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Wkd BO 123016-010216 - New Year, same old 'One' as Sing continues back-up
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we were saying "y'all jokers are crazy if you think BvS isn't smashing $1 billion with ease" at the beginning of last year
and yet here we are
I now assume the worst for DC films. 500-600m for wonder woman sounds about right to me, maybe less.
Gentleman Jack
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They will cast a lily white manlet as the 'half asian' lead in your biopic and you will take your cameo as the cabana boy with a rough accent and like it.
BronsonLee
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I will not allow my estate to do this, unlike Bruce Lee's
STRICT
CREATIVE
CONTROL
Pirates 4 made it to a billion on Penelope Cruz in a moustache
If Pirates is good that's an even bigger problem.
Lord Frieza
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You say this after SS with an almost entirely unknown crew of characters with terrible reviews and WoM made $700 million in the box office. Lol, I mean, sure a lot of people said that about BvS, but still, the thing made a ton, even if it didn't break a billion. Assuming the worst on those numbers is pretty silly.
That and people want a strong female led franchise.
I mean fuck, Hunger Games cleaned up.
BronsonLee
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SS was powered by Harley & Deadshot, the best trailer of the year, and Joker bait n switches
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I heard that's how you made your first billion, too.
There's still time for Batman to show up here.
I mean, it worked great for Ghostbusters, right?
Lord Frieza
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And yet, the movie wasn't front-loaded after some of the worst reviews and WoM of the year, and managed to make more than just about anyone here predicted. The denial is a deep one.
Poor GRIMES
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We really going to compare Ghostbusters to Wonder Woman?
It not earning more than Warcraft was a disgrace.
BronsonLee
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Don't judge me
Batman: WWI Edition
That movie had a budget of 50 mil too goddamn much
SS was sold on Joker, Batman, Will Smith(his effect is minimal), and Margot Robbie in short shorts. Combined with releasing in a dead month and good hot topic marketing campaign, plus 2 years of hype buildup.
WW has none of this. The cast isn't even a draw.
BronsonLee
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Why the fuck are we even talking about Squad anyways, we did that for like 3 months already
I thought 2016's movie summer was bad, but it seems like we ain't seen shit yet.
Poor GRIMES
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Hul.
We need to stop pretending like WW is going to bomb. Did anyone even know who Chris Evans was before Captain America?
Wonder Woman at the very least has decades of iconism and familiarity within the general public. Certainly much more than Iron Man or Captain America during their debuts.
She'll be fine
Is sub 500 a bomb? What's the budget?
BronsonLee
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I did but that's because I loved Scott Pilgrim & The Losers
Also by BO-GAF's standards, Cap 1 bombed
broncobuster
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Yeah. And Suicide Squad didn't release in China. Same with Deadpool. Both were hugely successful.
Having the full context of the year makes seemingly underperforming movies like BvS and Civil War not too shabby. I think despite the fatigue narrative audience continue to go see these movies.
That said, I'm expecting less for Wonder Woman. In that upper $500mil range, which would still be big success all told.
According to Wiki, $100m-$120m
Mix Master
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Doctor Strange numbers for WW imo.
Lord Frieza
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I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say WW is a guaranteed $700 million or whatever, but the total dismissal of the potential of it is pretty silly to me. There's a decent amount working for the movie that it could be a big success. We'll see when we get there, though. I think people are just so cynical here about the quality of the DCEU they can't see past that.
Also, no MCU actors sell. Their franchises sell.
As proven by Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence being not worth a damn in terms of getting people to go and see Passenger.
Sibersk Esto
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Everyone sleeping on Baywatch.
A better example is RDJ in The Judge.
I'm not sure how realistic that is though, given the DCU budgets so far. That would make the movie cheaper than all (recent) DCU and MCU movies.
BronsonLee
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To be fair that shit was inexplicably high in budget
Compare it to him as Sherlock instead
At least the goal was to remind people RDJ can actually act.
Like it didn't work at all, but the intent was honorable.
BronsonLee
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That movie got made so RDJ could make out with teenagers and do a heavy stunt of falling over a bicycle
broncobuster
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Personally I don't feel excitement polls are worth a damn, but for those who do, recently Wonder Woman is quite high on the list. Below Star Wars, obviously, and GotG2 but above Spider-Man HC and Logan. Also has it above Fast 8, and I don't believe it'll make more than that.
Yet the sad reality is it's the largest budget for a female directed, female led blockbuster.
First one made a good chunk at least, as it should, as it's perfect.
The fourth one was awful. But I really liked the first three Verbinski films.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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What I wouldn't give to have had boxofficeGAF around when Matrix Reloaded gotten beaten by a fish movie and a pirate movie that was expected to be the biggest bomb of the summer.
I know, but if we look at DCU movies, we have 225m (MoS), 250m (BvS) and 175m (SS). We get another 200m if we take Green Lantern into account. Surely they would not cut their usual budget in half for WW.
Somewhat unrelated, but is it just me, or did they kind of drop the ball with the casting for WW? There's Chris Pine and...uh...Robin Wright?
MHWilliams
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It's clear the DC movies have a much higher ceiling on them than Marvel's offerings.
The only reason they're not taking over the bank is because they keep making poor films. Once they get that under control, the money will come rolling in.
Of course, you also have to hand it to Marvel for making magic out of what it had.
The only reason they're not taking over the bank is because they keep making poor films. Once they get that under control, the money will come rolling in.
Of course, you also have to hand it to Marvel for making magic out of what it had.
Mix Master
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Agree, however DC is making movies with higher tier characters. Where as Spidey and X-men are locked up elsewhere. Marvel makes movies with B tier scubs all the way to D listers like Strange.
MHWilliams
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Yup. Pretty much the reason behind Marvel's dilemma.
Dash_Riprock
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Do you seriously just compare Chris Evans to Gal Gadot? The man has no range but compared to her he's motherfucking Daniel Day Lewis.
Are we really going to compare Captain Thormerica starring Gal Gadot to a pop-fueled stylized movie with Harley and the Joker?
Discotheque
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He's pretty shit but yeah much better than gadot at this point.
But no he's comparing their bankability with audiences. Which to be fair he had like none at that point, much like gadot. So chill.
Dash_Riprock
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He still doesn't. As has been said above, none of the MCU actors have a draw outside the films, not even RDJ.
ViewtifulJC
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actors being draws
IN 2017
IN 2017
Mix Master
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Facts, Gits will test johansson if she is a draw though.
Lucy isn't a better tell? Even if Gits does breakout couldn't it be said it's the franchise and science fiction setting doing a lot of that?
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