wesleyshark
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Oh wow yeah these are some early reviews- it's not out until Aug 12th (US).
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Wkd BO 0722-2416 - DOM Lights dim for Ice Age, the force weakens with Star Trek
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Oh wow yeah these are some early reviews- it's not out until Aug 12th (US).
excelsiorlef
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Ultimately the lesson to take from Ghostbusters is that the budget was ridiculous.
This is doing pretty fine for a comedy but they budgeted it for a blockbuster action flick.
Amy Pascal should have been much tighter.
This is doing pretty fine for a comedy but they budgeted it for a blockbuster action flick.
Amy Pascal should have been much tighter.
Wait, what, why is Ghosbusters later in Germany and Belgium, than, for example, in the Netherlands? Is that common? I used to to go to the cinemas in Belgium when I lived close to the borders (I am Dutch) and I never noticed something like this?
sometimes, films get delayed because of the summer holidays or big events (like soccer).
broncobuster
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Any word on OW tracking for Suicide Squad? Last I heard was 115.
Recent estimates say $125mil
That's bonkers. I thought it would do well but didn't expect this. Assuming it comes close to that obviously.Recent estimates say $125mil
Any word on OW tracking for Suicide Squad? Last I heard was 115.
Apparently it has been breaking all sorts of records when it comes to 'social media engagement' and thus some people's expectations have gone totally bananas without much real data to support them.
It's a lock to say that Suicide Squad will take the record for biggest August opening from GOTG. Beyond that it's anyone's guess.
Personally I have always said it will open around $150m. We shall see soon enough.
If GB made 250-300 million, it wouldn't be a "total and utter disaster". It wouldn't be great, but it shouldn't be described in the same way guys here have described "Gods of Egypt". I think people who really want it to fail are over-exaggerating it big time. This wasn't the language used to describe movies with similar runs and y'all know it.
It isn't a bomb. It's an underperformer. But in the context of Sony spending millions of dollars on other Ghostbuster projects and all but announcing a full cinematic universe (when they have gone beyond desperately needing a new franchise) these numbers are a 'total and utter disaster'.
Let's not forget the terrible position that Sony find themselves in. They have very little in the way of studio owned brands and as such went out of their way to fashion Ghostbusters into their 'AAA' brand even going as far as to give the franchise a label with the 'Ghost Corps'.
For this film to make less than $100m in International territories shows that audiences outside of the US have next to zero interest in the Ghostbusters franchise and thus it takes any hopes Sony had of this becoming a 'AAA' franchise and kills them outright.
Hollywood Reporter has an article stating that the current tracking for Ben Hur is $14-15M opening weekend.
I hope so, this and the Ghostbusters could really throw a wrench into the Hollywood remake machine.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Hollywood Reporter has an article stating that the current tracking for Ben Hur is $14-15M opening weekend.
Seems high considering the trailers.
Who thought making a Ben-Hur movie in 2016 was a good idea?
Obliterator
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I really hope Suicide Squad is a good film so it does have as great of an opening as it appears. If it reviews poorly after what went down with BvS I could see it falling off quick. People already came out of BvS lukewarm at best. DC can't afford back to back duds
wesleyshark
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The remake hardly anyone wanted. What's the budget for BH, do we know?Hollywood Reporter has an article stating that the current tracking for Ben Hur is $14-15M opening weekend.
Sadly I don't think anything is stopping the remake and reboot train. They're redoing The Rocketeer for crying out loud lol.I hope so, this and the Ghostbusters could really throw a wrench into the Hollywood remake machine.
wesleyshark
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broncobuster
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Hollywood Reporter has an article stating that the current tracking for Ben Hur is $14-15M opening weekend.
Nice, making back its production budget on OW.
wait, no. I'm looking at the old Ben-Hur.
The remake hardly anyone wanted. What's the budget for BH, do we know?
Sadly I don't think anything is stopping the remake and reboot train. They're redoing The Rocketeer for crying out loud lol.
Ben Hur was around $100M
BronsonLee
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Gonna watch Bourne today.
I expect failure.
I expect failure.
ViewtifulJC
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^Another movie to not land in the increasingly rare $200m field
^Another movie to not land in the increasingly rare $200m field
Ya. Suicide Squad is likely the only film left that can land in the $200M range now that Secret Life of Pets is headed for a mid $300M finish. If Suicide Squad breaks $300M, we'll have 8 films over that mark, 10-11 films in the $100-199M range and none in the $200-299M range for 2016 going into September.
Gonna watch Bourne today.
I expect failure.
Your expectations will be met.
ViewtifulJC
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jason bourne the biggest cinematic disappointment of the year. It was supposed to save 2016 summer blockbusters, not leave it in darkness.
