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[JDSN]

My brother's asshole of a wife is gonna try this, I hope it fails. I find the practice scummy and extremely dangerous for both the mom and the kid.

 

[JustAnotherMike]

They invoked sky law and carried out a 21-18 on that baby.

 

[Jenov]

My brother's asshole of a wife is gonna try this, I hope it fails. I find the practice scummy and extremely dangerous for both the mom and the kid.

If your brother is a US citizen the baby can claim citizenship through him.

 

[timetokill]

There is definitely an issue with maternity tourism like this.

 

[stupei]

Think of all the highly desirable Alaskan jobs this baby might take.

 

[BriGuy]

Edit: weirdly delayed double post

 

[Dot-N-Run]

It does seem strange that she was sent back without the baby, but my guess is that it was left because there might be potential health risks if it is put on a plane so soon after being born.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Pretty damn fucked up they sent her back without her baby.

 

[Cipherr]

It's ours now.

Jesus, lol

 

[adj_noun]

We need to build a dome.

Well, we'd start the project, but it'd get canceled two years later after things just got silly.

 

[JDSN]

If your brother is a US citizen the baby can claim citizenship through him.

We arent.

 

[zeemumu]

If your brother is a US citizen the baby can claim citizenship through him.

I think he means that his brother's wife is gonna try to give birth in US airspace to get the baby citizenship.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

Taiwan is not some third world country or war zone. There are plenty of economic opportunity there. Please don't compare it to those seeking to get out of legitimately shitty situations in other countries.

Maybe the mother doesn't want the child Togo through military service?

 

[Tallshortman]

Maybe the mother doesn't want the child Togo through military service?

There are non-military services available to serve instead of direct military service. Also, they are phasing out conscription and turning their military into a professional force.

Besides that Taiwan hasn't been in a serious military conflict since the 60s and China won't attack short of a declaration of independence. That has never been a serious reason for tourist babies.

 

[Do Better]

Agree with this. What are thinking taking the baby.

You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Bath water = crazy, non-citizen mom

 

[Chococat]

Agree with this. What are thinking taking the baby.

We can't let a foreigner dictate what happens to an American citizen. Fear not, it has been swaddled in USA flag and is be nurtured by an eagle as we speak.

 

[stufte]

read "maternity terrorist" thought it was going to be a story about hijacking a plane with a baby.

Spoiler

kinda is what happened though.

 

[MrHoot]

Damn terries hiding other terries inside them to better take the plane. But we got this shit on lock

 

[Alex Stroud]

They're keeping the baby as collateral while she runs home to get her checkbook.

 

[nocturnalis]

She wanted an American child, so she has to follow the rules of America.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Regardless of whether she had ulterior motives for the flight, taking the baby away from her has to be some sort of human rights violation.

 

[Chococat]

Regardless of whether she had ulterior motives for the flight, taking the baby away from her has to be some sort of human rights violation.

I'm going to assume it is for the safety of the newborn. I was under the impression it unless they have medical permission, babies under 14 days are not allowed to fly.

 

[GhostWriter24]

Regardless of whether she had ulterior motives for the flight, taking the baby away from her has to be some sort of human rights violation.

Please tell me you're joking. The baby needs to receive adequate medical care first, and you think they're just going to give him/her back to a woman who actually has zero means to do so? That would be jeopardizing the life of the child...think about what you're saying.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

I'm going to assume it is for the safety of the newborn. I was under the impression it unless they have medical permission, babies under 14 days are not allowed to fly.

Pregnant mothers in the late stage aren't allowed on planes, right? An airport is kind of an unsafe environment for both the mother and unborn child...

After 14 days is the US gov. going to give it back to her? Does the newborn keep its citizenship? Terrible move separating them...

 

[antonz]

Please tell me you're joking. The baby needs to receive adequate medical care first, and you think they're just going to give him/her back to a woman who actually has zero means to do so? That would be jeopardizing the life of the child...think about what you're saying.

She is a maternity tourist not a refugee. She has plenty of means. The issue comes down to the fact the child is considered a citizen

 

[Jeevesmeister]

Well now we know what happened to Baby Hitler.

 

[Walpurgis]

she repeatedly asked the cabin crew, "Are we in U.S. air space?"

LMAO

I didn't know women could give birth on command. That lady has skills.

 

[Chococat]

Pregnant mothers in the late stage aren't allowed on planes, right? An airport is kind of an unsafe environment for both the mother and unborn child...

Exactly, she is the one that cause the problem for her and her child when she lied to her government and the US. Medically she should not have been on the plane in the first place.

After 14 days is the US gov. going to give it back to her? Does the newborn keep its citizenship? Terrible move separating them...

I'm assuming the US is holding the child until it is safe to travel. And that she was recalled by her Taiwan to answer for what she did.

 

[Izuna]

The real tragedy is that while we all understand that this was in her best interests for the baby, we find it better to talk about whether or not it is legal and not the fact that it sucks to live in other parts of the world.

 

[timetokill]

The real tragedy is that while we all understand that this was in her best interests for the baby, we find it better to talk about whether or not it is legal and not the fact that it sucks to live in other parts of the world.

But I didn't think Taiwan was all that bad, to be honest. I don't know much about Taiwan so maybe it is, but I didn't get the feeling it was like our GAFfer living in Venezuela.

