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Wkd BO 0722-2416 - DOM Lights dim for Ice Age, the force weakens with Star Trek

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Everything is down from Into The Darkness' opening overseas for Star Trek Beyond.

China will have to pick up the slack.

Don't worry it gonna

Save this post for when I am horribly, horribly wrong

Also shaddap about Ghostbusters you nerds, that's old news now
 
Good weekend for Star Trek, considering the horrible marketing and lack of a significant hook to draw non-Trekkies to the theaters.

I'm not exactly sure how you could pin this on STID for the drop. I'd mainly blame it on the odd marketing scheme for this film

What was wrong with the marketing for this one? It's Star Trek 3, the crew takes on a new alien menace, the ship gets wrecked again. What else is there to market?
 
The trailers for Beyond were pretty off, I agree. Glad to hear it's actually a really solid Trek film. I'll probably see it next week along with Suicide Squad.
 

kswiston

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And lol it dropped like 3 mil from Into Darkness, and it'll pick that up easy. Beyond will probably be the highest grossing Trek movie when we're all done here

Star Trek Into Darkness opened on a Thursday. It's Fri-Sun total was $70M. Its 4-day opening was $83M. Beyond might hit $83M after its first 7 days.


Also, the 37 foreign markets that Star Trek Beyond opened in this weekend were down 14% from Into Darkness.
 
I'm still surprised The BFG did as poorly as it did. Maybe the previews were just too creepy or scary for kids?

BFG was ugly as fuck and sounded like he had marbles in his mouth

Star Trek Into Darkness opened on a Thursday. It's Fri-Sun total was $70M. Its 4-day opening was $83M. Beyond might hit $83M after its first 7 days.


Also, the 37 foreign markets that Star Trek Beyond opened in this weekend were down 14% from Into Darkness.

Listen you don't bring math into this

oops mah bad
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
well at least ghostbusters will get a boost from china i hear they'll watch anything.

It's not on the release calendar yet, I don't think it'll open there to be honest. Comedies are a hard sell for China and it's up to China Film Group.
 

kswiston

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The Conjuring 2 is now at $310M worldwide. It should end up topping the first film's worldwide gross by a bit ($318M). That will make it the second biggest horror film of all time after The Exorcist.

Now You See Me 2 is at $286M worldwide. The first film made $345M WW. I don't think that the sequel will match that, but with openings left in France (the largest overseas territory for the first film), Germany and Japan, it will at least be somewhere over $300M. China saved the film from a serious drop, as the Chinese gross accounts for about 1/3 of the current total.
 
I'm still surprised The BFG did as poorly as it did. Maybe the previews were just too creepy or scary for kids?

markrylancebfg-large.jpg


Hideous CGI.
 

120v

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had a feeling star trek was going to bomb, so glad it didnt. Hopefully it washes the bad taste of Into Darkness out of people's mouths and the next movie rebounds at the BO
 

Abounder

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Not surprised but a bit disappointed @ Trek - it never regained momentum after waiting a year too long to make the first sequel.
 

kswiston

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Dory bumps Deadpool out of the 2016 worldwide top 5 tomorrow. That will give Disney 4 of the top 5. BvS will be knocked down to #5 at some point in August.

EDIT: The new WW total for Ice Age is $200M after a $30M weekend overseas.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Now You See Me 2 is at $286M worldwide. The first film made $345M WW. I don't think that the sequel will match that, but with openings left in France (the largest overseas territory for the first film), Germany and Japan, it will at least be somewhere over $300M. China saved the film from a serious drop, as the Chinese gross accounts for about 1/3 of the current total.

I think it'll be awfully close to it's predecessor in total. It's had a solid performance considering it dropped by almost 50% domestically. Overseas are comparable to the first one if not better for most of it's regions with the exception of commonwealth nations.

That looks great to me.

I guess it's too realistic?

It's suppose to be a children's tale.
 

kswiston

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The Jungle Book made $418k this weekend, down 19% from last weekend. It is now about $1.4M behind Deadpool domestically. It's going to end up being very close.


If The Jungle Book clears Deadpool, Disney is close to locked to take the top 4 spots this year domestically. Moana would really have to overperform for Disney to take the entire top 5 though. I don't think Doc Strange has much of a chance.


Suicide Squad is the only other film this year with an outside chance at an upset.
 
Shame that Star Trek Beyond is performing in line with expectations. Great film that deserves a bit more love.