BronsonLee
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Lol Bourne was such a flimsy movie
AmaterasuOni
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jason bourne the biggest cinematic disappointment of the year. It was supposed to save 2016 summer blockbusters, not leave it in darkness.
Star Trek was the savior.
Jason's Ultimatum
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First Spectre and now Bourne.....not like this. Not like this.
Worst Bourne yet?Lol Bourne was such a flimsy movie
AmaterasuOni
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Bad Moms made $2M in Thursday previews, also decent for that genre of film.
I have never understood American comedy. Bad Moms, Central Intelligence and Mike and Dave were all 1/5 to me. I just can't tolerate that idiotism these movies have, they're just plain stupid. I guess my taste of humor is just different. I like really dark and absurd humor and American made humor is far from that.
EDIT: I like Feig's movies though.
wesleyshark
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I have never understood American comedy. Bad Moms, Central Intelligence and Mike and Dave were all 1/5 to me. I just can't tolerate that idiotism these movies have, they're just plain stupid. I guess my taste of humor is just different. I like really dark and absurd humor and American made humor is far from that.
EDIT: I like Feig's movies though.
My favorite comedies are ones along the lines of Four Lions. Dry delivery, various levels of subtlety, with occasional moments of unexpected insanity.
sometimes, films get delayed because of the summer holidays or big events (like soccer).
Ah, yes, makes sense they do that. Still, a bit odd to see all of our direct neighbours not have it in the cinemas yet.
AmaterasuOni
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My favorite comedies are ones along the lines of Four Lions. Dry delivery, various levels of subtlety, with occasional moments of unexpected insanity.
Yeah. I mostly like Euro comedy. France, Denmark and UK are the kings.
BronsonLee
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Worst Bourne yet?
No, Supremacy was the worst one
This one is just WEIRD though. Like half Bourne and half something else
Ah, yes, makes sense they do that. Still, a bit odd to see all of our direct neighbours not have it in the cinemas yet.
it still pisses me off. in germany, i had to wait 2+ months for guardians of the galaxy, 3 for prometheus, 7 weeks for the dark knight and so on.
finding dory doesnt come out until october!
I'll keep my expectations low then. That's a shame as I wanted this to be really good.No, Supremacy was the worst one
This one is just WEIRD though. Like half Bourne and half something else
Gentleman Jack
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No, Supremacy was the worst one
This one is just WEIRD though. Like half Bourne and half something else
It's weird to think of the Bourne films having an 'identity' because generally speaking the plots all run together and the rest is action sequences copied and pasted from MI/Bond films.
It's weird to think of the Bourne films having an 'identity' because generally speaking the plots all run together and the rest is action sequences copied and pasted from MI/Bond films.
I saw the first three Bourne films and remember very little about them other than the shaky cam fights (which proceeded to spread into everything).
You could call it The Bourne Identity.It's weird to think of the Bourne films having an 'identity' because generally speaking the plots all run together and the rest is action sequences copied and pasted from MI/Bond films.
Heheh.
Box Officemojo estimates for the weekend
Jason Bourne (4,026 theaters) - $54 M
Star Trek Beyond (3,928 theaters) - $30 M
Bad Moms (3,215 theaters) - $25 M
The Secret Life of Pets (3,673 theaters) - $17.8 M
Ice Age: Collision Course (3,997 theaters) - $13 M
Nerve (2,538 theaters) - $12.5 M
Lights Out (2,835 theaters) - $10.4 M
Ghostbusters (3,052 theaters) - $10.3 M
Finding Dory (1,733 theaters) - $4.4 M
The Legend of Tarzan (1,503 theaters) - $3.2 M
Jason Bourne (4,026 theaters) - $54 M
Star Trek Beyond (3,928 theaters) - $30 M
Bad Moms (3,215 theaters) - $25 M
The Secret Life of Pets (3,673 theaters) - $17.8 M
Ice Age: Collision Course (3,997 theaters) - $13 M
Nerve (2,538 theaters) - $12.5 M
Lights Out (2,835 theaters) - $10.4 M
Ghostbusters (3,052 theaters) - $10.3 M
Finding Dory (1,733 theaters) - $4.4 M
The Legend of Tarzan (1,503 theaters) - $3.2 M
PhoncipleBone
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That seems like a good hold for Trek.Box Officemojo estimates for the weekend
Jason Bourne (4,026 theaters) - $54 M
Star Trek Beyond (3,928 theaters) - $30 M
Bad Moms (3,215 theaters) - $25 M
The Secret Life of Pets (3,673 theaters) - $17.8 M
Ice Age: Collision Course (3,997 theaters) - $13 M
Nerve (2,538 theaters) - $12.5 M
Lights Out (2,835 theaters) - $10.4 M
Ghostbusters (3,052 theaters) - $10.3 M
Finding Dory (1,733 theaters) - $4.4 M
The Legend of Tarzan (1,503 theaters) - $3.2 M
That seems like a good hold for Trek.
