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[DarkLordMalik]

An estimated 60% drop for Spider-Man? Yeesh, I thought the RT score and great word-of-mouth was going to give it strong legs.

If anyone again brings RT bump from now, I will show them the legs of Spider-Man to shut them up.

 

[Sean C]

It going to take more than 1 good spidey movie to win people back after the last 10 years .

That would logically have mattered for its opening weekend, not its second weekend. Second weekend are about sustaining audience interest and word of mouth.

 

[Mrbob]

Wonder Woman had two benefits Spiderman didn't. First one is it really was the only good movie to be released in June and it came out at the beginning of the month. The biggest competition in June was that garbage Mummy movie. So this helped push word of mouth. Second is WW tapped into the female market in a way no other super hero movie has. Maybe Captain Marvel will be able to replicate the success of WW but not sure since WW it's more well known.

I still believe Spidey 2 will be huge due to first one being good and there first post Avengers marvel movie. But Sony can't be happy with this hold.

 

[Chamber]

It's not really an origin movie.

Despite missing Uncle Ben and the radioactive spider, it's probably still considered an origin story to most. Ultimately, we've seen Peter in high school learning the ropes of being a superhero 3 times in recent memory and there's definitely people being turned off by that.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

That would logically have mattered for its opening weekend, not its second weekend. Second weekend are about sustaining audience interest and word of mouth.

Even with good WOM i still see some people waiting for this on DVD .
I think we at the point that a spdiey movie just not interesting to people after so many fuck ups.

 

[Mix Master]

Strong competition? It's one thing to release a movie and having nothing but poorly reviewed films to go up against for weeks, and another thing to run right a critically acclaimed film the week after you open.

Dunkirk gonna be huge too. seeing ads fucking everywhere.

 

[WaffleTaco]

If anyone again brings RT bump from now, I will show them the legs of Spider-Man to shut them up.

RT only works as a positive if everyone thought the movie would have sucked in the first place (Wonder Woman).

Like if Transformers 5 ended up being an actual good movie...it might have still made a billion. People would see it just because they couldn't believe it.

Also Spidey has extra circumstances involved with why it's not doing too hot. It will be the same reason Thor 3 will not do that well either regardless of reviews.

If you were going to go with a film not getting an RT bump I would suggest War for the Planet of the Apes.

 

[kswiston]

If anyone again brings RT bump from now, I will show them the legs of Spider-Man to shut them up.

Individual films don't mean anything. That's like seeing an article stating that the homicide rate was at its lowest level ever last year and saying "Well, my uncle was killed last year, so that's clearly bullshit"

Reviews are just one of a myriad of factors. Also, positive reviews on highly anticipated films probably have no real effect. It's the negative reviews that hurt.

 

[mreddie]

Dunkirk gonna be huge too. seeing ads fucking everywhere.

Dunkirk gonna get that 1D audience.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Despite missing Uncle Ben and the radioactive spider, it's probably still considered an origin story to most. Ultimately, we've seen Peter in high school learning the ropes of being a superhero 3 times in recent memory and there's definitely people being turned off by that.

I won't lie, I really did want this movie to skip the training and have Peter web sling around Manhattan.

 

[number11]

I don't understand why blockbuster summer is a thing. Why release your big action movie the same time as all the other big action movies? People can't afford to watch a movie every week

 

[broncobuster]

Dunkirk gonna be huge too. seeing ads fucking everywhere.

Dunkirk will surprise people. They'll go in to see Harry Styles, and go in a second, third, and eighth time to avoid Dunkirk withdrawal. It'll be Avatar all over again.

 

[kswiston]

Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $765M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $751M
Despicable Me 3 - $619M
Transformers 5 - $517M

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I won't lie, I really did want this movie to skip the training and have Peter web sling around Manhattan.

yep this is 3rd time we seeing Spider-Man learning to be Spider-Man even if different in some ways .
Side note thanks god the game did not go this road .

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Dunkirk will surprise people. They'll go in to see Harry Styles, and go in a second, third, and eighth time to avoid Dunkirk withdrawal. It'll be Avatar all over again.

Lies.
But I expect Dunkirk to do all right. Relatively low opening but decent legs.

Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $765M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $751M
Despicable Me 3 - $619M
Transformers 5 - $517M

kswiston, what's the end goal for WW at this point?

Pirates is doing okay all things considered. Lol at transformers. I'm intrigued by how the Bumblebee movie will perform next year. Maybe it could serve as a soft reboot just like First Class.

 

[zero_suit]

Worldwide Updates:
Despicable Me 3 - $619M
Transformers 5 - $517M

That was quick.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $765M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $751M
Despicable Me 3 - $619M
Transformers 5 - $517M

How much does Transformers still have in the tank at this point?

 

[Kusagari]

I'm still really shocked that Pirates ended up doing okay while Transformers has tanked.

Completely thought it would be the other way around.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

I'm still really shocked that Pirates ended up doing okay while Transformers has tanked.

Completely thought it would be the other way around.

I thought they'd both do phenomenally. The T5 flop is the weirdest thing I've seen at the BO in a minute.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I might be wrong about Dunkirk's gross.

