A movie on top (since 99) that is atleast decent.
TDK is fine and more than decent. Marvel hasn't set an extremely high bar with their films but Avengers was good fun. Enough to crack my top 4 and qualify as decent.
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Wkd Box Office 0101-0316 - Hate flows through BO as TFA eyes all-time DOM record
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TDK is fine and more than decent. Marvel hasn't set an extremely high bar with their films but Avengers was good fun. Enough to crack my top 4 and qualify as decent.
Bro, Titanic's the best Cameron joint in that 10.
Ehh, I'm just not a superfan of Titanic, although I haven't watched it in years.
If you haven't figured it out by now maybe you need another feline asswhooping!
BronsonLee
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Still my favorite film of all time because of the care and detail Cameron spent re-creating the events of that night and the days before it. I saw it once in theaters during its original run (I was 10) and 3 times during the 3D re-release. I also own like... 6-7 copies on home video over the different versions and formats over the year.
Kagari, its time you and I had a talk - intervention time.
Seriously I own maybe 2 versions, I get rid of the CD/DVD stuff as soon as its legacy.
BronsonLee
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I've never owned Titanic because I only buy good movies
*is immediately kicked in the face by Kagari*
*is immediately kicked in the face by Kagari*
I still have my VHS copies! Only the remaining ones I kept along with the Star Wars trilogy THX editions.
A movie on top (since 99) that is atleast decent.
3 of the top 10 are Star Wars films, and half of the top 10 are Disney* films. Not bad.
*Disney may not have owned Star Wars and Phantom Menace when they actually came out, but they do now.
So what I told you is true, from a certain point of view.
They don't own the rights to a new hope
BronsonLee
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John Dunbar
correct about everything
considering that jurassic world got almost within 100 million this year and star wars passed it the same year, i don't think avatar's domestic gross is out of reach the same way than say titanic was for so many years. worldwide, especially with the current currency rates, avatar's worldwide gross is probably a pipe dream for a long time though.
N-No...
I think one thing we've learned this year, though, is that franchises like JP and Star Wars are still bigger at the box office than Superhero films. What franchise do you see surpassing Avatar other than future SW films? A black swan film seems more likely.
Mr. Pointy
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What if Terminator 2 3D earns another $1+ billion?
Bobby Roberts
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
BronsonLee
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AND NO ENYAHRAHTUTUBEES
Bobby Roberts
Banned
what elf
Two Lucas
3 years from now, Lucas will probably be off the top 10 domestic chart for the first time since 1977.
BronsonLee
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Why do you taunt me so, Bobby
You know I'm just going to take over the world with all these Gundams!
Fucking hell
ryutaro's mama
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Well, now that this is out the way, congrats to the Walt Disney Company.
Now I'm hitting the snooze button on this thread until credible talk about $2.7 happens or Ride Along 2/13 Hours dethrones SW7 at #1.
Which ever happens first.
Until then, BronsonLee, you have the wheel, man.
Mariah Carey
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This isn't (strictly) a popularity contest, studios are interested in money.
Box office and ticket sales are also traditionally reported in terms of gross because of the wide range of ticket prices (this is more apparent in event and concert sales, which can range from below ten to hundreds of dollars).
Someone brought up the idea of looking at marketshares of films relative to their contemporaries as a way of judging popularity. This doesn't work all that well for older films that played for several years, but it works for things in the last 35 or so years.
Titanic netted about 9% of the total gross of all 1997 releases. E.T. was around 12% of the 1982 releases. Avatar was about 7% of the total gross for 2009 films. Jurassic Park was around the same for 1993 films. It's too early to tell with The Force Awakens, but it will probably end up with something between 8-9% of the gross for 2015 releases.
Obviously attendance has gone down over the last 35 years, so 8% of the gross today constitutes fewer people than 8% of the gross 35 years ago, but it's a pretty good indicator of relative popularity for the era.
Titanic netted about 9% of the total gross of all 1997 releases. E.T. was around 12% of the 1982 releases. Avatar was about 7% of the total gross for 2009 films. Jurassic Park was around the same for 1993 films. It's too early to tell with The Force Awakens, but it will probably end up with something between 8-9% of the gross for 2015 releases.
