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Wkd BO 03•10-12•17 - Giant gorilla, just like in one of those old video games, king

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Don't make me shoot, son.
DO IT.

Anyway, I don't think it was mentioned in the last thread, but Collide had the worst second weekend decline* of all time for a wide release last week: -88.5%


*If you don't count Delgo completely disappearing from theaters before its second weekend.
 

kswiston

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DO IT.

Anyway, I don't think it was mentioned in the last thread, but Collide had the worst second weekend decline* of all time for a wide release last week: -88.5%


*If you don't count Delgo completely disappearing from theaters before its second weekend.

That and Live By Night are making sure that this year is a record setter.
 

3N16MA

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Star wars won't make $850M by Dec 31st. But this year already has some money from Rogue One and other holdovers.

I'm curious to see if the July placeholder stands. I can't think of any smaller Disney titles entering production in the past few months.

I can count on you to to correct my posts that make litttle if any sense.

Correct again on Star Wars.
 

I'll be sure to weep at the fact that I'm a Montrealer from my luxurious seat seeing Kong in 70mm.

Speaking of, these are the theaters in North America playing Kong: Skull Island in 70mm if anyone is interested:

Plymouth — Willow Creek 12
Dallas — Look Cinemas
Montreal — Cinema Banque Scotia
Hollywood — Arclight
Sherman Oaks — Arclight
New York City — City Cinemas 1,2,3
Seattle — Cinerama
Oakland — Renaissance Grand Lake Theatre
 
Glad to see Get Out performing so phenomenally. It's incredibly well earned.

Surprised Logan is looking to have some worse than expected legs.. the movie deserves more people seeing it.

I had a feeling about Kong strengthening based on word of mouth. My theater was only half-full Thursday night but everyone was really into it and it sounded like a full house. I think audiences are realizing this is even better than Jurassic World and spreading the word. I hope it can keep it up as BatB and GitS are just around the corner.

Eh, I wouldn't say that.

Skull Island is dumb as bricks, but at least it doesn't presume to be anything else, so it's easy to swallow.

Kong wasn't a very good human movie but delivered on Kong himself. I feel like he is supposed of be the humanity analogue to Godzillas "mother earth" analogue. I'm not sure who I am gonna be rooting for when they fight.

I bet something causes Godzilla to rage out, and he's the baddie for a portion of the film and Kong the protector. Godzilla breaks free of what's causing him to go berserk right when the real monster/threat appears, and him and Kong team up for the ultimate beat down.
 

Nairume

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I bet something causes Godzilla to rage out, and he's the baddie for a portion of the film and Kong the protector. Godzilla breaks free of what's causing him to go berserk right when the real monster/threat appears, and him and Kong team up for the ultimate beat down.
They become best friends after discovering both their mothers are named Mothma.
 
They become best friends after discovering both their mothers are named Mothma.

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Dabanton

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I know a few older US friends who went to see Get Out after the tons of web and newspaper articles it enjoyed over the last two weeks.

Love when good movies get longer legs.
 

Busty

Banned
The real winner with Kong anyway is Universal who is probably getting a percentage without lifting a finger.

Unlikely. Unless the deal Legendary cut to extricate the project from Universal included a small percentage of the overall gross (2 to 5% ???) I don't see this being the case.

KONG is actually a Warner Bros property (Turner bought RKO, Time Warner bought Turner) and Legendary intended to self finance the film when it was set up at Universal so moving it across town was pretty easy.

Universal licensed KONG from WB in the 80's, after the studio had little regard for it, and just held onto it for decades. In this age of studio owned IPs and established brands evidently Warners saw a chance to take back their property (albeit majority financed by Legendary) and took it.
 

kswiston

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$160m reported budget for B&B. It'll probably make its money back in the opening weekend.

Probably profitable just based on all of the licensed crap that film will push.

Logan increased slightly in the actuals. Get Out decreased a bit. Kong was right on.
 

kswiston

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Logan is now over X-Men Apocalypse's domestic total. It will take another week or so to pass it worldwide.

X-Men Apocalypse's reported budget was $178M. Logan's was $97M
 

Schlorgan

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Does Fifty Shades have more territories to open in still? Its WW total so far is only about half of the first one.

Also, are there any official predictions for Power Rangers? Its budget was $105m, so it should at least break even.
 

Matt_

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Fandango: ‘Beauty and the Beast’ Becomes Company’s Top Family Pre-Seller of All Time

LOS ANGELES – MARCH 14, 2017 – Prior to its opening this Friday, Disney’s live-action “Beauty and the Beast” has already set a new record as Fandango’s #1 family pre-seller of all time, with “Beauty” pre-sales (through Monday night) already eclipsing total pre-sales for any other family film in Fandango’s 17-year history.

“Beauty” is outpacing the previous family pre-seller champ, “Finding Dory,” and superhero movies like “Captain America: Civil War,” “Avengers: Age of Ultron” and “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” at the same point in the Fandango sales cycle.

In case anyone still has doubts for some reason
 

BumRush

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Logan is now over X-Men Apocalypse's domestic total. It will take another week or so to pass it worldwide.

X-Men Apocalypse's reported budget was $178M. Logan's was $97M

This is great news for the future of X-men. Apocalypse had no idea what it wanted to be. Logan knows exactly what it is and it does a damn good job of it.


Yup. You see so many "who asked for this" type posts about beauty. Apparently millions of people.
 

Sesha

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How is Logan tracking compared to Deadpool and Days of Future Past? Can it beat Daisies of the Packing Plant in either US domestic, international or both?
 

Jumeira

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Logan is now over X-Men Apocalypse's domestic total. It will take another week or so to pass it worldwide.

