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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -6| How much lower can we go?!
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Keep going. You'll hit an inflection point not too far from now where the show develops at a breakneck pace. Just power through. The destination is worth it.
Man, watching these people in the Toonami thread take Eva seriously. Not sure if I'm going to laugh or feel sorry for them when the walls begin to collapse around them.
dakkumauji
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Magi 18
Besides all the animation hiccups during the festival and yes there seemed to be nothing but animation hiccups, the whole eight generals were definitely fun. I mean what the hell show, why waste all that time on that boring ass arc when there was more musou-ing waiting right around the corner.
Well whatever, can't let all this excitement get to me.
Besides all the animation hiccups during the festival and yes there seemed to be nothing but animation hiccups, the whole eight generals were definitely fun. I mean what the hell show, why waste all that time on that boring ass arc when there was more musou-ing waiting right around the corner.
Well whatever, can't let all this excitement get to me.
You know, I really can't dispute that analogy.
If you didn't have an Ikuhara bias already then Sailor Moon would give you one. His episodes are consistently a step above the rest. It's probably apparent he's more into the show than Goldfish Warning, which he's on record saying he didn't care that much for.[Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon] 006
Easily the best episode yet, and I don't say it just because of my Ikuhara bias. The entire thing is different from the start-up, focusing on a lovestruck musician whose attempt to confess to his manager gets tangled with Jadeite's latest plot to suck energy out of the human world. The stakes feel therefore more personal than just whatever's the new fad middle school girls are into, and as a result you get the idea that this monster is actually a pretty fucking big deal --not to mention some of the composition accentuates her otherworldly nature.
The episode was still rife with Ikuharaisms too, culminating in a car chase scene that instantly reminded me of the CGI cars in Penguindrum and made me lament the fact that Ikuhara sold out too.His cars were the best, just sayin'.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Space Brothers 49:
Perhaps this is an odd complaint to make about Space Brothers, but I almost felt like the pacing was too fast in this episode. There were several points where it felt like we were skipping ahead and missing out on some valuable stuff that would have been good to watch.
With that said, it was a good episode, and I'm looking forward to finding out more about Nitta's past in the next episode. Space Brothers is always an enjoyable viewing experience, and it looks like this arc should continue to be good in the character development department.
Perhaps this is an odd complaint to make about Space Brothers, but I almost felt like the pacing was too fast in this episode. There were several points where it felt like we were skipping ahead and missing out on some valuable stuff that would have been good to watch.
With that said, it was a good episode, and I'm looking forward to finding out more about Nitta's past in the next episode. Space Brothers is always an enjoyable viewing experience, and it looks like this arc should continue to be good in the character development department.
The different between love and hate are paper thin etc.
Dude. you are going to LOVE this series. straight up love it.
for me it was a challenge. I like challenges, hence the work I do.
I heard this show is awful and my definition of awful is different from much of animegaf so its a worthy challenge to take on.
pleasant nostalgia is a good way to describe watching this series today.
it is absolutely a pleasure.
thats pretty much my own method of thinking here.
Seriously. Jarmel, keep in mind it's been ten years or so since they last saw one another iirc. I think, besides their shared tragedy over Lalah, they're both in sort of a malaise in Zeta, at least early on.
I was thinking of events post Zeta.
Regulus Tera
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[Space Brothers] 48
These training arcs are the best. Plus, Serika looks adorable in a military outfit.
These training arcs are the best. Plus, Serika looks adorable in a military outfit.
Chet Rippo
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Yeah, One Piece is pretty bad.
Futari wa Precure Max Heart 47 (END):
Well, at least Toei had the decency to cook up a half-decent finale, even if
ensured that the show was bullshit to the last. At least there was a massive animation upgrade, a particularly great scene where
, and some :firehawk stuff to cap it off at the end. Honestly, it was a better final episode than Futari wa, whose endgame was a complete mess.
