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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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kswiston

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Legacy of the Force is horrible. And horrible in a really mean-spirited and ugly way.

I will pretend to know what you guys are talking about.


In other news. This thread is going to end up passing the 24 (100 post) pages we got out of Avengers' opening. Bobby's guess of 30 pages won't be far from the mark.
 

wachie

Member
Age of Ultron was better than Jurassic World in my opinion. I also liked it more than Ep1, The Hunger Games, and perhaps Dead Man's Chest (though I haven't seen that in 9 years, so it's hard to gauge). I did think it was one of the weaker films out of the 20 I have seen over $400M, but I didn't hate it or anything.

Actually Ultron and Dead Man's Chest are pretty comparable in that a lot of the stuff I liked in their predecessors felt played out in the sequel. Comedies usually have the same problem.
Gotcha, I thought you hated it - felt you wasted your money or something on those lines, I must have mixed up someone else's post with yours.
 

kswiston

Member
Gotcha, I thought you hated it - felt you wasted your money or something on those lines, I must have mixed up someone else's post with yours.

It was probably me you are thinking of, but keep in mind I have a young child and only get to go out to the theatre once every 6-8 weeks on average (when she was a baby it was more like once every 3-4 months). It wasn't so much that AoU was a waste of money as it was a waste of one of those rare nights out. For instance, I could have seen Fury Road on the big screen instead of waiting for the digital release.
 

wachie

Member
Ah, so I remembered correctly but with less context. I have a young daughter too, hoping I can catch either Revenant or Hateful.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
I will pretend to know what you guys are talking about.


In other news. This thread is going to end up passing the 24 (100 post) pages we got out of Avengers' opening. Bobby's guess of 30 pages won't be far from the mark.

It was a series of novels in the old Star Wars expanded universe that assassinated established character development and characters in general.
 

kswiston

Member
Ah, so I remembered correctly but with less context. I have a young daughter too, hoping I can catch either Revenant or Hateful.

My brother has a very late December birthday. As such I have an excuse to take the hour drive with him to see a 70mm showing of Hateful 8. Having moved back to a city where I have family has made the babysitter issue less of a trial than it was previously as well.

Here's hoping I can catch a decent number of films in 2016 before I am relegated to going to shit like Chipmunks 5 at the demands of my future 4 year old in 2017.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Just saw the film, I enjoyed it, but it's nothing to write home about.

The film felt serviceable to me, and that's perfectly fine but I expected more given the pedigree of the material. There's not a scene where I say 'wow, that was great', and for a film that reportedly cost $200 million, it's hardly shown on the movie screen.

Still, I'm glad people enjoyed it and are able to share these fond memories and create new ones😃
 
It was on par with Episode III for me, which I saw twice in theaters. I'll see this one twice too but that's it. I don't understand some of the high praise though since it really is just a remake of A New Hope and stars to fall flat after 30 minutes into the film.

For as much shit as people give the prequels at least those were somewhat original.
A lot of bad things are original. A new hope is a good film where bad movies are not. Let's not copy the bad. I get a feeling you are younger than 25, and I do think age makes a difference in what we like.
 

Branduil

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I'm not sure what showing up on screen means in this case, anyway. There were effects I thought could have done better but at no point did I think they were being cheap.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I think we as viewers expect $200M to go as far as it did 18 years ago when Titanic had that budget. $200M is the new $100M.

That's true, though I felt the Star Trek reboot by JJ at $150M had much more panache despite a lower budget. Still, as you said, our expectation may be the problem.
 
Why do people always do this condescending shit?
It's not.. It's simple logic. We will like what we grow up with. Just like I prefer nes etc


I was still about 10 when I first saw star wars. My dad saw it when he must have been near 15 I guess. And I grew up really liking it.

I doubt if I saw it the first time when I was older or very very young that I'd like it in the same way.


Also, not being able to see it originally at the time hurts a lot of our views. But, I am a big fan and was super interested at that first viewimg on three days with my dad and sister.
 
I thought the money was on the screen. Beautiful photography, real sets, lots of on location work, excellent practical effects and CGI (Snoke excepted).
 

jey_16

Banned
Didn't like AoU at all, I think it could be related to the fact that it felt like something I had seen so many times before, have no intention of watching it again honestly which is weird because I enjoyed the first avengers film

Compare that to TFA and JW where maybe they are rehashing previous stories but just really enjoyed them, maybe that will change with the endless franchise films we are about to get
 
I'm an 83 baby but an 87 baby would have expected a greater chance liking the prequels imo, me and my friends in middle school hated them.

Still bought the toys, liked star wars but had little feeling to the prequels. I think it's a smart move to try and copy the formula that made it what it was to begin with.
 

rekameohs

Banned
It starts breathless and hyperventilates by the end. Editing cut this film's kneecaps off in the final 30. They made some not great choices getting this thing down to 2:15 from 2:35, and they probably should have just stayed at 2:35 because a large amount of the film's problems come from short-shrifting the bad guys motivations and machinations, which make for a finale that's not very urgent or impactful outside of the saber fight.

Think of all the fewer showings, though....!
 
I'm ecstatic that they got the movie in at 2:15. I think most blockbusters these days are too bloated. I would have liked another five minutes on the space battle but would have pulled that 5 minutes from the Rathars.
 
When the Special Editions hit theaters in 1997.
Hmm then that makes sense to me. I can see why you don't have the biggest faults of the prequels.

I never saw any of the old films in the cinema though. I've seen them enough to where I'm not sure how I'd feel.

