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Wkd BO 1111-1316 - Strange guy and Trolls win, beat out female-lead Arrival
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Marvel has the Celestials and The Eternals, anything beyond that is just gravy
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
True. But with the recent X-Men films: First Class, Days of Future Past and Apocalypse and Deadpool being generally viewed as good films, it's a step in the right direction, but yes you are correct, there is a lot of work to be done.
Though I think FOX realizes as such and are keen to do these characters justice as moving forward, their film slate will mostly be comprised of this in the near future (and they need everything to work well for them as they don't have the machine Disney has or the wealth of properties to work with):
- James Cameron projects (Avatar, Alita)
- Marvel/ Projects (X-Men, Deadpool, Fantastic Four)
- Ridley Scott projects
- FOX staples (Apes, Predator, Alien)
- FOX Animation (Blue Sky, Dreamworks)
Though I think FOX realizes as such and are keen to do these characters justice as moving forward, their film slate will mostly be comprised of this in the near future (and they need everything to work well for them as they don't have the machine Disney has or the wealth of properties to work with):
- James Cameron projects (Avatar, Alita)
- Marvel/ Projects (X-Men, Deadpool, Fantastic Four)
- Ridley Scott projects
- FOX staples (Apes, Predator, Alien)
- FOX Animation (Blue Sky, Dreamworks)
I'm happy they kept the later Kirby stuff. But half of Marvel Cosmic is locked into Fox ownership. No Skrulls, no Shiar, no Badoon, no Galactus, no Surfer, no Negative Zone.
Maybe we'll get some Kymellians or Dire Wraiths at some point.
Fox definitely isn't hurting for IP. Universal is having a resurgence, but I would have placed them third after Disney and WB before that. They might still be third if they can manage the Marvel stuff better.
Sibersk Esto
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X-Men Apocalypse was considered a good film? News to me.
If I see a kymellians on screen i will literally screen like a 8 year old girl and dare anyone to say anything to me about it.
Yeah, and now with Dr Strange and the upcoming Thor movie
and Agents of Shield
I wanna see some elder gods.
Manmademan
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IIRC marvel CAN use the skrulls, but chose not to for Avengers 1. Only super skrull (and almost certainly power skrull, his shitty knockoff) is off limits.
How about The Six Fingered Hand? Never google Six Fingered hand without adding Marvel, you will see some shit
You will not disrepect Paibok THE POWER SKRULL!!!!
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Agreed and I'm hoping this happens.
I thought it was okay/good, an obvious step-down from Days of Future Past
Manmademan
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everyone disrespects the power skrull.
Ben grimm respected him
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Geez, seems like Fox can keep the X-Men away while producing shitty Gambit movies to keep the license.
The contract specifically mentions the characters and the movies/books Universal can use for their theme park rides, but I get your point.
I don't think they can do that without Marvel's approval.
Marvel is known for shitty deals. According to this one book on Marvel's history, at one point they sold all the distribution rights to all the characters for all media for something like $2500 bucks lol. Its a miracle they got the spidey rights back in the 90s only to sell them to Sony. As a matter of fact, even this latest spidey deal is crap for them, unless some info is not publicly known.
No, that movie sucked ass. Only good XMen movies were XMen 1 and 2. DOFP was okayish as well.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
As in regards to the Skrulls rights, some are at Marvel, some are at FOX.
They wouldn't exactly be out of place in Guardians. I hope that James Gunn continues to dig deep, even if it's only for easter egg stuff.
I don't know if you watch the cartoon, but they had Luntik(the prototype Lobo one), shocked the hell out of me. Almost as much as them playing "The boys are back in town" in a kid's cartoon.
I really want to be that guy that does the research for them on characters and shit to use.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
If the contract language is the same as the one established for the X-Men rights, they can. They need Marvel's approval if the character's powers are altered - hence why FOX licensed Ego the Living Planet for Guardians of the Galaxy 2 in order for Marvel to sign off on altering Negasonic Teenage Warhead's powers in Deadpool.
I don't watch cartoons anymore, but that's pretty cool. Maybe I'll convince my daughter to go through some of the better stuff on Netflix with me when she is a year or two older. She already likes Spider-man in his capacity of being on a ton of licensed crap. Batman is a no-go, since her older cousin was watching an episode of one of the newer series that featured Clayface, She thought it was the snow monster from Frozen (which she's terrified of). Now Batman is bad.
