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Wkd BO 05•26-28•17 - Rock in bay can't stop Pirates or Guardians, Alien sinks tho

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PhoncipleBone

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Anecdotal evidence ahoy! Theater was mostly full at the 7pm show, but not completely sold out. There were lines waiting for the 10pm show as we left. Expecting very strong Thursday numbers from Wonder Woman though based on my completely anecdotal analysis.
 
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kswiston

Member
PhoncipleBone said:
Anecdotal evidence ahoy! Theater was mostly full at the 7pm show, but not completely sold out. There were lines waiting for the 10pm show as we left. Expecting very strong Thursday numbers from Wonder Woman though based on my completely anecdotal analysis.
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My IMAX showing was maybe half full. The main central section was pretty close to full, but the side sections and (shitty) front section seats were more or less empty.
 
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suaveric

Member
PhoncipleBone said:
Anecdotal evidence ahoy! Theater was mostly full at the 7pm show, but not completely sold out. There were lines waiting for the 10pm show as we left. Expecting very strong Thursday numbers from Wonder Woman though based on my completely anecdotal analysis.
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I took a look at the theaters near me that sell reserved tickets about 30 minutes before the first showing tonight. They were around half full. Maybe they filled in the last 30 minutes, but I'm expecting so-so Thursday numbers based on my anecdotal evidence. I hope I'm wrong, I really don't want the story this weekend to turn in to Why Is Wonder Woman Flopping?
 
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kswiston

Member
suaveric said:
I took a look at the theaters near me that sell reserved tickets tonight about 30 minutes before the first showing tonight. They were around half full. Maybe they filled in the last 30 minutes, but I'm expecting so-so Thursday numbers based on my anecdotal evidence. I hope I'm wrong, I really don't want the story this weekend to turn in to Why Is Wonder Woman Flopping?
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I will say that I went to a Thurs Sneak for Iron Man 3, and that screening was also half full. We ended up getting the second biggest weekend ever. It really does depend on your location, and what else is going on in the world of entertainment.

As an aside, I went to the Thursday sneaks for the first Iron Man, and there were 10 people in my 7pm showing. I thought that poor Iron Man was going to flop. In hind sight, I don't think that they advertised the early start very well. In 2008, those sorts of things were uncommon.
 
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Alienfan

Member
PhoncipleBone said:
Anecdotal evidence ahoy! Theater was mostly full at the 7pm show, but not completely sold out. There were lines waiting for the 10pm show as we left. Expecting very strong Thursday numbers from Wonder Woman though based on my completely anecdotal analysis.
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My theatre was 3/4 full, although that was a 9pm showing
 
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Affeinvasion

Member
Yeah I live about an hour and half outside of Cleveland. I can guarantee that the theaters weren't full tonight given the basketball game.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

Member
Australia's OD is $1.12M (local currency), which is a bit lower than Logan or Doctor Strange. It'll have to play a lot stronger to domestic audiences relative to other comic book films to truly break out, but that's certainly possible. It's also worth considering Captain America: The Winter Soldier had the largest AUS:DOM ratio for any MCU film.

Here's the data I compiled for when Guardians 2 released:

Code: 
[U]Film[/U]                          [U]AUS[/U]                         [U]AUS+[/U]                              [U]UK[/U]                          [U]US+CA[/U]
The Avengers                  13,288,146                  19,305,652                        15,778,074                  207,438,708
Iron Man 3                    14,090,713                  17,507,260                        13,702,836                  174,144,585
Thor 2                         7,209,749                   7,390,813                         8,666,322                   85,737,841
Captain America 2              6,058,676                   6,355,027                         6,036,406                   95,023,721
Guardians of the Galaxy        6,552,690                   8,872,826                         6,360,809                   94,320,833
Avengers 2                    15,700,805                  17,105,520                        18,015,774                  191,271,109
Ant-Man                        5,346,067                   5,467,690                         4,011,345                   57,225,526
Captain America 3             13,961,714                  13,961,714                        14,466,681                  179,139,142
Doctor Strange                 6,425,701                   6,470,554                         9,291,181                   85,058,311
Guardians of the Galaxy 2      8,585,968                  15,612,331                        13,060,000

I don't have time tonight to add any DC films, but I might do so tomorrow afternoon just so we have it in the future.
 
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kswiston

Member
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Australia's OD is $1.12M (local currency), which is a bit lower than Logan or Doctor Strange. It'll have to play a lot stronger to domestic audiences relative to other comic book films to truly break out, but that's certainly possible. It's also worth considering Captain America 1 had the largest AUS:DOM ratio for any MCU film.