I saw the special editions for the first time this year and the changes did make me feel they are worse films.
 

guek

Banned
Didn't like AoU at all, I think it could be related to the fact that it felt like something I had seen so many times before, have no intention of watching it again honestly which is weird because I enjoyed the first avengers film

Compare that to TFA and JW where maybe they are rehashing previous stories but just really enjoyed them, maybe that will change with the endless franchise films we are about to get

What's most disheartening is how the immense amount of celebration and happiness Star Wars is producing among fans is already starting to be met with contrarian force. By that I don't mean people who don't enjoy the movie are contrarian but there are some who don't enjoy that others enjoy something they did not. The more love TFA gets, the more vocal and obnoxious that counteraction will become with time. Were it a more perfect movie, this might not be the case, but it's just flawed enough that you're inevitably going to see some insufferable shit after all this hype. That's what I predict, anyway.
 

kswiston

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I'm an 83 baby but an 87 baby would have expected a greater chance liking the prequels imo, me and my friends in middle school hated them.

Still bought the toys, liked star wars but had little feeling to the prequels. I think it's a smart move to try and copy the formula that made it what it was to begin with.

My younger siblings are 84-88. I think they were sort of that in-between age where my youngest brother loved Ep1 (he was 10), all of them liked Ep 2 (13-17 at that point), and none of them liked Ep 3 (16-20). That same age group was the perfect age to be introduced to the OT when they re-released in 1997.
 

JeffZero

Purple Drazi
How is there such a difference between 1986 and 1987 perceptions, lol? All my friends growing up were born in '86 and they generally agreed with my '87-born outlooks!
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The 2nd act needed some reworking, the back and forth was tiring - the first 30 mins were easily the best part of the film.

Did anyone see it in 3D, what were the 3D moments, didn't feel like there was any when I saw it in Imax?

And as a 91 kid, I enjoy the prequels more than the original trilogy so I get it too.
 
Bunch a younglings in here. 79 baby. While my first theater experience (according to my parents) was E.T., my first theater memory was Return of the Jedi.
 
I'm glad other people feel the same about the first 30 as I do, that shit was hot fire

The 3D was weak though. I'm not sure why people keep trying to tell me it's anything beyond decent.
 

guek

Banned
The 2nd act needed some reworking, the back and forth was tiring - the first 30 mins were easily the best part of the film.

Funny how TFA's strongest points are in its opening whereas JW's is in its end. Both at least had strong enough scenes to make a lasting impression and that's what matters for word of mouth.
 

kswiston

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I'm glad other people feel the same about the first 30 as I do, that shit was hot fire

The 3D was weak though. I'm not sure why people keep trying to tell me it's anything beyond decent.

2D and 3D IMAX are the same price where I live, so I can't really complain about the surcharge in this case. However, I do feel sorry for those paying for that 3D surcharge on something that isn't a large format venue.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Hmm then that makes sense to me. I can see why you don't have the biggest faults of the prequels.

I never saw any of the old films in the cinema though. I've seen them enough to where I'm not sure how I'd feel.

I saw the special editions for the first time this year and the changes did make me feel they are worse films.

Don't get me wrong, the prequels had some bad stuff in them too. I hated Episode II but III was by far the least offensive.

My perception of Episode VII was also colored by years of investment into the Expanded Universe, so I guess there's that too.
 
And as a 91 kid


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3N16MA

Banned
2D and 3D IMAX are the same price where I live, so I can't really complain about the surcharge in this case. However, I do feel sorry for those paying for that 3D surcharge on something that isn't a large format venue.

I have so many scene points racked that 3D IMAX is about $8. Too bad they raised the point redemption to 1500.
 

guek

Banned
I kinda don't like knowing a poster's age because of how much it can color your view. I'm surprised at how young anaron is, for example, and kinda shocked some posters are as old they are based on their posting history.
 
You're going to summon Old Man Bobby soon.

Oh, I know there are older Gaffers out there, but lately I have been feeling it more than usual on here. This thread is just the latest example.

Old Man GAF assemble!

I kinda don't like knowing a poster's age because of how much it can color your view. I'm surprised at how young anaron is, for example, and kinda shocked some posters are as old they are based on their posting history.

I both like and don't like knowing a poster's age. It does help explain some things about posters though.
 

Anth0ny

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I'm a 92 baby. First watched Star Wars via VHS in 1996. non special editions. fell in love with them instantly. watched those tapes so much I wore them out.

then I saw the special editions in 1997 and thought they were dumb af. "why is jabba in a new hope and why does he look so wrong?"

then I watched episode 1 in the theatre and didn't remember anything that happened after coming out of the theatre. I think I was too young to be capable of thinking "wow, what a fucking disappointment that film was. the plot was nonsense and they are ruining the greatest villain in cinematic history". I was just like

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I was old enough to know that Jar Jar was dumb as fuck, though.

Then Clones came out and I kinda liked it because the lightsaber stuff was flashy. Same deal with Sith. Now I can look back and see how truly fucked those films were and actually articulate how I feel about them.

So naw, there's no nostalgia bias there for me. Shitty films are shitty. Doesn't matter that I was at prime "nostalgia" age to absolutely love them.

Thank god TFA is nothing like those garbage ass films.
 
The 2nd act needed some reworking, the back and forth was tiring - the first 30 mins were easily the best part of the film.

Did anyone see it in 3D, what were the 3D moments, didn't feel like there was any when I saw it in Imax?

And as a 91 kid, I enjoy the prequels more than the original trilogy so I get it too.

I didn't see it in 3D, but the Falcon flying towards the screen on Jakku (before flying into the Star Destroyer) and Kylo turning on his saber next to (force frozen) Rey's face on Maz's planet both seemed to be those moments.
 
I was in college when Episode I hit. I remember waiting in line after a mid term to buy my tickets for it, and grabbing several for my animation teacher. Afterwards she paid me for the tickets and gave me another $50 on top of that just because I saved her the time.

Even if Phantom Menace is a let down in hindsight, the midnight experience for that was still a ton of fun.
 
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