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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -5| This is stupid, kayos90 sucks!
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Kanna is best girl. Midori dresses like a mom.
Hmmmm, I wonder who I would be shipped with? Perhaps... I'm unshippable.
Chet Rippo
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That makes her better.
Marriage is just a legal contract! You know it doesn't mean anything!
To be fair, they are still transitioning to Korean animators over there so some quality issues are expected. But there has been some good stuff that has made the transition properly. Tosh's Harem Time and that highly experimental Shiwasu no Okina's Pisu Hame are good examples. This is just my belief but I believe that Asaki Takayuki's Choisuji adaptation is due to making them less loli as to circumvent that damnable loli law.
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Harem Time is not what I would point towards as an example of a great transition from h-manga to animated form. The thing is extremely choppy even for a show whose premise consists on repeatedly putting a dude's dick inside many girl's bodies.l
You know what I don't wanna discuss this.
Not worth it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So we'll see the anime in 2025. lol
I suppose I can't blame him for doing the same thing over and over again, to the point where he's basically not even apologetic about it anymore. Why take a risk when you don't have to?
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Toshokan Sensou movie
Shoujo.
Action.
You know, as someone who was fond of the TV series (an older noitaminA special) and debated with a non-animeGAF GAF-member about its merits, the movie kind of reminded me of all his points about the ridiculous nature of the premise.
And maybe it's because even in the last three years, technology has changed so much that we live in a point in human history where there is literally no more reason to print books on paper any more. In fact, a hundred years from now, people will laugh at how primitive we were because we hung on to the vestigial idea of the printed book and even the idea of book burning as an effective method of censorship.
Of course, the series was probably written before ebooks as a concept really took off, and as such there's no real discussion about how the internet would effectively destroy any attempt that a government would have at trying to censor material (if China can't do it, no one can), so you just have to accept that somehow this alternate universe Japan depends on books and bookstores for information and entertainment.
Unfortunately, like all good SyFy, half the movie is boring heavy-handed debates about the nature of censorship and the role of the author... which even forgiving the ridiculous premise was just so interminable to sit through. If you can't even let the allegory speak for itself, what is the point of writing science fiction at all? It's not like book burning is anything new - just write a historical novel instead. That said, at least the movie doesn't take the time to explain the politics too much... I assume it expects you to remember the TV series or that it assumes that you can extrapolate based on your knowledge of basic civics.
I dunno what I think about this really. I feel like I should like it because I remember liking the TV series... and the concept of a true shoujo action series still appeals to me, because no one else seems to have even tried to do something like this as far as I know (since most action heroines are basically male fantasy women), but this movie was just a bit too rough.
Assuming I'm not the only person who even remembers Toshokan Sensou, I guess it's worth checking out the movie inasmuch as it "ends" the TV series, but really the only reason to watch this movie would be to see how Production I.G. fails at using CG animation. I'm guessing they cheaped out on this movie because they didn't expect anyone to actually watch it but somehow still felt obligated to make it. lol
Final note, this is the first reasonable localization of "gap moe" that I've seen:
But it was closer in achieving the original artist's style than the other shows. It can only get better.
This is getting a bit uncomfortable so I'm just gonna stop here.
If you're talking about the Tokyo law, it was a general law against overly lewd depictions in media that wasn't labeled R18 (so it doesn't affect hentai). So far it hasn't stopped anyone from continuing to make ecchi. Well, not that it would, since it was actually a law against sales, not production. If you're talking about the other law, it was never passed.
No, please go on. Uncomfortable situations are what I enjoy most.
What's even more awesome about this is that he shamelessly cribs from himself and HE ACKNOWLEDGES IT. That takes some massive balls.
Chet Rippo
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How did you.... I do watch it... I really do...
I like urban-ish styles, so I like Kanna's style the most as well.
That's ok, I'm down to 1 anime this season and I still have a massive backlog to get through. We've all been there.
zerokoolpsx
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Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 1-5
Talk about freaking cliffhangers. I have about zero knowledge on gundams and this got me hooked. 2 remaining episodes can't come soon enough!
Talk about freaking cliffhangers. I have about zero knowledge on gundams and this got me hooked. 2 remaining episodes can't come soon enough!
At least watch 0079, Z, ZZ, 0080 and 0083.
firehawk12
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If he knows people will eat it up, it actually takes no balls whatsoever. lol
Now, balls would be making a manga about hockey.
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So because of Toshokan Sensou and Production I.G., I decided to start watching A Letter to Momo and I noticed something. Both movies look... different from TV anime in terms of how the the characters move. Is that because there's more frames of animation or something? I haven't watched an anime movie in a while, so I'm not sure if that's just a Production I.G. thing or a movie vs TV thing or whatever. Hopefully an animation nerd can elucidate on this anyway.
