MHWilliams
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In no world was Ghostbusters projected to make $500 million. It's performance has been roughly in line with estimates, despite Sony probably wanting more. It's underperforming.
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Wkd BO 0722-2416 - DOM Lights dim for Ice Age, the force weakens with Star Trek
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In no world was Ghostbusters projected to make $500 million. It's performance has been roughly in line with estimates, despite Sony probably wanting more. It's underperforming.
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Sho_Nuff meant Sony's projections. This is supposed to be the first in a large movie and TV franchise. Feig himself has said $500 million is what the movie needed to gross to be considered successful. That's mathematically impossible at this point. With $240 million+ in costs, Sony is almost certainly losing money on Ghostbusters theatrically.
freenudemacusers
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Well if we're lucky, despite the poor performance ghostbusters will get a sequel like Tron Legacy. It's all about fan metrics on forums.
BronsonLee
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oooooh you bastard
You'd better make sure you get a good warm up.
You've got a lot of pistol whippin' to do.
BronsonLee
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I'm gonna need Tommy John surgery after I'm done with you flops
ElBoxyBrown
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The toys are apparently doing well. I doubt it makes any difference.
Bourne will be in the same boat as Star Trek where it'll do well but probably won't offer much to discuss either way. Suicide Squad has fanboy pride on the line so the results will be talked about much more.
Sony is insane for banking so much on Ghostbusters.
Sony: "Hey, at least we got final say on Spider-Man. Right, Kevin?"
Feige: *snorts* "Sure thing, fellas!" *silent chuckle*
Wasn't Sony's actual quote something like "They exceeded our expectations" which is the sort of corporate double talk that gets wheeled out when things are going as well as hoped.
CassidyIzABeast
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Based on metrics I just made up, Ghostbusters has to double Fantastic Four to not be a dud. So anything below 334M is considered a dud.
freenudemacusers
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Worked for pacific rim and dredd!
broncobuster
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But Matt Damon isn't in Star Trek.
Careful now. Dredd might get a Netflix series!
Ghostbusters 2016 is a mediocre movie that's looking to to do mediocre numbers at the BO, if even that. I cannot see how Sony Pictures isn't deeply disappointed given that this was suppose to kickoff their GB cinematic universe. It also makes all the drama surrounding this movie sillier than it already was.
freenudemacusers
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that's only because yahoo isn't around to buy a season
When your back's against the wall you tend to do crazy shit in the hope that something sticks. Remember, 21 Jump Street x MIB coming soon. Sony have had this string of unnecessary and expensive 80s reboots every two years for a few years now. 2012: $125 million Total Recall movie. 2014: $100 million Robocop reboot. 2016: $144 million Ghostbusters relaunch. Too bad Pascal is gone, because now I'm not sure we're going to see a 2018 entry in this cinematic universe.
If the merch is actually doing well, that probably means the cartoon gets made.
ElBoxyBrown
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If Sony can't get Will Smith then MIB X Jump Street is already in trouble.
Jawmuncher
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Both Ice Age and Star Trek didn't seem to have much hype leading to release. Both films didn't seem to have as much marketing as prior films. In the case of Ice Age it shouldn't have been a summer film. It needed to release during a dry period much like the Croods did awhile back. Would have done fine there.
Well, Star Trek Beyond is performing slightly worse than Into Darkness so far, and that film only managed ~$240M overseas. China might make up the difference, but I don't think Star Trek Beyond has much of a chance at $300M OS unless China puts up Jungle Book numbers.
Low end for Ice Age is probably $350M OS. I am expecting around $400M, depending on China.
Define well? If we are talking a possible $300M+ domestic, it's basically Suicide Squad, and then nothing until the Nov/Dec holiday period.
I think that The Magnificent Seven will do well for its genre and September release spot, but well is probably more like $100-150M domestic. The Girl on The Train has a good shot at the same sort of number if it is decent. The novel sold several million copies in the past year or so.
Moana will be big. Whether big is $200M or $300M is up in the air for now. I have a feeling that Doctor Strange will hit $200M as well (though not much higher than that). Fantastic Beasts will be huge overseas, but I think we are going to see a pretty sizable dip from the HP films domestically.
Rogue One is going to be huge. An Age of Ultron to Ant-Man level drop from TFA would still give Rogue One over $365M domestic. Looking at the rest of December, Sing will probably be another $200M+ Illumination film. Passengers also has pretty good advanced interest, but that is going to depend on reviews.
I am sure there will be a few more films in the $100-200M range that I am forgetting or that come out of nowhere. Every year has some.
This year doesn't really have much in the way of dry spells. Especially for animated films. I suppose that Fox could have moved the film to mid August. The Croods spot in late March would have been a blood bath.
Spyder_Monkey
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I can't believe Dinesh D'souza is still allowed to make movies.
I'm not incredibly shocked he gets to make movies still, I think the bigger shock is that he still can get theatrical releases. Especially on 1,200 screens.
Oh god, it's got its work cut out then.
PhoncipleBone
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WordAssassin
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I saw the trailer for Light's Out before Conjuring 2, and I could barely even watch it. Then for several days after I was fuckin jumpy as shit around my house. I will never be able to watch that movie since the fucking TRAILER fucked me up so bad.
