Wkd Box Office 0712-1413 - many stay true to Gru, less grow up, fewer get rimmed...
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ElbowRocket
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And that's just what I needed to hear :-D
Hellboy 3 is totally dead in the water and will only ever see the light of day as some reboot years from now with some other creative team involved.
At the Mountains Of Madness is now further away than ever as PR has shown that GdT's name isn't big enough in and of itself to bring people through the door. No one is going to spend that amount of money on an R rated horror in this current climate...., sadly.
If I were a betting man I'd think GdT will tackle WB's 'Dark Universe' film after he's finished Crimson Peak for Legendary. It could be exactly the home win he needs after PR etc...,
Not really the same situation. FIlms opening in the fall and films opening in the summer perform very differently as the marketplace itself is very different.
At the Mountains Of Madness is now further away than ever as PR has shown that GdT's name isn't big enough in and of itself to bring people through the door. No one is going to spend that amount of money on an R rated horror in this current climate...., sadly.
If I were a betting man I'd think GdT will tackle WB's 'Dark Universe' film after he's finished Crimson Peak for Legendary. It could be exactly the home win he needs after PR etc...,
Not really the same situation. FIlms opening in the fall and films opening in the summer perform very differently as the marketplace itself is very different.
PaleFolklore
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If Pacific Rim doesn't do well it's going to be very sad. Admittedly I'm not all that interested in Pacific Rim but I think I may just go see it to prove there is an audience for original blockbuster films like it. I'm so tired of superhero bullshit, franchise sequels and reboots nobody asked for(JP4, Terminator 5, Robocop, PotC etc.), and schlock like Transformers. It's gotten to the point where that is basically summer. Rarely is there a new original blockbuster movie with a decent cast, talented director, and compelling story.
Thankfully we still have Neill Blomkamp.
Thankfully we still have Neill Blomkamp.
I wasn't overly enamored with Blomkamp's script for Elysium when I read it but I'm more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
That was of course until I heard the logline for his next film 'Chappie'.
http://www.slashfilm.com/dev-patel-enters-talks-for-neill-blomkamps-chappie/
So Blomkamp's first three films are all in the sci-fi genre and all feature slums and (to one degree or another) robots.
I think Blomkamp is teetering dangerously close to being an 'emperor has no clothes' style one trick pony. District 9 was amazing. But was it a one hit wonder?
Hmmm. Not sure.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I had the feeling you'd like both of those films. When did you get unbanned?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Hmmm. You and Disco both liking Lone Ranger makes me want to see it now. Especially for that final 20 minutes that you two (and many reviewers) talk about.
I will hunt down your impressions of Pacific Rim though. Which of the PR threads were they in, if any at all?
EDIT: Nevermind. Found it. Pretty short and to the point.
The Conjuring seems to be getting good reviews so far. I am going to guess either that or Red 2 will take the coming weekend. Horror has had a pretty good year so far. As for the other openers, Turbo looks like it will be a victim of bad timing (coming so soon after Monsters University and Despicable Me 2) and has an weak concept. R.I.P.D. should be D.O.A.
I think it became more apparent for me once we stopped getting big original ideas from Pixar year in year out when I feels like there are only just the same junvenile franchises repeatedly. Soon Star Wars will join that list as well.
Gaf likes to call out 'Oscar baits' in the fall/winter, but I think it would be worst without the awards season at least making a little room for adult drama.
BattleMonkey
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I think it will do fine and even be somewhat profitable, but highly doubt they will do a sequel with that performance.
People love Transformers. Each movie has been bigger than the last worldwide. Transformers 3 made $1.1B.
I read on one of the tracking sites that it only opened in 50% of the international markets. Not sure if that translates to only 50% of the screens/potential business, however.
It would have to rely on international business to get a sequel at this point.
Also:
https://twitter.com/giteshpandya/status/356774856286666752
It's early yet but that's not a good sign for legs.
Even if it did, it would hit $200M overseas with this past weekend's opening. It still has openings in most of Europe, Japan, and China going forward. China could easily bring in $40-50M on its own. More if it breaks out. Same goes for Japan.
Christopher
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Poor Lone Ranger....it was a good movie
Eventually people are going to have to accept that Pacific Rim might have a lot of blame for it's success, or lack thereof.
Pacific Bomba indeed. :lol
While I enjoyed the movie (and will probably see it again in IMAX), it's no surprise how bad it did at the BO. It's the same story as with shit movies like Scott Pilgrim and Kick Ass; Nearly all the hype came from nerd-circles (anime, comics, video games, etc) and nowhere else. Whereas Transformers and the Marvel/DC movies have get hype from that crowd and the masses.
I tried to get co-workers to go see PR with me, but most weren't interested, or wanted to see Despicable Me 2 instead.
While I enjoyed the movie (and will probably see it again in IMAX), it's no surprise how bad it did at the BO. It's the same story as with shit movies like Scott Pilgrim and Kick Ass; Nearly all the hype came from nerd-circles (anime, comics, video games, etc) and nowhere else. Whereas Transformers and the Marvel/DC movies have get hype from that crowd and the masses.
I tried to get co-workers to go see PR with me, but most weren't interested, or wanted to see Despicable Me 2 instead.
1995 Billy Madison
1998 The Wedding Singer
2002 Punch-Drunk Love
2007 Reign Over Me
That's the best I can do.
Midnight Moon
Banned
I want to see Pacific Rim, sounds cool.