I'm really going to miss Honoka and Nagisa in spite of the shitty show they ended up being trapped in, although there are two movies for me to watch at some point. Now to decide if I really want to do a summation post and possibly jump off a bridge when I see how much figurines cost on ebay.
Well, at least Toei had the decency to cook up a half-decent finale, even if
Hikari sacrificing herself then LOL SUDDENLY ALIVE AGAIN
Honoka and Nagisa tearfully acknowledge the fact that they're going to die
I'm really going to miss Honoka and Nagisa in spite of the shitty show they ended up being trapped in, although there are two movies for me to watch at some point. Now to decide if I really want to do a summation post and possibly jump off a bridge when I see how much figurines cost on ebay.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
You don't get any Congratulations. You got what you deserved.
dakkumauji
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Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal 39
I feel like the movie Cats & Dogs better portrayed this fierce rivalry even if it didn't have lolis, dog-cking, Kobayashi or catgirls.
I feel like the movie Cats & Dogs better portrayed this fierce rivalry even if it didn't have lolis, dog-cking, Kobayashi or catgirls.
Hyouka 17 (Rewatch)
I'm sad that I already finished this arc. However, this episode was fantastic and made it feel really complete on most all fronts.
Here the mystery is finally completely solved, and in parallel the main theme of the arc is addressed in full force. It was very deliberate in how it structured the interactions between those affected, but it was executed really well. So well that I think it elevates this episode to one of my favorites of the show. Seems like it's a trend with the closers in this show.
Besides the beginning, a lot of the episode had this "aftermath" feeling, and that's probably what they were going for, with all the images of people cleaning the school up, taking out decorations, and near the end the typical after school colour palette used in Hyouka. Using flashbacks was a good decision, especially when the "incident" at the Classics Club served to foreshadow a lot of stuff within the episode. Look at Tanabe in this shot! Not only that, but the faces of Satoshi and Mayaka, and the focus placed on that expression Oreki does. Also, a minor detail I really liked was the framing here. It puts enough emphasis on Oreki's thoughts on Chitanda related to the whole case, while not going out of its way to disrupt the pacing of the episode (The same idea is mentioned at passing later in the episode when he's talking with Tanabe).
I don't think I have much to say regarding the theme of expectations, it was fairly straightforward and probably discussed here already when the show aired. I liked how every character was weaved into this narrative, even Irisu and Chitanda that seemed to go on a completely unrelated direction. I appreciate the stance on the topic being bittersweet and somewhat unusual, instead of the cheery "ganbare!" stuff most late-night shows forward to the audience. But that's a constant in Hyouka, not just this arc. Takemoto did say the show was about the bitter-sweetness of youth after all.
It's interesting that the thing is handled so that the characters affected are always in relation to their (superior in their respective area) close friends, like Satoshi-Oreki, Kouchi-Anjou, and Tanabe-Kugayama. There's a nice bit of subtext in how each one copes with that. While Tanabe is very tricky and roundabout in his way of confronting Kugayama, Kouchi just flat-out rejects Anjou and her manga, helped by the circumstances. But you can really see in her scene that the two were pretty close and that she's probably also affected by the lack of contact (the way she goes about how she'd react to the manga, emphasizing that she'd contact Anjou to talk to her about it, was a pretty interesting piece of script).
I'm not very sure about Satoshi. The guy seems to fall back on a passive mindset and just leave it as it is. I guess it ties into the rest of his characterization we see on ep. 21, but the parallelisms in this episode aren't quite exact due to that.
As for Mayaka, she's another factor breaking the parallelisms as she's a third level in the "expectations" scale, something not present for the Kugayama-Tanabe and Satoshi-Oreki relationship, although one could argue that Oreki's sister can be taken into account, especially after seeing how effortlessly she solved the whole Juumoji mystery and other details in the show pointing to her perception of superiority by Oreki. Or maybe that hair-kun? I wonder...
Mayaka handles her impotence in the most healthy way, as she just lets it out, cries and moves on. She always comes across as more mature than the other three characters in the Club (that's another reason to her being best girl).