Then nobody wanted to touch it, so it floundered a bit, and then Feig came on and rebooted it with the female cast. Then shit hit the fan like shit has never hit a fan before and for the past two years everything surrounding the movie has been a fucking nightmare. I cannot imagine a world where Sony was completely and totally oblivious to the vitriol surrounding the movie, and didn't adjusting their expectations accordingly. The night before the movie came out they were probably biting their nails to the quick hoping it wouldn't completely crater, so it being a marginal success and not total failure, all things taken into consideration, probably has them popping corks.
That is absolutely not true. Even people that never intended to see the movie admitted the International Trailers for Ghostbusters were lightyears better than the US ones. Japan even got that super goofy theme song music video. Sony's US arm dropped the fuckin ball, not the rest.
What makes sense to me, is that at the start of it, Sony was going "Oh man, we finally got the rights to Ghostbusters. Now we can make as many movies as we want. Time to get our swim trunks on for a dive in the money bin."
Then nobody wanted to touch it, so it floundered a bit, and then Feig came on and rebooted it with the female cast. Then shit hit the fan like shit has never hit a fan before and for the past two years everything surrounding the movie has been a fucking nightmare. I cannot imagine a world where Sony was completely and totally oblivious to the vitriol surrounding the movie, and didn't adjusting their expectations accordingly. The night before the movie came out they were probably biting their nails to the quick hoping it wouldn't completely crater, so it being a marginal success and not total failure, all things taken into consideration, probably has them popping corks.
Request: please continue to label the box office threads "Wkd BO", rather than just BO. Searching for "wkd" is the most reliable way to find these threads; doing so by thread title pulls up ten pages of box office threads. I've added it back to a few in recent weeks but missed a couple and can't find them because I can't remember the thread titles.
Obviously not a requirement, but it's been a nice way to find box office threads going back to 2007.
Obviously not a requirement, but it's been a nice way to find box office threads going back to 2007.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I second this. Its easy enough to just look at my past posts to find the current thread, but our worldwide box office snapshots are one of the more reliable ways to find past weekend takes for overseas grosses. Sometimes I go back and check those.
Violence Jack
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At this point, either GB is going to get rebooted in a few years, or that proposed sequel is going to have a major budget slash. Like around $50 million.
Much lower weekend result for Star Trek than what I thought.
Much lower weekend result for Star Trek than what I thought.
PhoncipleBone
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It was all fun and games until I was mistaken for you in some other threads, lol.
Of course, that is part of the fun of it and makes the bet that much funnier.
Ninja Scooter
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What's the current tracking for Suicide Squad looking like?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Hahahahah it was indeed fun!
Now apparently the consensus is that Neogaf has upgraded to twerk bets, not sure I can follow
Studios seem to be pretty bad at slashing budgets. They could probably cut it down $25M or so, but I doubt we would be seeing a $100M sequel with the same talent.
Wasn't that mostly Slayven rubbing it in?
It was $125M about a week ago. We might get an update this week.
BronsonLee
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Twerk bets are as real as Divergent's box office dreams
PhoncipleBone
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Hahahahah it was indeed fun!
Now apparently the consensus is that Neogaf has upgraded to twerk bets, not sure I can follow
It is all talk in here. No one has actually followed through on a twerk bet that I am aware of.
And there is an old Kingon proverb that says revenge is a dish best served cold. It is very cold in space, Vinny...
Bobby left us because the promise of shaking asses has gone unfulfilled for 8 months now.
PhoncipleBone
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To be fair, Ghostbusters 2016 is probably a better movie than Tron Legacy.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
On a side note, in regards to Suicide Squad. I see that film settling at $300M domestically comfortably. David Ayer has delivered a masterpiece, I just feel it and know it!
Androidsleeps
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LMAOOO #9
Bobby is just sitting at home, watching...
Haha.
Joking aside, I saw on Twitter that he just wasn't feeling it anymore. Sad to see him go, but maybe he'll be back in a few months after a bit of a breather. I guess I can understand the sentiment. I have considered taking a bit of a GAF break from time to time myself, but I doubt I could skip out on these Sunday threads for long. It's either talk about box office here, or learn to communicate in General Zod and Apocalypse heads over at BOT.
On a side note, in regards to Suicide Squad. I see that film settling at $300M domestically comfortably. David Ayer has delivered a masterpiece, I just feel it and know it!
The marketing has been top notch. If the movie is boring or mediocre, they are doing an extremely good job of hiding that fact.
Some people enjoy forking over $10 to see their preconceived notions validated.
WordAssassin
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The budget of the sequel will be lower by default without them needing to slash anything, rumor has it that the budget for Answer the Call was so high because it also included all the work and failed concepts that went into Ghostbusters 3 and Ghostbusters: Hellbent. So the next movie made wouldn't have 25 years of preproduction to account for.
Xisiqomelir
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I saw both the bolded and they were vile trash.
As was the Serbuan Maut 2 ripoff Judge Dredd, which Sony is not to blame for.
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Reboot or bust. The only way they have a ghost of a chance at beating a 3D animal movie is if they become a 3D animation as well.
Back to what works/worked I'm afraid.
Haha!
Please don't go dude. Your B.O. commentary is so amazing on Sundays. It's become one of my favorite things on GAF.
BronsonLee
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I will be the last one standing in BoxOffice-GAF
tkscz
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Reboot or bust. The only way they have a ghost of a chance at beating a 3D animal movie is if they become a 3D animation as well.
Back to what works/worked I'm afraid.
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