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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -4| It's not my fault!

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cajunator

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Is this Kodaka?
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Syrinx

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K-ON! 13

So this episode was just the girls doing their own thing for the most part.

Mio, how the hell did you think sitting by the shoreline in the middle of winter was going to be a good atmosphere for writing lyrics? You couldn't even keep your notebook on the same page, and every time you try to have a thought or idea, all you can think is "FUCK IT"S COLD!" Bad idea.

Ritsu thinks she got a love letter They were actually lyrics from Mio. Those lyrics kinda are strikingly about Ritsu, so I understand her confusion.

Mugi got a job. She was having way too much fun at first. Then she almost started crying cause she got an order wrong and bumped into a fellow worker and spilled a coke on her. Toughen up, Mugi. You're prolly gonna have to face some really obnoxious customers at some point.

Azusa was watching an adorable kitten. I nearly had a hnnnngggggg overload when the kitten was stretching out with her and then sat in her lap. I thought it just had a hairball (how do you not know that cats get hairballs, Azusa?), but I was still worried as fuck because it's a goddamn kitten.

Yui and Ui went shopping for sabe or something. Chocolate curry sounds nasty as fuck.
 

Steroyd

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Chihayafuru S2 - 01

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Rival Identified!!

To be honest, I was expecting a re-introduction of everyone just incase we had forgotten the first season for some reason, and I quite like how all that was to an effect thrown into the background (Chihaya's sister being a model, being group talk while things are moving along for example). So in effect it's carrying on as business as usual.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I can totally get where you're coming from on this. It can really be frustrating to see these characters putz about and never actually make moves, or worse they pull the old "for her sake, I'll keep my emotions bottled up inside because that'll make me such a tragic honorable guy!" bullshit. I guess not every show can have Kaito from Ano Natsu.
The big difference there is that, as an original show, the anime producers have no incentive or need to drag things out and offer a limp conclusion. The show doesn't need to go on forever because the manga or light novel needs to go on forever.

It then becomes a question of what anime is actually for - advertising for the franchise or an actual storytelling medium?

(I realize I'm a hypocrite of sorts, because I could make the same complaints about Gintama going no where for 250+ episodes but I don't. lol)

Oh come on, you are. You always are, you mention it every time you mention sports shows, just like you dismiss loads of shows with "syfy" and "phantasy" :p
I've *mostly* given up on expecting anime to meet the standards of even the worst American/British television these days. I think it was duckroll who said this, but if you are a talented writer, why would you waste your time with anime?
(American cartoons have the advantage of being created and written by decent comedians, so that seems to be the exception, but even then it's not like you'd see an American version of Wandering Son any time soon)

SyFy and Phatansy are just tautological shorthand though. It's easier than saying "jerked around for 6 years like Lost and BSG" or "3 hours of boredom like The Hobbit". lol

What is it you actually like about Chihayafuru, then? You seem to hate the sports cliches, and you really seem to dislike Taichi. What is it you find appealing about the show?
The first four episodes, which I felt was the biggest bait and switch I've experienced as an anime watcher. lol (Ginga e Kickoff sort of did that with the whole Nadeshiko Japan thing that opened that series).

Oh, and the music. I wish Chihayafuru was a show that could live up to the sweeping themes in the OST.

Because I suspect that's actually what most of the audience for it are really interested in, too.

The shounen sports cliches are a convenient, tension building framework on which to build the emotional content of the show - as with virtually any sports anime - and have universal appeal - to say that, say, Monkey Turn appeals only to speedboat "fetishists" seems a bit much, as even without specialist knowledge everyone can relate to competition, particularly if it's drawn/animated in a thrilling and interesting way. Chihayafuru's main distinguishing factor is that it's a josei sports show, and thus not only employs a different visual aesthetic to most sports shows but also means that the emotional content is more reflective of josei manga.

You're right that the show doesn't use sports as a backdrop to look at other issues, and that it's basically just presenting the same old stories but in a different way - one where the men and women are both beautiful and emotionally repressed, rather than whatever you get in shounen/seinen. But then that's why Chihayafuru is a smash hit manga that's run for 6 years or so, whereas Friday Night Lights had terrible ratings and ended up premiering its final few series on cable :p
I'll admit that I liked OoFuri because it was obsessed with baseball. In 26 episodes, they only played 2 baseball games. That means they animated all 9 innings of the 2 games that they showed. At the time, I thought it was an impressive achievement... but I really only need that experience one. I'd rather have character development, of any sort, than more sports playing. It's why I both ironically and unironically enjoy a show like Saki, because although the character development is fairly empty in terms of being actually meaningful and not just a vehicle for yuri fingersex, at least it exists at all.