X-Men Apocalypse's reported budget was $178M. Logan's was $97M

Good! I'm going for my second viewing next week with the Mrs. She usually hates Marvel superhero movies but I know she'll love this. Big fan of TDK.
 
So, Kong was really good! #Bronsonwasright

Human characters were better than Godzilla 2014. The director oughta get a DCEU gig.

Hope Kong performs well. Though Beauty and The Beast might complicate things unfortunately...
 
Can some box office enthusiasts explain to me why bad faith-based movies do well at the box office but great ones like Silence not hit it? Is it because Silence wasn't about American Christians in America?
 
Can some box office enthusiasts explain to me why bad faith-based movies do well at the box office but great ones like Silence not hit it? Is it because Silence wasn't about American Christians in America?

Faith-based movies have a built in audience that will fill entire theaters themselves for a quick excursion/group outing

Does Silence seem like something you wanna take 35-40 people to?
 

Anth0ny

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Logan is now over X-Men Apocalypse's domestic total. It will take another week or so to pass it worldwide.

X-Men Apocalypse's reported budget was $178M. Logan's was $97M

So if you're Fox right now, why even fucking bother making a high budget, PG-rated superhero movie.

The two R-rated films made more money, were critically acclaimed, and are a fantastic way to differentiate yourself from Marvel and DC (well, DC for now).
 

kswiston

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Can some box office enthusiasts explain to me why bad faith-based movies do well at the box office but great ones like Silence not hit it? Is it because Silence wasn't about American Christians in America?

Silence is a period piece dealing with the Roman Catholic church and the expulsion of Christians for Japan. The major audience for faith-based movies in America is Evangelical Christians. They want the preachy, feel-good type of faith based movie that promotes Evangelical ideals of Christianity and the active participation of God in the lives of people. They don't want Silence.

Is Get Out ever going to open Internationally?

Outside of a limited release in a few select markets? Not really. IMDB lists a bunch of European dates.
 
So if you're Fox right now, why even fucking bother making a high budget, PG-rated superhero movie.

The two R-rated films made more money, were critically acclaimed, and are a fantastic way to differentiate yourself from Marvel and DC (well, DC for now).

Because we haven't seen what happens when you make film at this mid-level and it turns out legitimately not good/bad. You look at DC, and even though those movies are nearly universally derided as not being very good, you're still looking at more than $700 million worldwide. Amazing Spider-Man 2 ended up over that number as well (and the truth of the matter is that the reason Sony re-rebooted Spider-Man wasn't because it wasn't good, it was because the whole point of the first reboot was to try to get the budget in check and they completely fucked that up by the time ASM2 rolled around). If Mangold had flubbed on the execution of Logan, are we looking at a $300 million worldwide take (what Passengers has ended up at)? Or something even lower? You're not going to hit on each one of these (well, unless you're Marvel), but we generally know the floor for the PG movies is still fairly high.

Edit: What it looks like Fox may be doing, and I think it's actually a good line to take, is to keep churning out the $100 million+ movies in the hopes that one of them still catches (since it seems Supernova is still a thing that's going to happen), but continue to make the $50-100 million movies in hopes of starting a new franchise. The only thing I'm not sure of is where New Mutants fits into this.
 

Anth0ny

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Because we haven't seen what happens when you make film at this mid-level and it turns out legitimately not good/bad. You look at DC, and even though those movies are nearly universally derided as not being very good, you're still looking at more than $700 million worldwide. Amazing Spider-Man 2 ended up over that number as well (and the truth of the matter is that the reason Sony re-rebooted Spider-Man wasn't because it wasn't good, it was because the whole point of the first reboot was to try to get the budget in check and they completely fucked that up by the time ASM2 rolled around). If Mangold had flubbed on the execution of Logan, are we looking at a $300 million worldwide take (what Passengers has ended up at)? Or something even lower? You're not going to hit on each one of these (well, unless you're Marvel), but we generally know the floor for the PG movies is still fairly high.

Fantastic 4 made $167 million on a $120 million budget

that's the floor



I think with even a bad R-rated superhero movie, the floor will always be well above the budget. We have all been afraid the big bad R rating... but in reality there is such a massive adult fanbase for this stuff.
 
Can some box office enthusiasts explain to me why bad faith-based movies do well at the box office but great ones like Silence not hit it? Is it because Silence wasn't about American Christians in America?

The faith based movies that bring Churchgoers to theatres are ones that are light-hearted and end with a positive affirmation that their faith in Jesus will pay off in dividends. It's a straightforward and boring formula, but people are going to feel good about their faith, not to see cinematic masterpieces. Imagine that you're a folksy 62 year old grandmother and ask yourself if Silence is a movie you're inclined to sit through.
 
Fantastic 4 made $167 million on a $120 million budget

that's the floor

That's more the absolute worst case scenario than the reasonable floor. They ended up re-shooting the ending and editing by committee, and the director disowned the movie right before release. The making of that movie seems like it was basically a dumpster fire. I'd argue the floor for X-Men movies lies somewhere between First Class' $350 million and Apocalypse's $545 million. If I had to guess, somewhere around $450-500, which should mean as long as you keep your budget at or below around $150 million you aren't hurting yourself too badly by taking the shot.
 
Real being real, I don't see much reason to bag on faith-based movies. They're dumb as shit but of the ones I've seen, only the really egregious bullshit like God's Not Dead slams you over the head with the religion thing.

But I'm mostly talking about the silly Hallmark Channel movies and especially the Christian Christmas ones because whew
 
There's plenty of good religious movies. I liked hacksaw. Silence and Tree of life are freaking amazing. Calvary was really dope as well

Nothing wrong with movies that have characters of strong faith or ones that tackle religion. It's the garbage lifetime-tier movies like Gods Not Dead that are wack.
 
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