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[vinnygambini]

Is Lionsgate just going to blow all their Hunger Games money on these bad calls

They have a fantastic TV production unit, but at the moment, it seems they are throwing money in the hopes they find the next big thing.

What's working to their advantage is that they have limited exposure as they pre-sell international rights to their films, but still, it's going to be a hard 2016 for them with only Allegiant, Now You See Me 2 and possibly Deep Water Horizon as sure hits (100 mil).

 

[BronsonLee]

Holy balls. Some of the cgi looks so shitty in the trailer. Also, the movie in general looks like ass. I'm not sure who thought this subject matter would hold mass appeal.

Hey, Prince of Persia would've done alright if they didn't totally fuck up the marketing

I liked that damn movie. Disney back then was constantly fuckin' up

They have a fantastic TV production unit, but at the moment, it seems they are throwing money in the hopes they find the next big thing.

What's working to their advantage is that they have limited exposure as they pre-sell international rights to their films, but still, it's going to be a hard 2016 for them with only Allegiant, Now You See Me 2 and possibly Deep Water Horizon as sure hits (100 mil).

Now You See Me 2 is missing one of the main cast, but they added Harry Potter so they're totally safe! /Gonzalez

 

[rjinaz]

No, you don't digress, you basically rolled in and did some passive aggressive ish and we don't play that

Name names, and explain why they should eat humble pie for not predicting that the damn movie was going to do a billion domestic. That's some dumb shit.

I never said that. I said some of the same detractors in that thread are in this thread. Read through that thread and tell me I'm wrong. Bet you'll see some familiar posters.

Not sure what crawled up your butt, but ok first few pages pages:

Holiday openers don't open to hundreds of millions of dollars. Have some perspective:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/month/?mo=12&p=.htm

Because of rabid, crazed fanboys that absolutely must see this shit on midnight.

december release be damned, this thing is going to murder opening weekend records

You're joking, aren't you?

These people have gone full on bonkers.

I'm assuming that it's all the people that said Age Of Ultron would outgross Avatar in the US and all they've done is delete the Marvel title in their previous posts and typed in Star Wars instead.

Dat Phantom Menace outgrossing Titanic.



Waaaaaaait....,

 

[Bobby Roberts]

So this is going to take Jupiter Ascending's place this year as the most obvious bomb early in the year, only to be challenged later in the Summer and Fall by late comers like Tomorrowland and Pan right?

Blackhat's still a bigger moneyloser than all of those though, isn't it?

 

[kswiston]

After Gods of Egypt, the next thing that strikes me as a probable flop is The Legend of Tarzan. That one has a $180M price tag.

I still think overseas will save Warcraft, even if it follows in the footsteps of its videogame movie brethren here.

 

[Branduil]

The December record thing seems obvious in hindsight, but it had never happened before so people thought it was crazy. TFA was the first highly anticipated sequel to be released in December since the LotR sequels, and a)Star Wars is a much bigger film franchise than LotR b)LotR numbers were suppressed a bit by Wednesday openers and much cheaper tickets.

 

[BronsonLee]

Oh lord, Tarzan is a nuke bomb. Yates basically knew he used up all his Harry Potter mojo on that shit so he went back to Fantastic Beasts

I feel like Warcraft will do fine. Seems like it'll catch on somewhere.

 

[rjinaz]

Oh lord, Tarzan is a nuke bomb

I feel like Warcraft will do fine. Seems like it'll catch on somewhere.

Eh I enjoy them, but then I avoid speaking like my guesses are fact for that reason.

Ok I'm obviously tired that post just changed before my eyes.

 

[kswiston]

Blackhat's still a bigger moneyloser than all of those though, isn't it?

Percentage wise, but it was less than half the price of Tomorrowland or Jupiter Ascending, so I am not sure about total dollars lost.

 

[guek]

I feel like Warcraft will do fine. Seems like it'll catch on somewhere.

I have faith in Duncan Jones.

 

[BronsonLee]

Ok I'm obviously tired that post just changed before my eyes.

I have no idea what you mean *magic hand signals*

I have faith in Duncan Jones.

It's definitely a looker, so it has that going for it

 

[rjinaz]

Oh lord, Tarzan is a nuke bomb. Yates basically knew he used up all his Harry Potter mojo on that shit so he went back to Fantastic Beasts

I feel like Warcraft will do fine. Seems like it'll catch on somewhere.

I think it's going to do fine too. I mean I have to see it even though I haven't played the game in 5 years. It's not going to break records though come on.

 

[Branduil]

Someone should start a "will Warcraft make more in China than America?" betting pool.

 

[vinnygambini]

We'll see about Tarzan, it's a David Yates film so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but the trailer left much to be desired.

The first flop on ours hands is coming soon and that's Columbia's 5th Wave film. The hype is palpable...