 

[longdi]

I hope this is the end of Bayformers, cant believe GAF of all sites, have a following about this series which keep getting more nonsensical....recycling same plot about cybertron colliding with Earth, but zero consistency with returning characters.

 

[broncobuster]

Worldwide Updates:

Wonder Woman - $765M
Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - $751M
Despicable Me 3 - $619M
Transformers 5 - $517M

As reference, the last entries for Pirates and Transformers were roughly $1B and $1.1B.

Transformers will be a series low while Pirates will fall below everything but the first.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

If anyone again brings RT bump from now, I will show them the legs of Spider-Man to shut them up.

B-but the Bronson Bump!

 

[kswiston]

kswiston, what's the end goal for WW at this point?

Around $800-820M. Things are slowing down now. I think that Wonder Woman earned a bit less than $20M worldwide in the past week. It might crawl to $800M with the current markets. It might just miss that mark. However, Japan is left to release, and worst case scenario there will be $8-10M. $820M would require an outstanding run for a superhero film in Japan ($20-25M). An average run is $10-15M.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I hope this is the end of Bayformers, cant believe GAF of all sites, have a following about this series which keep getting more nonsensical....recycling same plot about cybertron colliding with Earth, but zero consistency with returning characters.

I hope you know this is the same GAF that believes RE6 is the best video game ever made. We're not exactly immune to liking garbage.

 

[J_Viper]

Is Dunkirk really projected to do big numbers here in NA?

I mean, I'm looking forward to it, but it's a WW2 pic.

 

[kswiston]

War for the Planet of the Apes had a Worldwide opening of $103M

 

[this_guy]

I think the lesson we need to learn from Spiderman and Wonder Woman is the setting should always be set in World War 1.

 

[gamz]

Is Dunkirk really projected to do big numbers here in NA?

I mean, I'm looking forward to it, but it's a WW2 pic.

SPR was WWII. I mean he does have a big following and the reviews look great. It'll do real good I'm assuming,

 

[Chamber]

Is Dunkirk really projected to do big numbers here in NA?

Nope.

$40-$45m type opening weekend, should have good legs though.

 

[Kusagari]

I think the lesson we need to learn from Spiderman and Wonder Woman is the setting should always be set in World War 1.

Every super hero film now needs to be starring a female.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

The lesson here is that everybody was wrong.

 

[Chamber]

The lesson here is that everybody was wrong.

Speak for yourself, homie.

 

[broncobuster]

I think the lesson we need to learn from Spiderman and Wonder Woman is the setting should always be set in World War 1.

All superhero movies should be period pieces. Just imagine a Spider-Man movie set in the 1970s.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Around $800-820M. Things are slowing down now. I think that Wonder Woman earned a bit less than $20M worldwide in the past week. It might crawl to $800M with the current markets. It might just miss that mark. However, Japan is left to release, and worst case scenario there will be $8-10M. $820M would require an outstanding run for a superhero film in Japan ($20-25M). An average run is $10-15M.

Thanks!
I didn't know the bar was so low for superhero films in Japan, especially considering the fact that Beauty and the Beast has made more than 100 million over there. I wonder why that is.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Dunkirk should clear 150 million or atleast come close to it because you should never underestimate Nolan fanboys.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

The lesson here is release your movie any upcoming Dark Universe movie.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

The lesson here is spidey in high school needs to be done with.

 

[kswiston]

Thanks!
I didn't know the bar was so low for superhero films in Japan, especially considering the fact that Beauty and the Beast has made more than 100 million over there. I wonder why that is.

Japan has a popular home market for superheroes (based on their shonen manga, and stuff like Kamen Rider)

 

[J_Viper]

All superhero movies should be period pieces. Just imagine a Spider-Man movie set in the 1970s.

 

[FTF]

If anyone again brings RT bump from now, I will show them the legs of Spider-Man to shut them up.

 

[Poodlestrike]

All superhero movies should be period pieces. Just imagine a Spider-Man movie set in the 1970s.

That would actually be outrageously dope. Spider-Man in 70's NY, fuck yeah.

 

[Kusagari]

I'm down for Spidey in Ancient China.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Thanks!
I didn't know the bar was so low for superhero films in Japan, especially considering the fact that Beauty and the Beast has made more than 100 million over there. I wonder why that is.

I think Japan just loves Disney. Frozen made 250 million there. Cinderella 47 million. Japan was also one of the top grossing markets for Tangled and Zootopia.

There is also War of the Planet of Apes as others pointed out.

 

[zero_suit]

I'm down for Spidey in Ancient China.

Fast & the Furious is probably going to space, so why the hell not?

 

[3N16MA]

We need old Peter. I'm talking about a 60+ year old Peter.

Break new ground.

 

[Chamber]

If Japan realizes Wonder Woman is a princess who grows up to save the world, there's a chance for a breakout there.

 

[mreddie]

Ant-Man and Wasp in the early 90s
Wonder 2 in 1980s


Oh wait...X Men Apoc was 1980s and it didn't do shit.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

If Japan realizes Wonder Woman is a Disney princess who grows up to save the world, there's a chance for a breakout there.

/fixed

 

[Bronx-Man]

Dunkirk should clear 150 million or atleast come close to it because you should never underestimate Nolan fanboys.

I hear it's already the #1 movie of all time on IMDB.