CarbonatedFalcon
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That's the T8 helmet. The shoulders are Dragon Soul though, right?
Can we really only get 5 tickets a day with the Darkmoon Faire? Seems ridiculously low considering the price of all the stuff.
From the games I believe so, you still have all the profession quests and the various one-offs you can find in the world. But I think they're limiting it so you can get maybe one item per month.
From the games I believe so, you still have all the profession quests and the various one-offs you can find in the world. But I think they're limiting it so you can get maybe one item per month.
Seems incredibly limiting. Should be able to earn as many as you want in the week. ;\
Yup, soon as I found out they actually thought I should do hundreds of dailies I just laughed off the DMF entirely
The shoulders are actually the Wrathful Glad shoulders from Lich King. The rest is just assorted pvp and tier from LK, as well. Cloak is from Hyjal trash.
Gentlemen, BEHOLD!
Any guesses as to how far people will get in progression next week?
I guess I expect 5-6/8 for the top 200ish guilds. Not sure if the top 2-3 will full clear or not.
Yeah, we exploited. We weighted risks of getting loot removed and 1/3 day ban vs what we have to lose.
First some history on exploits:
No loot was removed from Stars' early heroic start on Firelands nor Envy's (and probably some other guilds') faction changes for more lockouts during Firelands normal week.
Blizzard's incredible passiveness when it comes to punishing bug exploiters. No one was punished for clear exploit strats on Magmaw and Atramedes heroics. No one even noticed our small exploits on Ascendant Council and Sinestra. Nothing even said about mass res bug that made corpse runs atleast 50% faster. Double aspects, tanks not getting hit by Halfus' drakes, Cho'galls adds not aggroing, motw scroll resists stacking with everything and a dozen other bugs I'm forgetting just in the first tier alone. If you want to go further back you might remember 15 extra soulstones and permastunned Anub adds, no punishments.
This stuff happens all the time. Maybe not on a scale like LFR but our guild is probably one of the biggest exploiters this game has ever had. And what has Blizzard done? Absolutely nothing.
So on Thursday we had seen this LFR stuff was still going on for the 3rd day. Every single notable guild, except maybe vodka, was doing it before us (and no, it's not an excuse, just stating the situation). So we thought about it and decided to just go for it. Because what could Blizzard do?
Their solutions:
They remove all LFR gear from exploiters - Same for every top guild, all guilds will be equal
They ban us for a few days - Same for every top guild, all guilds will be equal
They perma ban exploiters - Everyone would get banned. Even if we didn't exploit, there would be no one to play against -> no reason to even play the game. Banned or competition banned -> no point in playing in my opinion. Most of our guild only plays this game because they want to be the best on the 1 or 2 bosses that are hard on each raid instance. If most of the top 10 gets banned there will hardly be any competition left so we might as well quit.
But what if, by some chance, they do nothing like so many times before. We would be in a massive disadvantage. Would that be worth the risk? We decided no.
This is why we did what we did.
Yup, soon as I found out they actually thought I should do hundreds of dailies I just laughed off the DMF entirely
I think the top guilds will probably be 5-6 H minimum, with the 2 Heroic Deathwing fights being the barrier.
Re: Exploiting. I honestly don 't think Blizzard gives a real care about situations where the top guilds in the world are doing whatever they can (in some cases breaking the rules) to get ahead. These guys will do whatever it takes to be first and it's just not realistic to punish them for exploiting as much as it is to tune encounters around them (except for maybe 1 encounter a patch cycle).
We went from dungeons to corridors to generic rooms connected together by teleporters. EVOLUTION.
The shoulders are actually the Wrathful Glad shoulders from Lich King. The rest is just assorted pvp and tier from LK, as well. Cloak is from Hyjal trash.
Well, I'm off to Mal'Ganis.
I don't care if they exploit, but I kind of have to laugh at the theory that they're too important to ban.
Horde or Alliance(lol)?
lolololololoHorde or Alliance(lol)?