 

[BronsonLee]

I think it's going to do fine too. I mean I have to see it even though I haven't played the game in 5 years. It's not going to break records though come on.

I think the new running gag is Warcraft beating everything

Someone should start a "will Warcraft make more in China than America?" betting pool.

It'll be like Oblivion, then!

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Someone should start a "will Warcraft make more in China than America?" betting pool.

I thought Korea was the bigger Warcraft market. Or am I thinking of Starcraft?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Nobody gives a shit about Tarzan. Same mistake Disney made with Lone Ranger and John Carter.

Spending 180 million on a Tarzan movie in 2015 is... I don't even know what the fuck people are thinking.

 

[kswiston]

We'll see about Tarzan, it's a David Yates film so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but the trailer left much to be desired.

The first flop on ours hands is coming soon and that's Columbia's 5th Wave film. The hype is palpable...

I wonder what that costs. I was just looking at particularly expensive films that have flop written on them.

I also wonder what Ben-Hur 2016 costs.

 

[rjinaz]

I think the new running gag is Warcraft beating everything



It'll be like Oblivion, then!

I could have sworn people were being serious. I can't take things people say on the internet seriously anymore it seems.

Nobody's gives a shit about Tarzan. Same mistake Disney made with Lone Ranger and John Carter.

Spending 180 million on a Tarzan movie in 2015 is... I don't even know what the fuck peopl are thinking.

Yep going to bomb. It's so easy to predict it's stupid. Jungle Book will do alright though.

 

[Syf]

I thought Korea was the bigger Warcraft market. Or am I thinking of Starcraft?

Starcraft yeah, China is bigger on Warcraft.

 

[BronsonLee]

I could have sworn people were being serious. I can't take things people say on the internet seriously anymore it seems.

There's only one person you can trust in this thread, and his name starts with a B.

Spoiler

Fuck you Bobby, it's me

 

[Branduil]

I wonder what that costs. I was just looking at particularly expensive films that have flop written on them.

I also wonder what Ben-Hur 2016 costs.

...they're remaking Ben-Hur?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Nobody's gives a shit about Tarzan. Same mistake Disney made with Lone Ranger and John Carter.

Spending 180 million on a Tarzan movie in 2015 is... I don't even know what the fuck people are thinking.

But will it gross more than Tarzan and the Lost City did with Casper Van Dien?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

There's only one person you can trust in this thread, and his name starts with a B.

Spoiler

Fuck you Bobby, it's me

You're more consistent at being Bronson Lee than I am, Bronson.

Bronson Lee is RIGHT like Clubber Lang.

But will it gross more than Tarzan and the Lost City did with Casper Van Dien?

Now THIS is a good question.

 

[Alrus]

Studios are still trying to launch YA adaptations in 2016?

 

[guek]

Nobody's gives a shit about Tarzan. Same mistake Disney made with Lone Ranger and John Carter.

Spending 180 million on a Tarzan movie in 2015 is... I don't even know what the fuck peopl are thinking.

Sometimes, I think studios greenlight these kinds of pictures just to see if shit sticks to the wall. And hey, sometimes, albeit rarely, they get a hit they can build into a franchise. Sometimes a production turns out better than expected. Sometimes you get John Carter.

 

[duckroll]

Tarzan costs 180 million? What?! How does that compare to Jungle Book? That one actually looks kinda good...

 

[kswiston]

...they're remaking Ben-Hur?

MGM made bank on that twice already in the past 90 years. Paramount is also desperate.

 

[BronsonLee]

You're more consistent at being Bronson Lee than I am, Bronson.

Bronson Lee is RIGHT like Clubber Lang.

Clubber da GOAT, Rocky back then was bitchmade til' Lang woke him up

Now THIS is a good question.

...Did you make that movie up

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Jungle Book's gonna make a lot of money. People got pretty fucking amped by that teaser that dropped awhile ago.

And then "Bear Necessities" started whistling up

 

[munchie64]

RIP WB Jungle Book

 

[Branduil]

MGM made bank on that twice already in the past 90 years. Paramount is also desperate.

Well, I can actually see this remake being successful, especially worldwide with religious demographics that probably haven't seen either previous film.

 

[duckroll]

MGM made bank on that twice already in the past 90 years. Paramount is also desperate.

Paramount is so desperate to get on any of the new gravy trains they even paid a ton of writers to do that stupid ass Transformers Cinematic Universe writers' summit thing.

 

[vinnygambini]

I wonder what that costs. I was just looking at particularly expensive films that have flop written on them.

I also wonder what Ben-Hur 2016 costs.

Sadly I haven't found anything on 5th Wave production costs but judging by the extensive CGI shots, it's surely north of 50+ mil.

