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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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CassSept

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I think the earliest blockbuster I saw in theaters was The Lion King. I swear, we wore out the VHS release so bad my siblings and I could just reenact entire segments of the movie word for word, and eventually the tape just stopped working lol

remember VCR tracking?

Oh man, it was The Lion King for me too. I watched Hercules on VCR much more many times for some reason though. To the point that when I saw it for the first time in a decade I could quote majority of the film verbatim haha.
 

Cheebo

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This is real nice, guys. TFA was still an average blockbuster, and no where near as well crafted of a film as Avatar was.

A movie that is on track to be the highest grossing movie of all time with outstanding word of mouth and very very strong reviews will never be regarded as "average".

It's all but assured claim at the #1 spot, the strong word of mouth, and great reviews are all factual elements of this film that are not a matter of opinion. Unless you think the public AND critics fooled themselves into loving an average movie.

Average movies dont become the highest grossing of all time and have great reviews.
 
The movie itself must have not left a lasting impression :(

*uppercut*

A movie that is on track to be the highest grossing movie of all time with outstanding word of mouth and very very strong reviews will never be regarded as "average".

It's all but assured claim at the #1 spot, the strong word of mouth, and great reviews are all factual elements of this film that are not a matter of opinion. Unless you think the public AND critics fooled themselves into loving an average movie.

Average movies dont become the highest grossing of all time and have great reviews.

I am literally staring directly at Avatar right now

Also, that last line is hilarious as all hell
 

guek

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A movie that is on track to be the highest grossing movie of all time with outstanding word of mouth and very very strong reviews will never be regarded as "average".

Average movies dont become the highest grossing of all time and have great reviews.

Word.
 

Vestal

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1978 here.

First time I saw Starwars was when my dad bought a VCR back in 1982 for Christmas. He rented ANH, Clash of Titans and Excalibur. The following year I saw ROTJ in theaters.

Since then I have been hooked.

Its amazing that I have vivid memories of something 33 years ago like that..
 

Cheebo

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I see the Avatar/Titanic style backlash has begun. Where a small minority claims it is average and undeserving just to be cool and go against the widely held view.

The circle of box office life continues.
 

jackal27

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I see the Avatar/Titanic style backlash has begun. Where a small minority claims it is average and undeserving just to be cool and go against the widely held view.

The circle of box office life continues.

Hey this has been a lot of people's bag for years, even when it comes to even the original Star Wars.
 
I see the Avatar/Titanic style backlash has begun. Where a small minority claims it is average and undeserving just to be cool and go against the widely held view.

The circle of box office life continues.

It's almost like popular movies aren't everyone's bag

You could literally apply your logic to almost any blockbuster ever
 
I see the Avatar/Titanic style backlash has begun. Where a small minority claims it is average and undeserving just to be cool and go against the widely held view.

The circle of box office life continues.

cue Spielberg's "Nobody loves a winner" salty retort
 

Cheebo

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Hey this has been a lot of people's bag for years, even when it comes to even the original Star Wars.

People become much more adamant about it when the film gets to this level of success. The more successful the movie is, the more adamant the idea that the movie is undeserving of its success becomes.
 

Ahasverus

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Titanic is an amazing feat of filmmaking and the true deserver (?) of the 1st place crown. Now Avatar was the biggest fluke I've ever seen. TFA is good and has a symbolic meaning that makes it as deserving for a top place.
 
People become much more adamant about it when the film gets to this level of success. The more successful the movie is, the more adamant the idea that the movie is undeserving of its success becomes.

That's true. Frozen was really well received when it first came out, but after how large it became, it had kind of a big backlash against it...
 
A movie that is on track to be the highest grossing movie of all time with outstanding word of mouth and very very strong reviews will never be regarded as "average".

It's all but assured claim at the #1 spot, the strong word of mouth, and great reviews are all factual elements of this film that are not a matter of opinion. Unless you think the public AND critics fooled themselves into loving an average movie.

Average movies dont become the highest grossing of all time and have great reviews.

It's absolutely an average movie. Cardboard characters, thematically empty, reliant on fan service to have any kind of substance.

And the humor wasn't even good.
 

Lothars

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Titanic is an amazing feat of filmmaking and the true deserver (?) of the 1st place crown. Now Avatar was the biggest fluke I've ever seen. TFA is good and has a symbolic meaning that makes it as deserving for a top place.
That's exactly how I feel, Avatar is the definition of average, I like Titanic and can see how it earned so much but Avatar I don't get it, I really dislike that movie.
 

mcfrank

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37.88 million according to deadline estimates. Another few records go down if that holds. Fastest to 300 mil (5 days vs 8 days for Jurassic) and all time best Tuesday beating opening day of Amazing Spider-Man.
 
I loved the movie mainly because in my opinion the characters action and humor are the best in the series, but I think i might need to stop reading the spoiler thread because I'll eventually become convinced its shit
 

guek

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Avatar and Titanic would like a word with you.
But neither of those were average. I mean, what could you compare them to at the time? What can you compare them to even today?

The stories they told were definitely average but that's only one part of a movie.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Well, Star Wars is no longer the best movie I've seen in the theater in the last 7 days.