Even the nearly insane twist that happens in the latter half of Cross Game is acceptable to me because, even though it makes absolutely no sense, at least the characters are forced to react in meaningful ways that are more important than whether or not they make it to the Koshien or not.

And hey, if we go by popularity and ratings, NCIS is the best show on American television and The Wire is the worst show HBO ever made. :p

On a less snippy note, however, I'll be interested to see what you think of March Comes In Like A Lion when it inevitably gets animated. Admittedly I'm a total fanboy for Chica Umino's work, but it's much more "a story about someone who plays sport" than "a story about the sport" in my mind. Probably not in the way you want it to be - it's heavy on introspection and relationship/personal drama, rather than examining wider issues - but it's not your typical sports story IMO.
I'm all for stories about people who play sports. ESPN's 30 for 30 series is an amazing treasure trove of fascinating sports stories. I didn't even know there was a transgender tennis player that sort of set the standard for transgender rights in sports until I watched Renee - and they managed to tell an interesting sports story without relying on dozens of hours of tennis footage to pad out the length. :p

I really wonder how much of this comes down to the financial reality of the manga/light novel world. In the same way that shitty harems are shitty because they have to go for 50 volumes and no one can progress as a character until the finale volume, maybe sports books have to rely on detail and (presumed) verisimilitude because that's a surefire way to take a story that maybe could be told in 5 volumes and stretch it out to 20 volumes.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware

Syrinx

Member
Now that I'm done with Season 1 of K-ON! I might start to address my backlog a bit. Maybe I'll watch Heartcatch Precure. Or maybe I'll take on something else like Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, though I'd rather wait to finish Cowboy Bebop or Darker Than Black before starting that. Maybe Revolutionary Girl Utena, but probably not yet.

I'll figure something out. Maybe I'll just keep on watching what I've got and then start with a sort of clean slate.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
They are all socially inept so they form a club together or something to suffer in the company of each other. That's the story right?

Yeah. I didn't catch the end of season 1 though so I dunno if they were better by the end or not.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
The big difference there is that, as an original show, the anime producers have no incentive or need to drag things out and offer a limp conclusion. The show doesn't need to go on forever because the manga or light novel needs to go on forever.

It then becomes a question of what anime is actually for - advertising for the franchise or an actual storytelling medium?

(I realize I'm a hypocrite of sorts, because I could make the same complaints about Gintama going no where for 250+ episodes but I don't. lol)

Me more than you. 600+ Detective Conan and counting. XD

But yeah, it's sad that most shows these days can only get funding if it's basically advertising for a never-ending manga/light novel. :/
 
Tamako Market 1
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Please do, or eat him.
It's an ok beginning of what could be a good show. I suppose it's a little hard to make an introduction to what I'm guessing to be a rather complete ensemble cast. None of the characters seem to get much spot light outside of Tamako and the annoying bird. Still, the premise is still interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing what goes on with Tamako and her friends. Midori is my favorite so far, of what we've seen of her anyways. Tamako herself so far is just like her K-ON! expy, Mugi from the first season. I might end up liking her more, but so far she's been kinda so-so.
Now the bird. He's just as bad as I thought he was going to be.
I hope at the end of all this they roast him and eat him.
I hope he gets better than just some loser that goes beyond just having a stupid name.
Not the best thing ever, but I liked it for the most part. I'm sticking with it.
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Why is the gradeschooler less clothed than the highschooler? Damn you KyoAni. I hope they get to the summer season quick!
 

Sora_N

Member
Hi AnimeGAF, well I have not really enjoyed a show fully since the first Haganai lol.

Thinking of jumping back briefly for:
Minami-ke Tadaima
Senran Kagura
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT
Tamako Market
Sasami-san
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Hi AnimeGAF, well I have not really enjoyed a show fully since the first Boku Tomo lol.

Thinking of jumping back briefly for:
Minami-ke Tadaima
Senran Kagura
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT
Tamako Market
Sasami-san
all shit, you should join us for backlog season instead
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
That's why they can't make friends!
Yep, they are all horrible!

They are all socially inept so they form a club together or something to suffer in the company of each other. That's the story right?
Pretty much. lol

Me more than you. 600+ Detective Conan and counting. XD

But yeah, it's sad that most shows these days can only get funding if it's basically advertising for a never-ending manga/light novel. :/
Yeah. Some original anime seems to hit some measure of success, but that doesn't seem to encourage anyone to do more of it. lol

Sasami 1:
Anime is saved/dead.
Zombie anime.
 
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