Obviously attendance has gone down over the last 35 years, so 8% of the gross today constitutes fewer people than 8% of the gross 35 years ago, but it's a pretty good indicator of relative popularity for the era.
Bobby Roberts
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That's a pretty solid idea, actually. Damn.
Also it's nuts that The Force Awakens is threatening a billion domestic and would only end up between 8-9% thanks to stuff like Furious 7, Avengers 2, and Jurassic World going apeshit.
Bobby Roberts
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That's still 100k under Furious 7, but it's about 100k over Ultron, right?
Yes, but the presales trend has increased since either of those, so we'll have to see how that translates into opening dollars. Still a good sign for those hoping for closer to $200M.
EDIT: Also, Ultron opened on Monday, so not directly comparable.
Bobby Roberts
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It's all completely nebulous to me, either way. I have like, zero expectations for that region, and no clear idea what it's going to make. I know LFL been pounding concrete like crazy trying to make this movie seem like a thing China really wants, but I have no idea how successful that actually was. Everything about it just seems like a total toss-up. Making like, 125 mil seems about as plausible to me as it making 350.
Disney and Lucasfilm are probably looking at the long game. They likely have 5 more Star Wars films by 2020 between the main trilogy and spin offs. Even if Star Wars isn't a top 10 hit in China this year, a solid performance will pay dividends going forward.
EDIT: I mean, X-Men went from $2M for Last Stand in 2006, to $40M for The Wolverine in 2013, to $115M for DOFP in 2014. Clearly rapid franchise growth is possible in China.
Bobby Roberts
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Absolutely. I think Rogue One is their bigger international gambit, honestly. If this thing doesn't do Furious 7 numbers, so what. At least now there's a baseline, something to work from. So when Rogue One rolls in next year, with Jiang Wen and Donnie Yen right up front as main Rogues, and (possibly/probably) Darth Vader in the mix?
The China guys on Box Office Theory are telling me that across all the ticket selling sites, The Force Awakens is performing on par with what Terminator Genisys did at the same point. That made $26M first day. They are expecting upwards of $30M for Star Wars first day.
Better than things were looking yesterday I guess. With good, but typical Chinese legs, that would be about $170-190M.
Better than things were looking yesterday I guess. With good, but typical Chinese legs, that would be about $170-190M.
Mr. Pointy
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So is TFA likely to hit $2 billion WW / pass Titanic or is there a good chance it'll finish under?
In the BO prediction thread, I said $1.9+ billion, though my US / int. split was more like 1/3rds / 2/3rds.
In the BO prediction thread, I said $1.9+ billion, though my US / int. split was more like 1/3rds / 2/3rds.
it's 100% going over $2 bil
Mr. Pointy
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What are the chances of it passing Titanic?
i think it's unlikely at this point
Sorcerer
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I imagine at some point, Disney will completely rule the domestic top ten, between Avengers and Star Wars.
I don't think they do previews in the sense of the US. At least the theater near where I am in Beijing only will do a midnight showing and the alternate tracker (maoyan) lists midnight sales:
http://piaofang.maoyan.com/movie/78536?_v_=yes
I guess we can do a final day before tally:
Minions (final gross - $68,490,000)
12.09.2015 Beijing time 00:01 -- Minions - 57328 (Premier)
Jurassic World (final gross - $228,740,000)
09.06.2015 Beijing time 00:00 -- JW - 73115 (1 day before premier)
10.06.2015 Beijing time 00:00 -- JW - 184599 (Premier)
Furious 7 (final gross - $390,910,000)
2015-04-11 23:36 - 472,900 (24 minutes before premier)
2015-04-12 (Premier)
Age of Ultron (final gross - $240,110,000)
05-10 22:31 250,953 (1.5 hours before premier)
05-11 (Premier)
TFA:
http://www.gewara.com/movie/224406330
1 pm ~336k (10 hours before premier)
2 pm 370,094 (9 hours before premier)
3 pm 405,750 (8 hours before premier)
Based on? Haven't seen anything suggesting it won't.
jeeeeeeeeesus
Mr. Pointy
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China might push TFA past Titanic after all.
Mr. Pointy
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^380630 at the moment
PhoncipleBone
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And barring an extremely ridiculous (and impossible) drop this weekend, Force Awakens will become the first film to make $800m domestic.
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