Here's the data I compiled for when Guardians 2 released:

Code: 
[U]Film[/U]                          [U]AUS[/U]                         [U]AUS+[/U]                              [U]UK[/U]                          [U]US+CA[/U]
The Avengers                  13,288,146                  19,305,652                        15,778,074                  207,438,708
Iron Man 3                    14,090,713                  17,507,260                        13,702,836                  174,144,585
Thor 2                         7,209,749                   7,390,813                         8,666,322                   85,737,841
Captain America 2              6,058,676                   6,355,027                         6,036,406                   95,023,721
Guardians of the Galaxy        6,552,690                   8,872,826                         6,360,809                   94,320,833
Avengers 2                    15,700,805                  17,105,520                        18,015,774                  191,271,109
Ant-Man                        5,346,067                   5,467,690                         4,011,345                   57,225,526
Captain America 3             13,961,714                  13,961,714                        14,466,681                  179,139,142
Doctor Strange                 6,425,701                   6,470,554                         9,291,181                   85,058,311
Guardians of the Galaxy 2      8,585,968                  15,612,331                        13,060,000

I don't have time tonight to add any DC films, but I might do so tomorrow afternoon just so we have it in the future.
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Am I blind, or is the aforementioned Cap 1 not on that chart?
 
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suaveric

Member
kswiston said:
I will say that I went to a Thurs Sneak for Iron Man 3, and that screening was also half full. We ended up getting the second biggest weekend ever. It really does depend on your location, and what else is going on in the world of entertainment.

As an aside, I went to the Thursday sneaks for the first Iron Man, and there were 10 people in my 7pm showing. I thought that poor Iron Man was going to flop. In hind sight, I don't think that they advertised the early start very well. In 2008, those sorts of things were uncommon.
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It definitely matters on the audience of the movie. Most people don't even know about these Thursday screenings. But then you have Force Awakens and the theater I went to had probably 12 showings between 7 and 8pm alone that Thursday night and most were near capacity. Kind of a crap shoot I guess.
 
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Penguin

Member
Went to Alamo at 7, the 740 and 9pm showings were all sold out.

The other 3 weren't, but didn't check to see how much tickets were left
 
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kswiston

Member
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Nope. I hit 1 instead of 2. >_>

edit: CA1 made $4.6M AUD versus its $65M OW domestically. That ratio is around the ballpark for other comic book films.
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I wish that Australia had more standard openings so we could do a proper ratio comparison. Half of the Marvel stuff opening on May Day weekend doesn't help.
 
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Kenzodielocke

Banned
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, 3.41M OD,
Suicide Squad, 3.2M OD,
Logan, 1.35M OD,
Doctor Strange, 1.27 OD,
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, 2.9M OD.

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and NZ:

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Don't have comparison data for that.


Edit: Both beat Depp, finally, a Woman strikes back.

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AdventureRacing

Member
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Australia's OD is $1.12M (local currency), which is a bit lower than Logan or Doctor Strange. It'll have to play a lot stronger to domestic audiences relative to other comic book films to truly break out, but that's certainly possible. It's also worth considering Captain America: The Winter Soldier had the largest AUS:DOM ratio for any MCU film.

Here's the data I compiled for when Guardians 2 released:

Code: 
[U]Film[/U]                          [U]AUS[/U]                         [U]AUS+[/U]                              [U]UK[/U]                          [U]US+CA[/U]
The Avengers                  13,288,146                  19,305,652                        15,778,074                  207,438,708
Iron Man 3                    14,090,713                  17,507,260                        13,702,836                  174,144,585
Thor 2                         7,209,749                   7,390,813                         8,666,322                   85,737,841
Captain America 2              6,058,676                   6,355,027                         6,036,406                   95,023,721
Guardians of the Galaxy        6,552,690                   8,872,826                         6,360,809                   94,320,833
Avengers 2                    15,700,805                  17,105,520                        18,015,774                  191,271,109
Ant-Man                        5,346,067                   5,467,690                         4,011,345                   57,225,526
Captain America 3             13,961,714                  13,961,714                        14,466,681                  179,139,142
Doctor Strange                 6,425,701                   6,470,554                         9,291,181                   85,058,311
Guardians of the Galaxy 2      8,585,968                  15,612,331                        13,060,000

I don't have time tonight to add any DC films, but I might do so tomorrow afternoon just so we have it in the future.
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That's about what I was expecting based on the number of screens it has. Not a particularly strong performance. Doctor strange wasn't a particularly high earner in Australia in the first place so falling short of that isn't great.

kswiston said:
I wish that Australia had more standard openings so we could do a proper ratio comparison. Half of the Marvel stuff opening on May Day weekend doesn't help.
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I'd have to go back and check but 99% of movies open on a Thursday here. The biggest problem is that we simply don't get as much data as the US due to being a smaller market.

Kenzodielocke said:
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, 3.41M OD,
Suicide Squad, 3.2M OD,
Logan, 1.35M OD,
Doctor Strange, 1.27 OD,
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, 2.9M OD.



and NZ:



Don't have comparison data for that.


Edit: Both beat Depp, finally, a Woman strikes back.
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Pirates is actually performing really, really poorly in Australia. Beating its numbers isn't all that impressive.

Unless It has strong legs Wonder Woman will end up near the bottom of all super hero movies in Australia. With the competition I'd say that's unlikely.
 
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Mr. Pointy

Member
I think Wonder Woman will probably do somewhere around Man Of Steel-Doctor Strange-GotG1 numbers, with the US/WW split falling in between the two. That'll put it in a good position to do $800m-$1b when the sequel rolls around.
 
