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Wkd Box Office 01•01-03•16 - Hate flows through BO as TFA eyes all-time DOM record

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rjinaz

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Rth is saying $11-12M Friday for Star Wars and $14.5-16M for Revenant.

EDIT: Remember that Revenant is an opener and had $2.7M in previews before drawing conclusions.

Kind of hope Revenant beats TFA this weekend. Haven't seen it but a lot of people are saying it's a good movie. If that's true it deserves to be #1 for a weekend in my mind. TFA will be close regardless.
 
I was saying that last Sunday, but stronger than typical dailies have been making me more optimistic during the course of the week. I wonder if the strong dailies trend will stop when Star Wars loses the IMAX screens. Anyone have an idea of how those screenings are selling this far out?
The only IMAX dailies I've ever seen for a major releases were for the The Dark Knight Rises @ http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/4780-imax-vs-non-imax-breakdown-for-the-dark-knight-rises/

In that case, there wasn't a huge difference in the daily minutia of percentages, but I can't say for sure that the same would apply in January. Though it may still suggest that IMAX doesn't have that huge an impact in the dailies for a film. Also worth considering is that Avatar didn't have worse Monday declines when it lost IMAX and some 3D screens to Alice in Wonderland.
 
That 2nd weekend of January is definitely gonna bite Star Wars in the ass, then.

3rd weekend seems to generally see a rebound, though. If it continues to drop equal to (or more than) this weekend's drop next weekend, then yeah, that billion domestic lookin pretty wishful.
 
I am so happy that happened, Fords performance was shit

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kswiston

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Also worth considering is that Avatar didn't have worse Monday declines when it lost IMAX and some 3D screens to Alice in Wonderland.

I suppose so. Avatar did have a pretty big drop that week though. Looking at the dailies, it looks like people rushed out to see the film in IMAX that last week, because it increased every day from Mon to Thurs (The only time that happened in its entire run). I wonder if we will see that next week for Star Wars.
 
I'm rooting for Star Wars to get a billion, only for James Cameron to run in, claim that they actually lost money one weekend due to inflation, and then throw a boat at JJ Abrams
 

kswiston

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So to answer someone's joke earlier in the week, it looks like the Wkd BO thread had a better hold than Star Wars this week.
 

Branduil

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Going through the TFA prediction thread again, and very few people predicting $1 billion domestic, even the people predicting crazy WW numbers. The ones who did were like this:

OW: $215,000,000
WW OW: $650,000,000
DOM: $1,500,000,000
OS: $2,500,000,000
WW: $4,000,000,000

boom

OW: $350,000,000
WW OW: $700,000,000
DOM: $1.2B
WW: $3B

A bit liberal, but this is gonna be massive.

OW: 280M
OG: 550M
DG: 1.9B
OSG: 2B
WW: somewhere around 4B



Quoting for posterity. hohoho

OW: 350 M

DOM: 1.5 B

WW: 4.5 B

After seeing what nostalgia did to Jurassic World, it will definitely surpass Avatar by a great deal. It wouldn't surprise me if it did $5B WW.

DOM OW: 325 million
DOM Total: 1.4B
WW Total: 4.8B

On the other hand, this guy was on point:

It will probably make more than warranted based on the quality of the film, which is true of most of the top grossing films of all time.

OW - $550M WW $275M - Domestic

Total $2.25B WW $1B Domestic.

Bold prediction here now:

TFA won't even make more than Avatar 2.

Funny exchange:

If the movie gets high reviews and people love the movie, it will gross 1 Billion + easily

If the movie is terrible it will gross 500-800 million.

It will easily break $1b worldwide. I don't think anyone doubts that. How high above that is the debate.

Assuming he doesn't mean domestic, which going by this thread is not a failsafe assumption.

Very true:

This thread is gonna be a fun read in early January.

Hope in January, we'll say " Wow we have underestimated that monster "
 

Syf

Banned
all they need to do to reach a billion is re-release this with jar jar in the crowd on the planet that gets destroyed
 

Toothless

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Disgusting that The Revenant will be above TFA for a single day. It looks terrible. At least Ride Along 2 or Kung Fu Panda 3 would be amusing films to end TFA's reign; Revenant... blah!
 
Here lemme make another worthless filler reply just to pad the gap more.

You gotta pick up the slack for me!

