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[Surfinn]

Jurassic World had a 13x opening day multiplier, but I think that was a Wednesday opening so opening day wasnt expected to be as high. Still, it was looking like $175m but ended up hitting $228m. Age of Ultron did the opposite. First day suggested 250-275m but it stopped under 235m.

I wouldnt say that $200m for Star Wars is impossible yet if the stars align properly, but setting that as the floor will probably lead to disappointment.

That's a pretty decent swing for both movies. Is there a way to determine how much that percentage has risen for presales accounting for 58%? 42% is still a lot of wiggle room.

Part of the issue is the franchise in tot really well known in China and if you look at it cold the market there s basically being asked to jump in despite missing the first six episodes. Imagine you had never heard of something then see adverts to see seventh instalment of something? That said the market has done so in the past if the film clicks culturally. Not sure TFA will do so enough to deliver truly huge numbers for the region but it's impossible to tell.

I do have to chuckle Sherlocks cinema release in China might also dampen sales. But he is the worlds greatest detective and I understand the IP is huge in China.

I'm sure TFA will do enough to increase its WW haul but it does seem the upper and lower boundaries are large for the film so it's a bit of a nail bitter expectation wise.

Good points. However, I personally know a lot of people who saw the movie without viewing any of the previous 6 films and loved it. The advertising has been geared toward bringing casual viewers in, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out when the movie opens. Didn't they show all 6 movies there recently? Or were planning to? Thought I read something like that.

 

[BronsonLee]

Saw TFA again tonight. Mostly empty theater, besides the one family next to me where the husband was just NOT down with anything whatsoever with the new characters. He'd literally throw up his hands in disgust anytime anything happened with them, OR anything that felt like a retread on the previous movies. What a goof.

On second watch, it's basically the same. First 30 is baller. The rest is eh.

 

[kswiston]

Saw TFA again tonight. Mostly empty theater, besides the one family next to me where the husband was just NOT down with anything whatsoever with the new characters. He'd literally throw up his hands in disgust anytime anything happened with them, OR anything that felt like a retread on the previous movies. What a goof.

On second watch, it's basically the same. First 30 is baller. The rest is eh.

2 viewings for a movie you didn't even really like?

There's other films out there to see. You are stealing food out of the mouths of Mark Wahlberg's children.

 

[Kagari]

Saw TFA again tonight. Mostly empty theater, besides the one family next to me where the husband was just NOT down with anything whatsoever with the new characters. He'd literally throw up his hands in disgust anytime anything happened with them, OR anything that felt like a retread on the previous movies. What a goof.

On second watch, it's basically the same. First 30 is baller. The rest is eh.

Should have seen Hateful Eight instead.

 

[munchie64]

Star Wars is the best movie in the last 100 years. Everyone should see it 5 times.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Saw TFA again tonight. Mostly empty theater.

On a Wednesday after school and work is back.

Well, I for one am S-H-O-C-K-E-D.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

2 viewings for a movie you didn't even really like?

Oh there were a few particular people that were most vocal about hating Avatar and saw it multiple times...for...family...friends...uh...reasons

 

[BronsonLee]

2 viewings for a movie you didn't even really like?

There's other films out there to see. You are stealing food out of the mouths of Mark Wahlberg's children.

If it helps, I used a promo ticket. And used it on Mockingjay, then snuck into TFA instead.

I also watch movies way too fucking much since there's a really nice theater like 5 mins away, and it's cheap as hell. My first viewing of TFA was also..well, let's say botched.

Should have seen Hateful Eight instead.

I already saw the 70mm Roadshow Version there! Do you want to kill me?! I couldn't handle that twice!

On a Wednesday after school and work is back.

Well, I for one am S-H-O-C-K-E-D.

CREED WAS FULL THO. And the Indian movie they were showing!

 

[ryutaro's mama]

CREED WAS FULL THO. And the Indian movie they were showing!

Rocko bout tah eat at the Double Gs on Sunday, kid.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I do wonder what tonight's gonna look like.

 

[BronsonLee]

Rocko bout tah eat at the Double Gs on Sunday, kid.

It's probably because I bought all the tickets to that showing of Creed

I appreciate FINE ART, DAMMIT

I do wonder what tonight's gonna look like.

Probably a bit of a drop, but nothing major. After the amount of money it's made, it's basically just hunting and pecking now

 

[kswiston]

I do wonder what tonight's gonna look like.

My guess is $6.75M

 

[Bobby Roberts]

My guess is $6.75M

If so, that would put it over Hateful Eight's first Friday in wide release.