Talk about entitlement. Deal with the one week you have to do something you don't like.I think all these week one shenanigans could have easily been avoided by allowing heroic mode to be accessed right from the start. LFR and normal mode difficulties clearly are not designed with "top tier" guilds in mind and as a result these guilds will do anything they can to prepare themselves for the following week because it is just too easy to execute. The truth is it is getting out of hand, having to run LFR or split raids just so you have every gear advantage you can get. I can see how other guilds would feel pressured into abusing the LFR system as our guild was faced with the very decision simply because we would not want to fall behind. How is that fun? I guess what I am wondering is, what happened to the "do what you want, when you want" mentality that was mentioned at Blizzcon. I guess all the forum trolls would be out a job if things actually made sense.
All of the high end guilds that exploited LFR got bans, which means all of them. Oh noes, 8 days without WoW!
Although I did read this cute comment from one of the US guilds:
Talk about entitlement. Deal with the one week you have to do something you don't like.
I guess that means we'll be seeing a couple of new names on the scoreboard. Some of these guys are gonna go into cardiac arrest without their fix. (I kid, I kid)
I levelled entirely with UH. It's really really boring to play.You know, I'm not entirely certain why people don't play Unholy DK more. Frost is a lot more random than Unholy, which is extremely predictable.
I suppose having two weapons is easier than one, although more annoying to acquire.
I levelled entirely with UH. It's really really boring to play.
why do we even have trash any more
like who are they kidding
if youre not gonna make us work, why even waste a little bit of our time on stuff like this
just have a pinata and be done with it tbh
You know, I'm not entirely certain why people don't play Unholy DK more. Frost is a lot more random than Unholy, which is extremely predictable.
I suppose having two weapons is easier than one, although more annoying to acquire.
LFR loot system doesn't work well at all when you group with 25 random people each time. Guess I could try to find a guild that runs it on Sunday or Monday while mine is in hiatus.
Frost was beast in 4.2 Why didn't you do that?It's part of what caused me to quit in 4.2, haha, I was already burnt out and trying to adjust to it was really offputting to me. I disliked the pet management and ramp up. Not sure if it's changed but I just really enjoy dual wield frost.
My pet died so damn much on 4.2 patch day, too, it'd cut across lava, get stomped to bits by every form of AoE, which confused me as I thought permanent pets had like -90% reduction or some such.
Frost was beast in 4.2 Why didn't you do that?
I don't think the margin is as high as it was in 4.0 or 4.2. Pretty sure Unholy was dead in 4.0.Frost is still the top DPS spec, actually.
Frost was beast in 4.2 Why didn't you do that?
I don't think the margin is as high as it was in 4.0 or 4.2. Pretty sure Unholy was dead in 4.0.
Well, the 365 craftables were quite good an inexpensive, especially if you had an alch alt. Even the troll 1handers did high DPS in raids. I used to hate frost in WOTLK. Switched to it in 4.0, loved it, and still doing it.Unholy was parsing a lot higher than 2H Frost, which was my only option since I didn't play to ever Dual Wield and had no 1Hs (passed like Heroic Lava Spines to our Warriors for SMF since they actually liked it). I only played like a week of 4.2 though, I always burn out around the first summer in an expansion.
I've taken to DW Frost now though, and I've finally hit that point where I just don't give a shit about theory craft and parsing anymore, I'm a good player so especially in the kind of guilds I join I always pull top end numbers regardless.
I want to try my Enhancement Shaman out and see what it's AoE is like now since I bitched so relentlessly about how clunky it was before, but I really feel like I've seen enough of those 5 mans already haha.
Well, the 365 craftables were quite good an inexpensive, especially if you had an alch alt. I used to hate frost in WOTLK. Switched to it in 4.0, loved it, and still doing it.
Any guesses as to how far people will get in progression next week?
I guess I expect 5-6/8 for the top 200ish guilds. Not sure if the top 2-3 will full clear or not.