Ben-Hur interests me greatly as it could either a huge failure if developed solely for spectacle, or be successful if played as a faith-film, they've been popular as of late.

Ben-Hur's production costs were 56E and received tax credits of 14E as it was entirely shot in Italy, add CGI effects and the movie will most likely have cost the same as Noah, 100 mil.

http://www.screendaily.com/news/cinecitta-studios-reveals-upswing-from-ben-hur-young-pope/5092632.article

 

[Alrus]

Jungle book will be fine, lots of people fondly remember the animated version. Can't say the same about Tarzan. 180m what the hell were they thinking.

And what the hell was WB thinking with Jungle Book Origins? I'd love to see the budget on that.

 

[JeffZero]

Paramount has been sitting on a franchise (Star Trek) that had a sprawling cinematic universe IN THE 90s. They're strange. I get that there's a degree of perennial stigma to the franchise but nuTrek is a mid-grade breadwinner that, if handled better, would achieve higher numbers.

I am no longer bitter however since a new show is coming.

But Paramount... I could write an essay. So many weird choices, many of which don't pertain to Trek. Just weird choices across the board.

 

[Branduil]

Paramount has been snake-bit with Star Trek even since they murdered it with oversaturation and really bad movies.

 

[Alrus]

Paramount has been sitting on a franchise (Star Trek) that had a sprawling cinematic universe IN THE 90s. They're strange. I get that there's a degree of perennial stigma to the franchise but nuTrek is a mid-grade breadwinner that, if handled better, would achieve higher numbers.

Into Darkness underperformed both commercially and critically, but there's a new one coming out soon (trailer looks meh). I think their hope of the franchise growing overseas are a bit over though.

 

[duckroll]

Ben-Hur's production costs were 56E and received tax credits of 14E as it was entirely shot in Italy, add CGI effects and the movie will most likely have cost the same as Noah, 100 mil.

http://www.screendaily.com/news/cinecitta-studios-reveals-upswing-from-ben-hur-young-pope/5092632.article

We live in a world where a Ben-Hur remake will cost less than half of that of a Lone Ranger reboot. Hollywood... oh Hollywood.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Into Darkness underperformed both commercially and critically

Not really. It was a (very) mild disappointment financially, but critically it got more or less the same positive reception the first one did.

It didn't make as much profit as they wanted, but it still profited.

 

[JeffZero]

Into Darkness underperformed both commercially and critically, but there's a new one coming out soon (trailer looks meh). I think their hope of the franchise growing overseas are a bit over though.

It still came within earshot of half a billion. But yeah, I know. The age of the half-a-billion spectacle success is past us now. They want double.

 

[Branduil]

Into Darkness only made 20% of the gross of JJ Abrams' next film. Total bomba.

 

[kswiston]

We live in a world where a Ben-Hur remake will cost less than half of that of a Lone Ranger reboot. Hollywood... oh Hollywood.

Warner Bros spent $150M on a Dark Shadows movie.

 

[vinnygambini]

We live in a world where a Ben-Hur remake will cost less than half of that of a Lone Ranger reboot. Hollywood... oh Hollywood.

Ahhaha, true though 50 million was set aside for the talent: Jerry Bruckheimer, Johnny Depp and Gore in Lone Ranger. Still though, when said that way, damn.

And pls, Paramount got Michael Bay and Brad Pitt on their side, they set for life

 

[Alrus]

Not really. It was a (very) mild disappointment financially, but critically it got more or less the same positive reception the first one did.

It didn't make as much profit as they wanted, but it still profited.

Huh I thought most people hated Into Darkness but liked the first one, guess I was wrong.

I'm pretty sure they expected a much bigger growth than what they got though, but yeah it wasn't a failure either.

 

[JeffZero]

Into Darkness only made 20% of the gross of JJ Abrams' next film. Total bomba.

Huh I thought most people hated Into Darkness but liked the first one, guess I was wrong.

The internet hates Into Darkness. I like the film a fair bit, but in the final analysis, it's been tepidly-received.

Critically, it was fine, though. Quite fine.

 

[kswiston]

Into Darkness has a 7.8 on IMDB, so it can't be hated by the internet that much.

 

[vinnygambini]

Into Darkness underperformed both critically and commercially

Not quite, Bobby is right, it's ancillary revenues were quite high to boot.

US DVD & Blu-Ray sales totalled over 80 mil and that's excluding Rental, OTT, SVOD, TV syndication, etc.

Paramount is very happy.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Trek-2-(2012)#tab=video-sales

 

[JeffZero]

Into Darkness has a 7.8 on IMDB, so it can't be hated by the internet that much.

Damn, you're right.

Okay, everywhere I turn people on the internet hate it.

 

[guek]

Damn, you're right.

Okay, everywhere I turn people on the internet hate it.

Maybe you just spend too much time on gaf