(granted, it's got an hour less runtime and twice the theaters)

 

[BronsonLee]

If so, that would put it over Hateful Eight's first Friday in wide release.

(granted, it's got an hour less runtime and twice the theaters)

Here's a query. If I made you pick, TFA or Hateful Eight?

I'd go Hateful Eight, but eeeeeehhhh...that one I can only really watch once. The Roadshow stuff definitely helped.

 

[kswiston]

If so, that would put it over Hateful Eight's first Friday in wide release.

(granted, it's got an hour less runtime and twice the theaters)

Actually, I forgot that some schools didn't resume session until Tuesday in the US. Typically Tuesday is a 10-20% increase, and Wednesday is a ~25% decrease. It looks like adult-centric films all got a big boost yesterday, but the ones that appeal to school aged people had small drops (larger if they happened to appeal to little kids).

If we get the normal Wednesday drop, TFA will be closer to $6M. I guess I will stay optimistic and say $6.5-6.75M though. A more steady daily IMAX gross might even out the weekdays a bit.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Actually, I forgot that some schools didn't resume session until Tuesday in the US. Typically Tuesday is a 10-20% increase, and Wednesday is a ~25% decrease. It looks like adult-centric films all got a big boost yesterday, but the ones that appeal to school aged people had small drops (larger if they happened to appeal to little kids).

Kung Fu Panda is on the 29th, right?

 

[kswiston]

Kung Fu Panda is on the 29th, right?

Yes.

As for this weekend, it looks like they are pushing the Revenant in over 3300 venues. Higher than I would have guessed. Iñárritu's previous wide release record was 1250 screens for Babel.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Here's a query. If I made you pick, TFA or Hateful Eight?

Force Awakens.

Hell, here you go - I'm at a two screen theater. One screen is playing Star Wars. The other is playing any one of the following films still in circulation:

TFA vs. Spotlight: Spotlight
TFA vs. Carol: Carol
TFA vs. Creed: Creed
TFA vs. Good Dinosaur: TFA
TFA vs. The Big Short: The Big Short
TFA vs. Spectre: TFA
TFA vs. Daddy's Home: TFA
TFA vs. Joy: TFA
TFA vs. Brooklyn: Brooklyn
TFA vs. The Martian: TFA (that was a hard call, actually)
TFA vs. Concussion: TFA

As for this weekend, it looks like they are pushing the Revenant in over 3300 venues. Higher than I would have guessed. Iñárritu's previous wide release record was 1250 screens for Babel.

Fox is about to feel the Weinstein's pain, I think.

 

[BronsonLee]

Oooh, this'll be fun. I'll only focus on the movies I've actually seen.

Force Awakens.

Hell, here you go - I'm at a two screen theater. One screen is playing Star Wars. The other is playing any one of the following films still in circulation:

TFA vs. Creed: Creed
TFA vs. Spectre: TFA
TFA vs. The Martian: TFA (that was a hard call, actually)

With you on the first two for sure. Spectre was such a goddamn disappointment to me for sure.

I'm iffy on that third one, but I really liked the Martian. It was way too goddamn long as well, though.

Anyways, the most important one is this one

TFA vs. Daddy's Home: TFA

KAGARRRRRIIIIII *shakes fist at sky*

 

[kswiston]

Fox is about to feel the Weinstein's pain, I think.

Giving a 2.5 hour, depressing, R-Rated period piece a $135M budget seems pretty crazy.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

TFA vs. Brooklyn: Brooklyn

WHERE BROOKLYN AT?

WHERE BROOKLYN AT?

 

[BronsonLee]

Giving a 2.5 hour, depressing, R-Rated period piece a $135M budget seems pretty crazy.

Didn't that budget balloon like a motherfucker?

I hope Inarritu cashed in all of his bullshit cred from Birdman on this cause I'm tired of that dude

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Giving a 2.5 hour, depressing, R-Rated period piece a $135M budget seems pretty crazy.

True, but then again, he just won Fox a bunch of Oscars for one of the most wonderfully shot and acted wank sessions ever committed to film, so maybe they were like "Imagine if it wasn't just this dude spanking into the bottom of his chin for two hours with Batman, and there was like, an actual story, with Leo DiCaprio in it!"

 

[duckroll]

Wait, The Revenant cost 135 million? Really? What the hell? Did Leo just cash a 100 mill check for it? It looks like the sort of thing you make for 50-70 million...

 

[kswiston]

True, but then again, he just won Fox a bunch of Oscars for one of the most wonderfully shot and acted wank sessions ever committed to film, so maybe they were like "Imagine if it wasn't just this dude spanking into the bottom of his chin for two hours with Batman, and there was like, an actual story, with Leo DiCaprio in it!"