My best contribution to a TFA prediction thread was getting yelled at for saying that screenings at like 3 AM were stupid as hell

Disgusting that The Revenant will be above TFA for a single day. It looks terrible. At least Ride Along 2 or Kung Fu Panda 3 would be amusing films to end TFA's reign; Revenant... blah!

Why are you no fun
 

Branduil

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$45M is probably the best case scenario for TFA then, which is unfortunately makes $1 billion a pipe dream, even with some sort of aggressive expansion a few months down the road.

$45 million would make it much shakier, but not impossible. It would need to make $185 million the rest of the way versus $320 million for Avatar and $100 million for JW.

The Saturday-to-Saturday drop tomorrow should give us a better idea on future weekend drops.
 

BumRush

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Disgusting that The Revenant will be above TFA for a single day. It looks terrible. At least Ride Along 2 or Kung Fu Panda 3 would be amusing films to end TFA's reign; Revenant... blah!

I just got back from it. Amazing movie. Really happy it's having a strong OW.
 

kswiston

Member
First domestic film to pass $100M: The Sound of Music
First domestic film to pass $200M: Jaws
First domestic film to pass $300M: Star Wars
First domestic film to pass $400M: Star Wars -> 20 years after its initial release (Titanic for first run)
First domestic film to pass $500M: Titanic
First domestic film to pass $600M: Titanic
First domestic film to pass $700M: Avatar
First domestic film to pass $800M: Star Wars:The Force Awakens (Tomorrow)

You can probably guess the eventual $900M film.

Not a ton of variety in that list!
 

Anth0ny

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Kind of hope Revenant beats TFA this weekend. Haven't seen it but a lot of people are saying it's a good movie. If that's true it deserves to be #1 for a weekend in my mind. TFA will be close regardless.

Just watched it, thought it was really good. Doesn't deserve to take down Star Wars imo, but I hope it does well. Leo deserves the Oscar. He fucking killed it (though I thought he was better in Wolf of Wall Street, and that didn't do the trick...)



Also Tom Hardy was good but if he wins best supporting over Sly ima be pissed.
 

duckroll

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My best contribution to a TFA prediction thread was getting yelled at for saying that screenings at like 3 AM were stupid as hell

I would actually have watched a 3AM screening on opening day if we could have gotten tickets for the IMAX 3D screening. It was all sold out. 3 AM on a Wednesday night. Sold out. People are crazy. :p
 
I would actually have watched a 3AM screening on opening day if we could have gotten tickets for the IMAX 3D screening. It was all sold out. 3 AM on a Wednesday night. Sold out. People are crazy. :p

This was at like, 3AM Monday morning

People are on the yayo if they think those are good times to watch movies

And goddamnit IMAX 3D can go twist, grrrrrrr
 

-griffy-

Banned
So TFA loses the IMAX exclusivity next week, but is there actually anything opening in IMAX that is gonna push it out? Seems like the next IMAX release is Finest Hours on the 29th, so I'm not sure Star Wars is really gonna lose IMAX screens until then.
 
So TFA loses the IMAX exclusivity next week, but is there actually anything opening in IMAX that is gonna push it out? Seems like the next IMAX release is Finest Hours on the 29th, so I'm not sure Star Wars is really gonna lose IMAX screens until then.

Is 13 Hours opening in IMAX?
 

Branduil

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So TFA loses the IMAX exclusivity next week, but is there actually anything opening in IMAX that is gonna push it out? Seems like the next IMAX release is Finest Hours on the 29th, so I'm not sure Star Wars is really gonna lose IMAX screens until then.

That's an interesting point. If there are non-exclusive but available IMAX screens, I imagine those would go to SW for MLK Jr. weekend.
 

guek

Banned
First domestic film to pass $100M: The Sound of Music
First domestic film to pass $200M: Jaws
First domestic film to pass $300M: Star Wars
First domestic film to pass $400M: Star Wars -> 20 years after its initial release (Titanic for first run)
First domestic film to pass $500M: Titanic
First domestic film to pass $600M: Titanic
First domestic film to pass $700M: Avatar
First domestic film to pass $800M: Star Wars:The Force Awakens (Tomorrow)

You can probably guess the eventual $900M film.

Not a ton of variety in that list!

Good ol' Sound of Music, taking on the box office and Nazis before Space Nazis were even a thing.
 

kswiston

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So Gods of Egypt has a $140M budget and Boxoffice.com's long range forecast currently has it opening to $14.5M.