Those are just BOM's weekend predictions
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
That seems like a good hold for Trek.
I'm expecting Star Trek to be between $24-26M honestly, not that great.
MHWilliams
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Ultimately the lesson to take from Ghostbusters is that the budget was ridiculous.
This is doing pretty fine for a comedy but they budgeted it for a blockbuster action flick.
Amy Pascal should have been much tighter.
This is what I've been saying. Solid money for a comedy.
I hope so, this and the Ghostbusters could really throw a wrench into the Hollywood remake machine.
Nothing will throw a wrench into the Hollywood remake machine. Remakes have been going on for a very long time and at $100 million a pop, Hollywood isn't throwing money at anything that doesn't have an existing property, director, or star behind it. Regardless of how right or wrong that method of operation is.
Box Officemojo estimates for the weekend
Jason Bourne (4,026 theaters) - $54 M
Star Trek Beyond (3,928 theaters) - $30 M
Bad Moms (3,215 theaters) - $25 M
The Secret Life of Pets (3,673 theaters) - $17.8 M
Ice Age: Collision Course (3,997 theaters) - $13 M
Nerve (2,538 theaters) - $12.5 M
Lights Out (2,835 theaters) - $10.4 M
Ghostbusters (3,052 theaters) - $10.3 M
Finding Dory (1,733 theaters) - $4.4 M
The Legend of Tarzan (1,503 theaters) - $3.2 M
A 50% second week drop for Star Trek isn't too bad. That would put its domestic gross over $100 million.
I still don't understand why somebody thought cinegoers would clamor for a Ben-Hur remake. Who cares about sword and sandals movie in this day and age?
French comedies are absolutely dreadful 90% of the time, I have a hard time understandING how you find american comedies idiotic but then praise French ones, they're mostly fucking dumb.
Yeah. I mostly like Euro comedy. France, Denmark and UK are the kings.
French comedies are absolutely dreadful 90% of the time, I have a hard time understandING how you find american comedies idiotic but then praise French ones, they're mostly fucking dumb.
I still don't understand why somebody thought cinegoers would clamor for a Ben-Hur remake. Who cares about sword and sandals movie in this day and age?
Probably a combination of chasing the 10-15 year old Gladiator/300 money, and trying to appeal to the Game of Thrones crowd while missing the point on why that show is popular.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I really hope Star Trek Beyond does well. I know it's the third movie, so it will probably makes less than the movie before it, but it's the first real Star Trek movie of the bunch. This is the reboot I wanted to see.
Reading the reaction in the spoiler thread from is like reading opposite world. Like calling Into Darkness better...? In what world is that piece of shit better than anything?
So of course, the first actually well-written ST movie will do worse than the stupid and loud previous ones. Kill me. Please.
Reading the reaction in the spoiler thread from is like reading opposite world. Like calling Into Darkness better...? In what world is that piece of shit better than anything?
So of course, the first actually well-written ST movie will do worse than the stupid and loud previous ones. Kill me. Please.
Razgriz-Specter
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Box Officemojo estimates for the weekend
Jason Bourne (4,026 theaters) - $54 M
Star Trek Beyond (3,928 theaters) - $30 M
Bad Moms (3,215 theaters) - $25 M
The Secret Life of Pets (3,673 theaters) - $17.8 M
Ice Age: Collision Course (3,997 theaters) - $13 M
Nerve (2,538 theaters) - $12.5 M
Lights Out (2,835 theaters) - $10.4 M
Ghostbusters (3,052 theaters) - $10.3 M
Finding Dory (1,733 theaters) - $4.4 M
The Legend of Tarzan (1,503 theaters) - $3.2 M
Shouldn't Killing Joke be #10?
it made 3.3 million on Monday.
I really hope Star Trek Beyond does well. I know it's the third movie, so it will probably makes less than the movie before it, but it's the first real Star Trek movie of the bunch. This is the reboot I wanted to see.
Reading the reaction in the spoiler thread from is like reading opposite world. Like calling Into Darkness better...? In what world is that piece of shit better than anything?
So of course, the first actually well-written ST movie will do worse than the stupid and loud previous ones. Kill me. Please.
Watching that Half In The Bag, I realized that it's been a long time since Mike seemed so genuinely happy and excited about a movie. He called Beyond one of his favorite movies of the past few years.
Comparing the numbers of Beyond and Into Darkness on Box Office Mojo just bums me out. I hope it does well in China.
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