced 16:9
It's not all doom and gloom though, instead (to my relief) Stellvia retreats to it's more familiar territory of coming of age themes, comedy, romance and of course, character development.
This whole episode could almost be the stereotypical "night before", but in typical Stellvia fashion it's really an episode to itself. Shima's tears, a standard already, were there in droves. Her confidence built, she's ready for the Great Mission and so am I! Let's do this! Cue end credits. Ok maybe it was a stereotypical "night before" episode, but I enjoyed it anyway. Also we had the first murmurings of
If AnimeGAF has taught me anything it's don't play the shipping game and if you do, don't play it with Chihayafuru. This time round though, it should be fairly easy. What's the worst that could happen? For now, there's bigger fish to fry and for the first time this show ends with a cliffhanger. Bring it on.
Hahaha
Ultima got destroyed by deadly radiation from an exploding star!
neighboring star going supernova
The people of "Somewhere in Japan" look on with nonchalance at the impending devestation.
So I mean really, we start the episode by learning that
another radiation wave had obliterated Ultima. Thankfully the local resident hot chick Rinna (the one Haly watches porn of) had escaped an episode earlier to play space jousting with Shima. Not only that, but we learn that in TWO DAYS the fallout will reach Earth. Time for the "Great Mission"? Already? But uh...it's episode 9 guys, that can't be right?
Anyway, shit does indeed get serious and all of Stellvia locks down to prepare for shock from the impact etc. These exploding stars are apparently dangerous stuff, with explosions reminiscent of Captain Falcon defeating Black Shadow with a Falcon Punch that simultaneously destroyed the entire galaxy. The first wave from the star exploding (189 years previously) nearly destroyed all of humanity and it was only electromagnetic. Now the second wave will have er..."pieces of the star"...right...anyway...it'll be presumably more dangerous.
The plan for Stellvia is to prepare and maintain a barrier over themselves, the Earth and Luna. A last line of defense, if you will. To add to the dramatic effect, this episode intermitently reminds you how long till it all goes down. It's actually really effective.
Anyway, shit does indeed get serious and all of Stellvia locks down to prepare for shock from the impact etc. These exploding stars are apparently dangerous stuff, with explosions reminiscent of Captain Falcon defeating Black Shadow with a Falcon Punch that simultaneously destroyed the entire galaxy. The first wave from the star exploding (189 years previously) nearly destroyed all of humanity and it was only electromagnetic. Now the second wave will have er..."pieces of the star"...right...anyway...it'll be presumably more dangerous.
The plan for Stellvia is to prepare and maintain a barrier over themselves, the Earth and Luna. A last line of defense, if you will. To add to the dramatic effect, this episode intermitently reminds you how long till it all goes down. It's actually really effective.
This SHAFT headtilt brought to you in glorious forced 16:9
It's not all doom and gloom though, instead (to my relief) Stellvia retreats to it's more familiar territory of coming of age themes, comedy, romance and of course, character development.
Shima and potential love interest Kouta are doing training in their Biancas of firing the field generators, or something. Anyway, Kouta does really well. Again. This guy is supremely talented but seemingly has a morbid fear of anyone finding out.
Buckling under pressure, Shima is Shima and messes up. She gets down about it, of course and phones her family. It's an emotional call, with equally emotional music. I've not really commented on the music so far, but it's been really good and always appropriate. Her family are preparing to move into bunkers and are all too aware of the danger Shima is in. She tries to keep smiling though and tells them to call her the day after tomorrow. Smooth.
Buckling under pressure, Shima is Shima and messes up. She gets down about it, of course and phones her family. It's an emotional call, with equally emotional music. I've not really commented on the music so far, but it's been really good and always appropriate. Her family are preparing to move into bunkers and are all too aware of the danger Shima is in. She tries to keep smiling though and tells them to call her the day after tomorrow. Smooth.
This whole episode could almost be the stereotypical "night before", but in typical Stellvia fashion it's really an episode to itself. Shima's tears, a standard already, were there in droves. Her confidence built, she's ready for the Great Mission and so am I! Let's do this! Cue end credits. Ok maybe it was a stereotypical "night before" episode, but I enjoyed it anyway. Also we had the first murmurings of
Shima's romantic feelings for Captain Awesome Kouta.