I think that we have an early candidate in the bomb of the year race.
 
First domestic film to pass $100M: The Sound of Music
First domestic film to pass $200M: Jaws
First domestic film to pass $300M: Star Wars
First domestic film to pass $400M: Star Wars -> 20 years after its initial release (Titanic for first run)
First domestic film to pass $500M: Titanic
First domestic film to pass $600M: Titanic
First domestic film to pass $700M: Avatar
First domestic film to pass $800M: Star Wars:The Force Awakens (Tomorrow)

You can probably guess the eventual $900M film.

Not a ton of variety in that list!
Shit. Thought ET did $400m initial, or before Star Wars, but was wrong.
Like, it missed $400m after the 1985 releases by a few hundred thousand.
 

rjinaz

Member
Going through the TFA prediction thread

Heh reading through that thread I notice some of the loudest detractors in that thread are some of the loudest in this thread. Instead of admitting they were wrong, they now explain why they were right to be wrong. Humble pie is good for you people. Keeps you modest.
 

duckroll

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So Gods of Egypt has a $140M budget and Boxoffice.com's long range forecast currently has it opening to $14.5M.

I think that we have an early candidate in the bomb of the year race.

So this is going to take Jupiter Ascending's place this year as the most obvious bomb early in the year, only to be challenged later in the Summer and Fall by late comers like Tomorrowland and Pan right?
 
Heh reading through that thread I notice some of the loudest detractors in that thread are some of the loudest in this thread. Instead of admitting they were wrong, they now explain why they were right to be wrong. Humble pie is good for you people. Keeps you modest.

I predict that this will in no way annoy the shit out of people for being rude

So this is going to take Jupiter Ascending's place this year as the most obvious bomb early in the year, only to be challenged later in the Summer and Fall by late comers like Tomorrowland and Pan right?

I can't believe I pegged Jupiter so obviously and then fell right into the fucking Tomorrowland trap
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
So Gods of Egypt has a $140M budget and Boxoffice.com's long range forecast currently has it opening to $14.5M.

I think that we have an early candidate in the bomb of the year race.

I will watch that film
on Netflix

Lions Gate stays winning, Hunger who?
 

kswiston

Member
I don't even know what Gods of Egypt is about. The title makes me think of Ridley Scott's Exodus film.

Take the white Egyptians from Exodus, Make them men who transform into gods via super suits, and throw in some shitty CGI. That's a decent approximation of Gods of Egypt.
 

Branduil

Member
Take the white Egyptians from Exodus, Make them men who transform into gods via super suits, and throw in some shitty CGI. That's a decent approximation of Gods of Egypt.

I'm going to watch the trailer and see if this looks as bad as I'm imagining right now.
 
You really need to work on your predictions bro. Lol but seriously some people were kind of rude in that thread honestly. But I digress.

No, you don't digress, you basically rolled in and did some passive aggressive ish and we don't play that

Name names, and explain why they should eat humble pie for not predicting that the damn movie was going to do a billion domestic. That's some dumb shit.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Take the white Egyptians from Exodus, Make them men who transform into gods via super suits, and throw in some shitty CGI. That's a decent approximation of Gods of Egypt.

Mixed with Australian & British accents too!
 

duckroll

Member
I don't even know what Gods of Egypt is about. The title makes me think of Ridley Scott's Exodus film.

You know that popular videogame God of War? Instead of adapting that and letting Sony in on royalties, let's make our own version but with what fans of the series have been asking for all these years.... GODS OF EGYPT.
 

Branduil

Member
Watched the trailer, yep it's bad. LOL at the discount-store trailer guy voice at the beginning.

I actually liked some of the physical set designs, but the CGI, acting, and story looks abysmal.
 

duckroll

Member
I'm not sure if I ever posted this thought on GAF, but after I watched the trailer way back, I was telling people how it was basically how I would imagine a Hollywood blockbuster directed by Tsui Hark if he ever managed to break into the industry there. Not sure if anyone here will get the comparison.
 
So Gods of Egypt has a $140M budget and Boxoffice.com's long range forecast currently has it opening to $14.5M.

I think that we have an early candidate in the bomb of the year race.

Holy balls. Some of the cgi looks so shitty in the trailer. Also, the movie in general looks like ass. I'm not sure who thought this subject matter would hold mass appeal.
 
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