If he knows people will eat it up, it actually takes no balls whatsoever. lol
Now, balls would be making a manga about hockey.
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So because of Toshokan Sensou and Production I.G., I decided to start watching A Letter to Momo and I noticed something. Both movies look... different from TV anime in terms of how the the characters move. Is that because there's more frames of animation or something? I haven't watched an anime movie in a while, so I'm not sure if that's just a Production I.G. thing or a movie vs TV thing or whatever. Hopefully an animation nerd can elucidate on this anyway.
It's probably just more animation and better animators, but it'd be easier to tell with clips.
Is it like the difference between playing a game at 30fps and playing a game at 60fps?
Err, what Branduil said probably.
more budget = more and better animators = more animation
If he knows people will eat it up, it actually takes no balls whatsoever. lol
Now, balls would be making a manga about hockey.
Adachi could make a manga about Samba dancing and it'd be the same kind of awesome. Adachi is my hero.
When I was younger, I remember watching Grave of the Fireflies and being perplexed why the characters seemed to move more naturally than the more modern anime of the time. Grave was like 20 years old at that point and it still animated better. It was a really weird disconnect that I never understood until I got into the whole anime scene.
I don't know if there's ever been an anime done at 60 fps. They're pretty much all 24 fps and animated on twos or threes, which means between 12 and 8 unique cels each second... and that's in the full-motion scenes. Most anime have a significant number of still frames.
Animation done at a full 24 fps is extremely rare in anime.
Another Lady Innocent was amazing.
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I thought we were gonna stop with the porn talk.
Unless I'm talking out of my ass due to ignorance, in my gif making adventures I've seen a lot of sakuga scenes that are animated on ones when the rest of the episode is animated on twos or threes, but I can't think of a full episode of anything that uses a full 24/30 unique frames per second.
I can't comment on anime films because, admittedly, I've seen embarrassingly few, even of the classics.
Sorry, last time. But that was the only thing that popped to mind when he talked about high fps animation done well.
Clannad's Illusionary World scenes were done on ones! And a lot of people who watched it remarked on how weird the animation was because it seemed so fast, which in my experience is similar to the remarks of people who aren't used to 60fps games.
There are also scenes where different parts of the scene are animated at different times. For example, you can have two characters animated where one will move on every odd frame and the other will move on every even frame. That almost counts as 24fps, lol.
You're right though, I think. I don't know too much about animation, but that's what I thought too.
It happens, it's just very rare because animating on ones is expensive and it doesn't always make a scene better- you could hire an inbetweener to animate the frames between a Mitsuo Iso animation, but that would just mean less frames with Iso's drawings and more with some less-skilled grunts efforts.
But it can be useful if you want a scene to have a certain impact, or if you have a moving 3D background animated at 24 fps and you want the characters to match. The scene in Hyouka where Oreki first sees Chitanda is animated on ones.
Jex
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You'd only encounter more peasants that way, etc.
Chet Rippo
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I first read that as presents and was wondering why that would be bad.
I think I need some sleep...
Jex
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I thought you claimed you couldn't see the differences in animation between different anime projects, you liar!
*Gives Chet some breast milk and then tucks Chet into a bed made of breasts*
firehawk losing his mustache cred right before our very eyes.
KyoAni is unsurprisingly fond of doing scenes that way since it shows off their production value. There are several scenes in The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya shot on ones. Still, even KyoAni very rarely does shots on ones. It's just a poor cost-to-value ratio to do it all the time. And a lot of sakuga, like Mitsuo Iso's "full-limited" animation, focuses more on drawing a few frames really well than drawing smooth motion.
But that was a movie. Isn't that expected?
chickdigger802
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I wish.
It would be more common, sure, but most anime movies are still animated in the same way as TV shows, just with a lot more animation overall and better animators. Even Ghibli movies are mostly animated on twos or threes.
I didn't know that about Haruhi. I should try and watch the movie to appreciate it technically rather than zone out when I watch it. Haha, I'm sure there are a lot of nice things about it that I don't notice.
I like how anime utilizes limited animation. Did Iso work on Dennou Coil? I'm still planning on watching that someday. I remember that there's a name tied to it but I don't remember whose it is right now...
He was the director, among other things. It was like his defining work. Also maybe his last major work depending on whether he ever comes back, outside of that single KA credit under some different name.
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He worked to death. To death.
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He'll be back for Eva 4.0's massive Evangelion orgy of death. Poetry, rhymes, etcetera.He directed it, wrote it, and attached his career to its' anchor.
RIP Iso's career
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