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Timu

Member
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
This is the current around Deadpool 2:

• Untitled Han Solo Star Wars Anthology Film (BV) - 5/25
• Deadpool 2 (Fox) - 6/1
• Ocean's 8 (WB) - 6/8
• Transformers 6 (Par.) - 6/8
• The Incredibles 2 (BV) - 6/15
• Jurassic World Sequel (Uni.) - 6/22

Things can certainly change, but that's an insane schedule and I think Deadpool 2 would have the most to lose.
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June 2018 looks awesome!
 
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Sgt. Kabukiman

Banned
I expect a repeat of the Captain America pattern for WW, albeit with stronger numbers overall. The first movie will have to be carried by the US (and maybe the UK as DeathyBoy mentioned) for the most part but should nonetheless reach profitability. And considering the positive reception, the sequel should perform a lot better overseas. This first film is about establishing the character and the brand, it's going to be a slow burn in some territories where DC has never been that strong historically but the word of mouth should help by the time WW2 shows up in theaters. That's what happened with Cap and Batman Begins.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

Member
Wonder Woman previews: $11M

Just in time for her 75th anniversary this year, Wonder Woman finally arrived in cinemas last night courtesy of Warner Bros./DC and director Patty Jenkins with $11M, making it the best preview night for a movie directed by a female director. The previous record was held by Sam Taylor Johnson's Fifty Shades of Grey which made $8.6M.

Wonder Woman's Thursday night charts above the preview nights of such superhero origin stories as Doctor Strange ($9.4M), Ant-Man ($6.4M), Thor ($3.2M) and Captain America: The First Avenger ($4M), and just below Guardians of the Galaxy ($11.2M).
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Penguin

Member
Kenzodielocke said:
Doesn't mean much. Could blow up over the weekend because of families. Still expecting 90M though.
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Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Probably a good bet. Game 1 of the NBA finals was last night which may have had some effect on the preview number, so Toa TAK's $100M OW is still on the table as well.
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Fair play
Just being safe

I guess the big takeaway I can make is... Warner was SUPER conservative with their 65 million estimate... I mean movie would need to collapse worse than BvS to pull that off
 
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witness

Member
I'm seeing GotG like numbers now, but it does have potential to jump past that into $100+ with family appeal and brand recognition. I think it can do it.

Edit: oh shit I didn't even think about game 1 being last night, that must have taken a big hit out of it.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Feels like mid 90s is where this will wind up, but WOM on my social media has been bonkers. If you factor in game 1 last night, 100+ feels not insane.
 
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Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
Make bank Patty, you and the crew deserve it.

I can't imagine when those rumours about the movie being a mess started making the rounds, how they must've felt. And Gal Gadot has to be feeling vindicated as fuck, all those years enduring bullshit and blind hate.

I'm glad for the creative team and all involved.
 
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DeathyBoy

Banned
Mr. Pointy said:
I think Wonder Woman will probably do somewhere around Man Of Steel-Doctor Strange-GotG1 numbers, with the US/WW split falling in between the two. That'll put it in a good position to do $800m-$1b when the sequel rolls around.
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First is gonna do 999.9999999 million.
 
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3N16MA

Banned
MoS did 12M in previews and a 128M OW (Thursday numbers were kept separate back then so it shows up as 116M). I believe MoS only had actual midnight previews.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

Member
3N16MA said:
MoS did 12M in previews and a 128M OW (Thursday numbers were kept separate back then so it shows up as 116M). I believe MoS only had actual midnight previews.
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Man of Steel's $12M Thursday was a bulk ticket purchase by Walmart as a promotion, which were then sold to consumers in Walmart stores.

MoS's midnight number was $9M. We never got official information on how many of the Walmarts ticket were actually sold to people.
 
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3N16MA

Banned
Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Man of Steel's $12M Thursday was a bulk ticket purchase by Walmart as a promotion, which were then sold to consumers in Walmart stores.

MoS's midnight number was $9M. We never got official information on how many of the Walmarts ticket were actually sold to people.
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kswiston said:
The thursday previews were pre-purchased Walmart tickets.
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Yeah, that was going purely off of my memory of its OW. The BOM article explains it.

Of course I don't read.
 
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Obliterator

Member
That's a very good preview number. Somewhere between 90-100 seems likely off of that I think given the word of mouth seems very strong
 
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3N16MA

Banned
If it hits 100M that would make it 4 straight DCEU to debut at 100M or more. JL is pretty much guaranteed to debut over 100M which would push it to 5 straight.

Of course 3 of those have Batman.
 
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BattleMonkey

Member
Yea it's not a big indicator, but it just is odd to me seeing my social media account and only one or two people running out to see WW. While any Marvel movie, everyone is checking in day 0 and splooging about it all over the place. It just kinda has me worried
 
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Boke1879

Member
Eager to see how it does today. This is anecdotal but I have talked to a couple of people today who really didn't care one way or the other about this movie that are going to go see it tonight. And I have a feeling the reviews and WOM played a big part in that.
 
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