If AnimeGAF has taught me anything it's don't play the shipping game and if you do, don't play it with Chihayafuru. This time round though, it should be fairly easy. What's the worst that could happen? For now, there's bigger fish to fry and for the first time this show ends with a cliffhanger. Bring it on.
Sure they are, it's just that a lot of the time, the reasons are mundane.
Generally, though, you shouldn't use boring people as protagonists.
Neko Mimi Mode
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If I do it often enough you'll get used to it, then 4:3 anime just won't look right to you any more; a problem I live with every day. Misery loves company.
Jex
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But but Infinite Stratos.
KO Traveling Hobo
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The amazing thing isn't that he's boring, but both mind-numbingly stupid AND boring.
Is self-inflicted Stockholm Syndrome even possible?
Not really, I guess if you compare it to a Gundam it does but there are other mecha that look similar that came before it.
Jex
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Yet he sounds like he left a real impression on you!
Mundane people working on mundane projects for mundane spectators, with mundane protagonists in (sometimes) exciting situations... I see it as something normal if you want to connect with the viewer, to let identify themselves with the state of affairs.
The problem is that Mr. Miyazaki believes he is some kind of outcast from society, or something!
Holy shit you're right, Wednesday was such a forgettable day for me lol.
Well, I didn't mean to connect "mundane" and "boring." My point is you can have good, interesting protagonists with mundane jobs, and bad, boring protagonists with incredibly interesting jobs. It's about the inner life and development of the character, not their outer circumstances.
Ultimadrago
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I haven't left the asylum yet. That would add at least...7 more years mandatory stay.
Can't help but think Guilty Crown should be added somewhere in this list.
There's something to fit with it, but can't put a finger on it
RurouniZel
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N...nooooooooooo?
Actually no.
I had bought an electric toothbrush the day it aired, it felt so wrong that day.
Inu x Boku - 09
DEAR MOTHER OF GOD!!!
*Imagine hnngazawa's voice*
The Another hnng gif would be perfect for this, but here's a substitue.
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\(//∇//)\
☆*:.｡. o(≧▽≦
o .｡.:*☆I don't see a problem with current mecha designs, it's not like TTGL was "extremely original" or anything.
That looks pretty cool. What's it from?
i believe the quoted evidence in my last post clearly supports the existence of self-inflicted stockholm syndrome!
Reminds me of Chihayafuru being good despite Karuta, and Planetes being a great watch despite it basically being binmen in space.
Jex
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I think it's more to do with their hair. How spiky is it? How many colours does it contain? These are the important questions.
Jex
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Well to be fair they also
fight terrorists from time to time, and there's the whole Von Braun plot itself. Your point still stands though.
And pizza, even though that's hardly uncharted territory for anime fetishes.
He should at least be forced to have this avatar:
Sounds kinda like his movies for the past several years
Hellsing321
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Masochism.
Jex
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From numerous articles that I've read, old Miyazaki would not be a fan of new Miyazaki at all. In fact there are numerous times where he criticizes stuff that you'd find in Ponyo or Howl's Moving Castle.
Femmeworth
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That's some pretty nifty spritework there.
Neko Mimi Mode
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He should at least be forced to have this avatar:
My avatar would look like that if Cross Game wasn't already in native 16:9. I'd wear that like a boss.
Imagine if it actually was made by SHAFT. Almost every screenshot I post would be like that.
Jex
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I don't watch trashy shows so I wouldn't know anyway!
Not really, I guess if you compare it to a Gundam it does but there are other mecha that look similar that came before it.
Persönlichkeit <3
Are we pretending not to be on the Nisemonogatari train now?
Futons. Oh the futons.
I know, and this is a shame really. but its never too late for a company to be inspired by another work.
"I-It's not like I want to watch Nise, I just need to make sure it doesn't get too trashy, that's all!"
Jex
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Well, it's not like there are many places left to go with mechanical design that are completely 'out there'. After four decades of creations, of all shapes, scales, textures and aesthetics it's pretty difficult to be 'wholly original'.
He's so tsundere for it. It's adorable.
I'm ok with tsunderes by the way, as long as they arent Kugilolis.
I guess that schtick is just played out to the point where Im completely sick of it.
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