Anyway, by this metric it seems like the obvious move would be for the US should rescind birthright citizenship so that it's not "in her best interests" to do things like this. It's dangerous to take a flight when you're that pregnant, so it's not even necessarily in "the best interests" of the baby.

 

[diablos991]

Something definitely needs to be done to combat maternity tourism.

Slap this lady with a hefty fine. She deliberately lied and cost a plane full of people time and money. I am of the opinion she should also be liable for damages if individual passengers would like to take her to court.

The greater issue here is how we are so willing to hand out citizenship. It's an emerging security threat for upcoming generations.

 

[The Llama]

The whole "birth tourism" thing just feels so wrong to me.

 

[DemiMatt]

Something definitely needs to be done to combat maternity tourism.

Slap this lady with a hefty fine. She deliberately lied and cost a plane full of people time and money. I am of the opinion she should also be liable for damages if individual passengers would like to take her to court.

The greater issue here is how we are so willing to hand out citizenship. It's an emerging security threat for upcoming generations.

100% Agree with you.

 

[Ahasverus]

You know you guys need to change that "totally american if here by chance" laws.

 

[spazchicken]

So you're saying what she did was not extremely selfish, inconsiderate, stupid, dangerous and the other passengers should be grateful to her? Screw them, their schedules, family, time, money and their jobs right?

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

So you're saying what she did was not extremely selfish, inconsiderate, stupid, dangerous and the other passengers should be grateful to her? Screw them, their schedules, family, time, money and their jobs right?

Pretty sure he's saying the exact opposite.

 

[spazchicken]

Pretty sure he's saying the exact opposite.

Roll eyes gif at a quote saying "she effected the travel of the other passengers".

Does that not say "who cares about the passengers"?

If I'm wrong I apologize but...I can't see how that's saying the opposite.

 

[antonz]

But I didn't think Taiwan was all that bad, to be honest. I don't know much about Taiwan so maybe it is, but I didn't get the feeling it was like our GAFfer living in Venezuela.

Anyway, by this metric it seems like the obvious move would be for the US should rescind birthright citizenship so that it's not "in her best interests" to do things like this. It's dangerous to take a flight when you're that pregnant, so it's not even necessarily in "the best interests" of the baby.

Seems the common sense thing would be to do what Italy does. The Airline is an extension of the country it is flagged for just like an Embassy may be in another country but its part of the country the embassy belongs too

 

[Reset]

Pretty sure he's saying the exact opposite.

No, I think he was rolling at the eyes that passengers were affected by this.

 

[vern]

Am I correct in assuming that even at twice the estimated fines it would pose no deterrent to the economic status of your typical birth tourist from that part of the world?

Yes you are right. If she was a legit birth tourist she paid a service much more than that already (housing, pre and post natal care, visa help, etc.)

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Roll eyes gif at a quote saying "she effected the travel of the other passengers".

Does that not say "who cares about the passengers"?

If I'm wrong I apologize but...I can't see how that's saying the opposite.

Oh, I thought it was roll eyes at the lady wasting everyone's time.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Anyway, by this metric it seems like the obvious move would be for the US should rescind birthright citizenship so that it's not "in her best interests" to do things like this. It's dangerous to take a flight when you're that pregnant, so it's not even necessarily in "the best interests" of the baby.

Something definitely needs to be done to combat maternity tourism.

The greater issue here is how we are so willing to hand out citizenship. It's an emerging security threat for upcoming generations.

The whole "birth tourism" thing just feels so wrong to me.

So, here's a question: why? Aside from this particular case, how is this hurting anyone?

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Guys, guys, why is the US taking the baby ?

 

[NewGame]

So was the baby born in some random no man's land? Is there even no man's land anymore?

 

[Atolm]

Taiwan is not some third world country or war zone. There are plenty of economic opportunity there. Please don't compare it to those seeking to get out of legitimately shitty situations in other countries.

I was thinking this. Taiwan is a fully developed country. Why would she do this?

 

[FyreWulff]

The greater issue here is how we are so willing to hand out citizenship. It's an emerging security threat for upcoming generations.

No, it's not. How the fuck would it be a security threat?

 

[spazchicken]

Guys, guys, why is the US taking the baby ?

Because the US accepts everything else that they make, so why not.

 

[diablos991]

No, it's not. How the fuck would it be a security threat?

Having US citizenship makes being in the espionage business against the US a hell of a lot easier.

 

[CharlieDigital]

Having US citizenship makes being in the espionage business against the US a hell of a lot easier.

Pack it up. I've heard it all.....

The real tragedy is that while we all understand that this was in her best interests for the baby, we find it better to talk about whether or not it is legal and not the fact that it sucks to live in other parts of the world.

The thing is that it really doesn't suck that much in Taiwan.

 

[diablos991]

Pack it up. I've heard it all.....



The thing is that it really doesn't suck that much in Taiwan.

So you are saying it is not easier for somebody to commit espionage against the USA if they are in the US on a work visa versus if they are a citizen and granted a security clearance?

think carefully about it for a second.

To the folks wondering why we kept the baby here; pretty sure putting a newborn on a flight isn't the safest idea. The child will be reunited with the mother as soon as it is safe to do so.