Don't tell me you're going to rep Lone Ranger now. Disney really needs to give you a job. That being said I haven't seen LR so I will reserve judgment until I do.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I'm not as crazy about The Lone Ranger as I am about John Carter, but it is a lot of fun and deserved to kick off a new Pirates type franchise.
Those people always weird me out. If Grown Ups 2 is so bad, it'll get a low score on its own. You don't need to throw a 0 at it.
Eh, Sergio Leone made three films that shared actors, music style, and setting, and everyone loves the Dollars trilogy. Maybe Blokamp is stuck in a niche, but it's all good if he can make that niche work.
That would require giving credit to Transformers 2 for being a massive success.
Marketing is what killed Pacific Rim.
Discotheque
Banned
bruh glad I could help. Film totally took me by surprise. Agree with the last crusade comparisons. It felt like the best (on earth) adventure film since perhaps mask of zorro
I also like John carter more though but seeing both these films flopping when there's so much sequel potential is lame
You can take it further than that. Sergio Leone made 6-7 westerns in a row and he is still regarded as one of the greats. There's nothing wrong with having a niche.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Absolutely nothing wrong at all with Blomkamp being considered a "niche" director. If he's making quality films within that niche, who cares.
I don't understand why that would make him an "emperor with no clothes" as mentioned before. So long as the films are still quality, then he's wearing his clothes well.
I don't understand why that would make him an "emperor with no clothes" as mentioned before. So long as the films are still quality, then he's wearing his clothes well.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Best since Mask of Zorro? Very nice. Loved Zorro. Guess I will have to see Lone Ranger sooner rather than later.
Agree with the last crusade comparisons. It felt like the best (on earth) adventure film since perhaps mask of zorro
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Yeah, do it. It's a pretty damn good adventure movie. Though the pacing could use a little tightening, it at least uses that down time to develop the character and make you care about them. I was never bored in the film like I was with the Pirates sequels. And yeah, that last 20 minutes had me wanting to jump on the back of the dude in front of me in the cinema.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Hmmm. Now to convince my wife. All it might take is to say another person that loved John Carter as much as her really liked it.
Yeah...after a stellar marketing on MoS, I can't believe what WB has done for PR.
Ppl who were responsible for those trailers need to be fired.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
The movie is not boring or feel as long as some critics have said. It feels a lot like Pirates, but that's what they were going for. It's worth a watch.
I don't think it's very good, but don't regret seeing it.
Do itttt!!! Watched it with my sisters, brother and mom and they all love it. I was surprised myself considering all of them hates anything robot/cartoons/special effects heavy film.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
My girlfriend actively didn't want to see it (she hates Johnny Depp) but relented because it was a Tuesday night with nothing better to do. She really, really enjoyed it.
Discotheque
Banned
Armie Hammer is the future. I see marvel or DC actively trying to scoop him up immediately
Definitely a good comparison, though Mask of Zorro is one of the best adventure films. And it is better than John Carter.
Happy to see more people appreciate Lone Ranger ^_^
It has obvious pacing issues like everyone states and not quite sure how serious vs fun it wants to be. But that ending >_<
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Yeah, I was actually really surprised by how much I enjoyed Hammer. I still don't think he could be a go-to leading action man, but he certainly impressed me in TLR.
Edit: I also love how violent The Lone Ranger is. Why is it that whenever Disney gets the balls to let some blood fly, that the movie bombs? Fuck y'all!
TLR was a major major blow to his potential as a leading man. He is mostly seen as a laughing stock currently due to that film's poor critical and commercial reception. He'll need to do a lot to erase that stigma.
Scarecrow
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I'm not sure I get why people keep blaming the marketing for PR. What exactly did the trailers do wrong? What would be a better way to go about marketing a Robots vs. Monsters movie that the existing trailers didn't do?
I just think general audiences don't have an aching desire for this type of movie (unless it's an established brand like Transformers).
I just think general audiences don't have an aching desire for this type of movie (unless it's an established brand like Transformers).
I think Depp is taking a beating rather than Hammer.
As I've said before I could see WB casting him as Batman...., again.
Actually Hammer was the only one who escaped the THR fiasco unscathed. It wasn't a vehicle for him. It wasn't marketed as a Hammer vehicle. He was the titular character but there was never any doubt that this was Depp's show.
Considering WB cast him in Man From UNCLE knowing full well THR wasn't going to fly just shows that there is always need for a handsome, 6'4" leading man with good acting chops in Hollywood. But most importantly while he hasn't opened a film himself he's still cheap.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Maaaaaaan.... I like Armie Hammer, but he would not make a good Batman.
Discotheque
Banned
I dunno about him in the costume. But if you dyed his hair black in social network you pretty much had the perfect young Bruce Wayne
dudes got dat voice and height
dudes got dat voice and height
Scarecrow
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They said the same thing about Mr Mom
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I don't think he's got the voice for Batman. Bruce Wayne, perhaps. But his voice has that pitch - that uber-high American pitch. I can't imagine him talking with the cowl on.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Armie Hammer for Hank Pym.
Just think..., deep within the bowels of WB's Burbank studio is a crate with Batman costume/armour made for Armie Hammer that was created for George Miller's aborted Justice League film.
He even got to wear it. Once.
He even got to wear it. Once.
..., he may even get to wear it again when Rian Johnson or Darren Aronofsky reboot the franchise in a few years with a film loosely inspired by the Arkham Asylum games.
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