One thing to notice about this episode is that the animation was significantly more scarce than the average. There were a lot of stills and pans, more than it's normal for a Kyoani episode. Even then, the bits that were animated were as good as Hyouka has been. Nao Naituo's drawings have a lot of character to them, and she's a real observer. I like the subtlety with which Kouchi was handled, making sure of not showing her face very much and expression her tension just by showing her back (she was probably about to cry, lol).
Not only that, but the animators on this episode were pretty good. Mariko Takahashi, the up-and-coming newbies Shinpei Sawa and Haruka Fujita , Shoko Ikeda and even Kigami did KA here. I can only guess, but Kigami probably did the scene where Juumoji "attacks" the Classics Club, and basing on the comments for ep. 18, the third part with Tanabe seems similar to what Haruka Fujita did on the next episode. I would like to know who did the scene at the end with the celebrations, but I really have no clue.
The storyboard, handled by one of Kyoani's aces Taichi Ishidate, really went a long way to disguising some of the schedule problems present in the episode. Stuff such as this:
I'm sad that I already finished this arc
. However, this episode was fantastic and made it feel really complete on most all fronts.Here the mystery is finally completely solved, and in parallel the main theme of the arc is addressed in full force. It was very deliberate in how it structured the interactions between those affected, but it was executed really well. So well that I think it elevates this episode to one of my favorites of the show. Seems like it's a trend with the closers in this show.
Besides the beginning, a lot of the episode had this "aftermath" feeling, and that's probably what they were going for, with all the images of people cleaning the school up, taking out decorations, and near the end the typical after school colour palette used in Hyouka. Using flashbacks was a good decision, especially when the "incident" at the Classics Club served to foreshadow a lot of stuff within the episode. Look at Tanabe in this shot! Not only that, but the faces of Satoshi and Mayaka, and the focus placed on that expression Oreki does. Also, a minor detail I really liked was the framing here. It puts enough emphasis on Oreki's thoughts on Chitanda related to the whole case, while not going out of its way to disrupt the pacing of the episode (The same idea is mentioned at passing later in the episode when he's talking with Tanabe).
I don't think I have much to say regarding the theme of expectations, it was fairly straightforward and probably discussed here already when the show aired. I liked how every character was weaved into this narrative, even Irisu and Chitanda that seemed to go on a completely unrelated direction. I appreciate the stance on the topic being bittersweet and somewhat unusual, instead of the cheery "ganbare!" stuff most late-night shows forward to the audience. But that's a constant in Hyouka, not just this arc. Takemoto did say the show was about the bitter-sweetness of youth after all.
It's interesting that the thing is handled so that the characters affected are always in relation to their (superior in their respective area) close friends, like Satoshi-Oreki, Kouchi-Anjou, and Tanabe-Kugayama. There's a nice bit of subtext in how each one copes with that. While Tanabe is very tricky and roundabout in his way of confronting Kugayama, Kouchi just flat-out rejects Anjou and her manga, helped by the circumstances. But you can really see in her scene that the two were pretty close and that she's probably also affected by the lack of contact (the way she goes about how she'd react to the manga, emphasizing that she'd contact Anjou to talk to her about it, was a pretty interesting piece of script).
I'm not very sure about Satoshi. The guy seems to fall back on a passive mindset and just leave it as it is. I guess it ties into the rest of his characterization we see on ep. 21, but the parallelisms in this episode aren't quite exact due to that.
As for Mayaka, she's another factor breaking the parallelisms as she's a third level in the "expectations" scale, something not present for the Kugayama-Tanabe and Satoshi-Oreki relationship, although one could argue that Oreki's sister can be taken into account, especially after seeing how effortlessly she solved the whole Juumoji mystery and other details in the show pointing to her perception of superiority by Oreki. Or maybe that hair-kun? I wonder...
Mayaka handles her impotence in the most healthy way, as she just lets it out, cries and moves on. She always comes across as more mature than the other three characters in the Club (that's another reason to her being best girl).