Disney bought back the merchandising rights. Given that Sony Pictures will have to die before giving up the franchise, I am sure they are fine with that, being able to use Spider-man in Avengers stuff, and whatever modest cut they are getting from Homecoming and its sequels for their production credit.
My nephew is really in love with Tony Stark and Miles Morales. I am trying to do better by him
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Doesn't he have insane alimony or paternity payments?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
lol I wouldn't know about that one, nothing was written in the press about it, sorry.
Nic Cage made your average NFL player look fiscally responsible when he was younger. Dude made over $100M in the 90s/early 2000s, but is now stuck taking whatever jobs he can get to pay his bills/debt.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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That's a big if. I wouldn't put it past Marvel to make such a shitty deal, but based on what I have seen, Fox can't cross FF over to XMen and vice versa without Marvel's approval.
They already owned all the merchandise rights prior to this latest deal. Disney actually had to pay Sony a fee for Amazing Spider man 2. Marvel will get no cut from Homecoming or its two sequels, Feige and co will be paid for their production. I have broken down in detail why I think it is such a one sided deal in favor of Sony, so I won't touch on it here.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Pretty much. It's their only remaining tentpole (Bond is MGM) outside of their animation business, if Spiderman goes, so does Columbia Pictures. Their TV business is stellar though.
Wasn't Nic Cage in serious tax trouble for a while? Like jail time tax trouble.
Yes. Which is why he sold off his comic collection (or at least some of the showcase books) among other things.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Understood. But I don't see why X-Men and Daredevil's contracts, who all shared the same similarities, would suddenly differ and have other technicalities exclusively for Fantastic Four.
At this point, we won't know until FOX announces their next wave of Marvel films or another lawsuit emerges between the two parties lol
Sibersk Esto
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I'm pretty sure Cage owns some weird European castles or something
hodayathink
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It's more fun that that. Rooney Mara, her sister, is named after her grandparents, the owners of the Giants (of course) and the Steelers (the Rooney Rule is named after them). Their paternal line owns the Steelers.
Like Kswiston said, worse than an NFL player
CaviarMeths
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I'd like to think that if I had $100mil, I'd just live in a sensibly sized house on a quiet street, travel in my down time, and have some nice shit. But who am I kidding, I would buy like 6 castles in Europe.
I think he sold those, in part because of taxes and in part because castles are really expensive to maintain. Edit: I see kswiston has brought it up already.
Something something Constantin. There's a reason Fox doesn't distribute the FF movies in Germany, unlike e.g. the X-Men movies.
When was the last time such similar movies appealing to pretty much the same audience have gone head to head?
57-59% drop from last weekend. Last Friday was inflated though.
I really don't know, but yeah theres definitely going to be a ton of overlap.
Wow, not that bad actually.
shira
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all the IMAX here are FB
Is that good? Its not the 60% drop you talked about last week or is this just a thing in the first week?
It's OK given the circumstances. Strange probably won't hit $250M unless legs really improve going forward, but it will still end up somewhere over $225M. It will hit $200M next weekend. Probably on Saturday.
Weekend Studio Estimates:
1) Fantastic Beasts- $75M
2) Doctor Strange- $17.6M - $181M total
3) Trolls - $17.5M - $116M
4) Arrival - $11.8M - $43M total
$572M for Doctor Strange worldwide. Chinese total is now past $100M.
Kids don't care about the Potterverse. Only 18% of the audience was <18
1) Fantastic Beasts- $75M
2) Doctor Strange- $17.6M - $181M total
3) Trolls - $17.5M - $116M
4) Arrival - $11.8M - $43M total
$572M for Doctor Strange worldwide. Chinese total is now past $100M.
Kids don't care about the Potterverse. Only 18% of the audience was <18
It's a very dark movie sometimes and not kids friendly at all. I'd compare it to something like Gremlins, to be honest. I'm not surprised Trolls might be preferred over this by parents with kids.
Sibersk Esto
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No kid characters in Fantastic Beast's marketing either, unlike Harry Potter.
Gentleman Jack
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The kids who read the books are in their thirties now, but yeah if they wanted that audience they should have played to it.
BronsonLee
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75 seems totally fine for Beasts
frankie_baby
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Reviews are good so if that translates in to word of mouth that could give it decent legs til rogue one hits
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