Ghostbusters drop is in line with normal films, but below Feig and McCarthy's normal percentage. Likely this one will have a multiplier sitting need any other blockbuster property, so around $125 million? It's ahead of Tarzan's performance, which was surprisingly solid.

https://twitter.com/GiteshPandya/status/757236033452961792

Top live-action openings this summer: #CaptainAmericaCivilWar $179.1M, #XMenApocalypse $65.8M, #StarTrekBeyond $59.6M, #Ghostbusters $46M.

Weird year.
 
The trailers for Beyond were pretty off, I agree. Glad to hear it's actually a really solid Trek film. I'll probably see it next week along with Suicide Squad.
The first trailer was truly terrible, though the latest ones were a lot better, the last one even had excited to see it. Went today and it's actually my favourite of the reboots I think.
 

faridmon

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Is the new Trek movie a direct sequel?

Haven't watched the previous two movies, and was thinking of watching this one.
 

Pandy

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Something goofier, that didn't look like it was taken out of the recent Jack & the Beanstalk film, probably would have done better.

I haven't seen the film yet, but 'goofier' wouldn't fit the source material at all. It's a dark fairytale.
 

Casimir

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Shame that Star Trek Beyond is performing in line with expectations. Great film that deserves a bit more love.

Ghostbusters drop is in line with normal films, but below Feig and McCarthy's normal percentage. Likely this one will have a multiplier sitting need any other blockbuster property, so around $125 million? It's ahead of Tarzan's performance, which was surprisingly solid.

https://twitter.com/GiteshPandya/status/757236033452961792



Weird year.

How is this a weird year? Winter Soldier was a sequel to a successful action comic book movie. X-Men was a sequel to a action focused comic book series that had been run into the ground. Star Trek was running off of the reception of the first movie which was a well received action movie. Ghostbusters is a reboot of a comedy film, a genre that is not as accessible to audiences especially foreign ones, from the 80s. And additionally, it was banned from the second largest market. Everything seems normal.
 
The Jungle Book made $418k this weekend, down 19% from last weekend. It is now about $1.4M behind Deadpool domestically. It's going to end up being very close.


If The Jungle Book clears Deadpool, Disney is close to locked to take the top 4 spots this year domestically. Moana would really have to overperform for Disney to take the entire top 5 though. I don't think Doc Strange has much of a chance.


Suicide Squad is the only other film this year with an outside chance at an upset.

Rogue One?
 
How is this a weird year? Winter Soldier was a sequel to a successful action comic book movie. X-Men was a sequel to a action focused comic book series that had been run into the ground. Star Trek was running off of the reception of the first movie which was a well received action movie. Ghostbusters is a reboot of a comedy film, a genre that is not as accessible to audiences especially foreign ones, from the 80s. And additionally, it was banned from the second largest market. Everything seems normal.

First year where it feels like the general "we" are thinking that $90+ million openings are normal and things that drop below that are abject failures. I feel like Marvel, Universal, and Star Wars pushed expectations much higher.
 

KingV

Member
I'm still surprised The BFG did as poorly as it did. Maybe the previews were just too creepy or scary for kids?

That shit is just frankly not that good. I took my kid to it. It's slow and sort of boring.

It not all that entertaining until near the end.
 

kswiston

Member
He's probably already including Rogue One in that

Ya. Zootopia won't be in the domestic top 5.



Boxoffice.com still has Jason Bourne opening at $65M next weekend (and hitting $195M total). That seems a bit high to me.


Bourne, Pete's Dragon, and Suicide Squad are the only unreleased films with a realistic shot at the summer top 10. Personally, I don't think that Pete's Dragon will make the $125M+ cut off. As such, here's what a rough look at what will end up being this year's list:

1) Finding Dory
2) Captain America: Civil War
3-4) Secret Life of Pets and Suicide Squad
5-7) Star Trek Beyond, X-Men Apocalypse, and Jason Bourne? (Beyond will beat Apocalypse unless it drops hard this weekend. Bourne is a wild card)
8-10) Ghostbusters, Tarzan, and Central Intelligence. (Maybe replace one of those with Pete's Dragon if it does well. Tarzan will probably beat CI. Too early to say more)
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
Is the new Trek movie a direct sequel?

Haven't watched the previous two movies, and was thinking of watching this one.
I mean you could but

1. There's gonna be one character arc that you'll probably be pretty confused about
2. I think the movie feels a lot better if you've watched these characters grow since the first reboot film because play a big part towards its quality
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
First year where it feels like the general "we" are thinking that $90+ million openings are normal and things that drop below that are abject failures. I feel like Marvel, Universal, and Star Wars pushed expectations much higher.

I just think that those days are over if you're not part of the Disney, Illumination/Jurassic, DC family.

$60M is the new $90M. You think the new Kong is going to open near Godzilla levels? Hell nah.

Today's market is much less forgiving.
 
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