Everybody go see The Big Short when is opens wide.

Looking forward to it
I wonder how well it will do in comparison to Wolf of Wall Street
 

witness

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I loved the movie mainly because in my opinion the characters action and humor are the best in the series, but I think i might need to stop reading the spoiler thread because I'll eventually become convinced its shit

Couldn't agree more. I'm really surprised by the amount of hate for it here.
 
Not to put the kibosh on the old folks critics circle slumber party you all had last night while I was asleep...

...But this thing is probably gonna make another 35 mil today, right?

Word of Mouth seems to be pretty strong. Stronger than Jurrasic World's was, at least.
 
Couldn't agree more. I'm really surprised by the amount of hate for it here.

There's not that much hate. Some people being hyperbolic as a means to make sure their post gets seen, and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

This will likely be at 380 mil domestic going into weekend 2, right?
 
some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it)

Bobby
Bobby why
They're already down
 

mcfrank

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There's not that much hate. Some people being hyperbolic as a means to make sure their post gets seen, and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

This will likely be at 380 mil domestic going into weekend 2, right?


Yeah it will be close to 400. Depends on how soft Christmas Eve is. Usually theaters close early. I think Avatar did 27ish on its Thursday Christmas Eve.
 
There's not that much hate. Some people being hyperbolic as a means to make sure their post gets seen, and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

This will likely be at 380 mil domestic going into weekend 2, right?

It's fine if the criticisms are about some of the rushed development and cut scenes because I would agree with that, but man some people are whining about "power levels" lmao
 

Nibel

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There's not that much hate. Some people being hyperbolic as a means to make sure their post gets seen, and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

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Dragon

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There's not that much hate. Some people being hyperbolic as a means to make sure their post gets seen, and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

This will likely be at 380 mil domestic going into weekend 2, right?

This is a very dumb lazy post. If we put it on a superhero movie scale I think it's probably around a Fantastic Four level. Any Fantastic Four movie will do.

In all seriousness, the amount of assumptions in the post is out there. I enjoy reading books, watching movies and playing games. Game stories are mostly shit, agreed there. But being a fan of video games doesn't mean that stops me from judging and enjoying a good story.

I'm not sure how you even came to the conclusion that the posters are from the gaming side. Based on the rest of your post, you pulled it from your butt.

Ouch. And also completely on point.

Based on...?

It's fine if the criticisms are about some of the rushed development and cut scenes because I would agree with that, but man some people are whining about "power levels" lmao

I didn't see Bobby's post point out any specific posters though.
 

Exodust

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and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

No lies detected.

Glad to see I can join the pile on.
 
Saw the midnight release last night of The Big Short and the theater was practically empty... It's probably the best movie I've see so far this year though so go check it out
 
I'm not sure how you even came to the conclusion that the posters are from the gaming side.

You quoted the entirety of my post, so I'm not sure how you misunderstood the thrust of it, especially since that means you at least looked at it twice before responding and hitting post. The post is referring to people's opinions that can be classified as "hate." There are many critical opinions that don't come off that way, so those all get set to the side. But for the ones that do, even then they're not so much hateful as they are hyperbolic for the sake of getting attention in a thread that's moving 5 million miles an hour - meaning the opinion is being expressed loudly and artlessly but there's some actual thought behind it if you actually stop to poke at it.

Or it's a bunch of people who obviously don't know what the fuck they're talking about trying to pretend like they do know what they're talking about in the hopes you won't stop and poke at it to show how clueless they are about the concepts they're mangling in an effort to appear sophisticated. It becomes easier to spot that mess when their main frames of reference for criticizing the storytelling... come from games, or conventions heavily deployed (or even created) in gaming.

Am I not supposed to think they then wandered over from gaming side when we're on a giant gaming forum?

Yeah it's pretty cool to be elitist about which forum you post on a video game forum website right? That doesn't seem ridiculous at all.

Why is my jab at people fronting at film criticism without any proficiency with the tools required setting you off? So far as I know you haven't done that. There's no reason for you to get heated by the notion such a thing could be (and is) happening, is there?

It'd be no different if there was a diet thread and some dude posted in it like he was a nutritionist while he was polishing off a bag of Sun Chips and the ass end of a Jimmy Johns 12" BBQ Pork Po'Boy.
 

Anth0ny

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There's not that much hate. Some people being hyperbolic as a means to make sure their post gets seen, and some people who don't really know how to communicate their thoughts on story well (usually these folks have wandered over from gaming side, so it shouldnt be surprising their familiarity with good storytelling doesnt come from experience with it), but not much hate that I see.

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Can't this whole conversation be taken to the review or spoiler threads?

I'm cool w/ someone quoting the whole of it and plopping it in that spoiler thread. Just poked my head back in there this morning and Gonzalez was actually trying to draw a straight line from Finn to Jar Jar.

Where did that Tuesday estimate come from? Was it the same "insider" guy that basically got the last OW predicting within like, a million? If so, that should make the 37-38 yesterday pretty solid, right?

I do wonder if there's going to be any effect on the weekend-to-weekend drop not only from the previews going away, but the theaters who will lose a bunch of screenings due to stopping at 10:30pm and not running those 9am/10am matinees.
 
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