Haha. It was in the middle of shooting by then. Maybe it gave Iñárritu some leeway when someone should have been riding his ass though. Bronson is right, the budget was supposed to be $60M.

Wait, The Revenant cost 135 million? Really? What the hell? Did Leo just cash a 100 mill check for it? It looks like the sort of thing you make for 50-70 million...

Principle photography went from October 2014 to August 2015.

 

[duckroll]

Principle photography went from October 2014 to August 2015.

.....................

 

[BronsonLee]

.....................

SEE WHAT BIRDMAN DID, DUCK?!

 

[Kagari]

TFA over The Martian? Bobby no :<

 

[kswiston]

.....................

From the few things I have read about the film's production, Iñárritu thinks he's Akira Kurosawa or something.

 

[duckroll]

SEE WHAT BIRDMAN DID, DUCK?!

But I liked the movie.

 

[BronsonLee]

TFA over The Martian? Bobby no :<

Martian is a hell of a lot funnier to me, that's for sure

But I liked the movie.

We all make mistakes. I liked Kickboxing Academy! AND Bloodsport!

 

[3N16MA]

Saw TFA again tonight. Mostly empty theater, besides the one family next to me where the husband was just NOT down with anything whatsoever with the new characters. He'd literally throw up his hands in disgust anytime anything happened with them, OR anything that felt like a retread on the previous movies. What a goof.

On second watch, it's basically the same. First 30 is baller. The rest is eh.

I would have told the goofball that Alvin and the Chipmunks is stellar. Go now before it is sold out.

 

[munchie64]

Iñárritu did nothing wrong.

 

[BronsonLee]

I would have told the goofball that Alvin and the Chipmunks is stellar. Go now before it is sold out.

I think he was a big fan of the OT, and just wasn't satisfied by what they did with the movie. Bit odd since most fans dug it, but people are weird.

I've honestly never seen somebody so visibly displeased with what they were watching and yet still stay for the movie. It felt like dude was nitpicking HARD.

Iñárritu did nothing wrong.

The first thing he did wrong was have such a goddamn complicated last name!

 

[Bobby Roberts]

TFA over The Martian? Bobby no :<

It was reeeeeallly close.

 

[numble]

Another thing about Chinese box office is that the RMB has depreciated since Furious 7 (and even in the last couple of days).

Even if it made the same amount as Furious 7 did in RMB, it would make $23 million USD less.

 

[kswiston]

Another thing about Chinese box office is that the RMB has depreciated since Furious 7 (and even in the last couple of days).

Even if it made the same amount as Furious 7 did in RMB, it would make $23 million USD less.

That's only a 6% drop. Check out the Ruble since Furious 7.

 

[duckroll]

The first thing he did wrong was have such a goddamn complicated last name!

thatsracist.jpg

 

[BronsonLee]

thatsracist.jpg

Abrams, simple
Cameron, even simpler
Enyarahtu or whatever?! I DUNNO!

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

If your latino like me, there's nothing complicated about Iñárritu's last name.

It isn't short, but not complicated.

 

[guek]

Abrams, simple
Cameron, even simpler
Enyarahtu or whatever?! I DUNNO!

 

[munchie64]

I did have to copy paste the name.

 

[kswiston]

Just wait until we get an Icelander as a big name director.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I mean, it's no Krzysztof Kieslowski

 

[Discotheque]

Force Awakens.

Hell, here you go - I'm at a two screen theater. One screen is playing Star Wars. The other is playing any one of the following films still in circulation:

TFA vs. Spotlight: Spotlight
TFA vs. Creed: Creed
TFA vs. The Big Short: The Big Short
TFA vs. Spectre: TFA
TFA vs. Brooklyn: Brooklyn
TFA vs. The Martian: TFA (that was a hard call, actually)

.

yep yep yep

 

[CassSept]

The Martian was so... vanilla. I enjoyed it, but there wasn't anything particularly special about it. I can see why audiences would like it but I don't get how it got such a positive reaction from critics.

 

[jett]

Abrams, simple
Cameron, even simpler
Enyarahtu or whatever?! I DUNNO!

 

[BronsonLee]

NO, NOT HOBBES

 

[numble]

Lu Han (some Chinese pop star), released a new music video and song as part of the Chinese TFA marketing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK1V14s66a0&feature=youtu.be

 

[Ridley327]

From the few things I have read about the film's production, Iñárritu thinks he's Akira Kurosawa or something.

That Hollywood Reporter roundtable interview brings up the budget, and basically shrugged it off as an ends justifying the means kind of thing. That's gonna sound great for the investors on whatever he's working on next!