One thing to notice about this episode is that the animation was significantly more scarce than the average. There were a lot of stills and pans, more than it's normal for a Kyoani episode. Even then, the bits that were animated were as good as Hyouka has been. Nao Naituo's drawings have a lot of character to them, and she's a real observer. I like the subtlety with which Kouchi was handled, making sure of not showing her face very much and expression her tension just by showing her back (she was probably about to cry, lol).
Not only that, but the animators on this episode were pretty good. Mariko Takahashi, the up-and-coming newbies Shinpei Sawa and Haruka Fujita , Shoko Ikeda and even Kigami did KA here. I can only guess, but Kigami probably did the scene where Juumoji "attacks" the Classics Club, and basing on the comments for ep. 18, the third part with Tanabe seems similar to what Haruka Fujita did on the next episode. I would like to know who did the scene at the end with the celebrations, but I really have no clue.
The storyboard, handled by one of Kyoani's aces Taichi Ishidate, really went a long way to disguising some of the schedule problems present in the episode. Stuff such as this:
Is pretty typical of him and it was as present as ever this time (though I have to wonder the extent to which Takemoto was involved in the second pic. It feels very much like him, reminds me of his work on SoulTaker.)
Char's Counterattack?
I haven't seen it but I do know they become enemies again.
chickdigger802
Banned
Back from the dead. Need to get in on the saucy avatar biz when I get back from shit LA.
Too much taking Eva seriously for my taste. It's all going to crash. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon. Actually, yeah, that's going to be fucking amazing.
Having so much fun
pity everybody's either dropping spoilers like easy or letting newbies look the whole thing up on a wiki
I didn't have no damn wiki in 2001
Gundam 0083:Stardust Memory 3
In which a character utters the phrase "You're too slow!"
At the risk of talking too much about FMP, this episode was better when they did it and involved the promise of naked women walking around the base. But I can't say that Paintball matches between mecha are unheard of.
In which a character utters the phrase "You're too slow!"
At the risk of talking too much about FMP, this episode was better when they did it and involved the promise of naked women walking around the base. But I can't say that Paintball matches between mecha are unheard of.
It's better they learn now. Not knowing what eva is will lead to the disaster that befell me when I watched Eva in early high school.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
That sounds like a real jerk move.
One Piece is bad?! Whaa?! Why?!
Once you spoil something, you can't unspoil it
Eh, I'm not actually spoiling anything for anyone. If someone wants to hunt it on their own, that's their prerogative. I only answer questions with spoiler tags when directly asked. I'm not heartless.
The motivations for Char don't really make much sense in CCA. Both amuro and char do a sort of
role-reversal with char being angry about lalah death, while amuro being more reserved about it
Jex
Member
How shameful. There's a number of surprises in the series that I'd prefer to be preserved.
Characters in the first few Gundam UC series don't really carry development and characterization from one show to another. It has a lack of character continuity. If I had one major problem with the UC stuff, it's that.
Yeah, the people who drop unmarked spoilers in that thread are asshats.
Jex
Member
We can't be the only anime thread thrown into community jail!
Toonami has some western animation too. Doesn't that put them a step above us?
Jex
Member
I guess it makes the content they consume less digusting, yes.
Then again they watched Deadman Wonderland so none of them deserve mercy.
Chet Rippo
Member
There are a lot of threads that should be in Community.
IMO, a hundred steps lower.
MLP airing this season in Japan this season so they can't use that excuse!
Jex
Member
I suppose you're right. Seems like a clear case of discrimination to me!
Amuro is the only one that really does, aside from love interests. Those are just dropped with no mention other than LaLah.
Any other side characters, especially Char, change to fit whatever Tomino needs them to be.
Meanie!
Harsh but fair.
lazybones18
Banned
Evangelion 1.11
Note to self: Pick up Neon Genesis Evangelion and End of Evangelion at ShutoCon if available
Note to self: Pick up Neon Genesis Evangelion and End of Evangelion at ShutoCon if available
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