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[markot]

Blood DKs are pretty impossible to kill in pvp >.<

I kinda wish blizz did seperate pvp and pve more, not so you had to choose one or the other so much, but more that balance changes could be restricted to pve, or pvp >.<

Like if you are in dungeons, certain stats and what nots were given to you, but outside of that you were balanced for pvp.... maybe....

They are two completely different worlds really.

 

[Angry Grimace]

You are waay out of date. For single target dps, subtlety is the best, combat 2nd, assassination 3rd. For cleave fights, combat owns all specs in the game. Assassination is only good for aoe fights. Take a look at worldoflogs or raidbots for a general idea.

Assassination and Combat are close enough that it's not a big deal what you choose to play. Nobody really plays subtlety in PvE because the rotation has too many things to watch to be worth the marginal gain in DPS.

 

[markot]

Slice and dice is pretty annoying given how much rogue dps comes from auto attacks >.<

 

[Ryaaan14]

Sub does huge single target dmg, its awesome ^_^

Firstly you get +combo points from other peoples crits, which is awesome. Secondly you keep recuperate up with its +energy thingy. Secondly2 you keep em bleeding.

I only recently hit 85 with my rogue, its fun. Still so damn hard to take down heals though >.<; I can mess em up so they cant heal others for abit, but other then that my dps isnt high enough.... yet....

I like that its viable in pve, even lowly 5 mans. Mainly because I think combat is boring and Ass is too kinda, although less boring then combat. Sub is the only one that feels roguey!

Yeah I know Sub is amazing for those reasons in PvP, but like I said I always just assumed Mut spams would negate Honor Amongst Thieves in a single target scenario in PvE. I'll do some target dummy practice tonight using my Sub spec and PvE poisons (never tried that before). If it works out I'll just do my Dragon Soul runs tonight using Sub.

Fun night ahead if my DPS kicks ass! Thanks for the tips too.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Yeah I know Sub is amazing for those reasons in PvP, but like I said I always just assumed Mut spams would negate Honor Amongst Thieves in a single target scenario in PvE. I'll do some target dummy practice tonight using my Sub spec and PvE poisons (never tried that before). If it works out I'll just do my Dragon Soul runs tonight using Sub.

Fun night ahead if my DPS kicks ass! Thanks for the tips too.

The problem with Subtlety is that it's complex enough to require tunnel vision.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Ugh.

Wanted to play WoW today, but maintenance + extended maintenance and I started up Skyrim (after playing a bit of Dark Souls during the regular downtime).

Just got out of something like a 4+ hour Skyrim wormhole.

 

[Yoshichan]

Dragon Soul Heroic Difficulty Unlocked - US First Kills

Blood Legion got the US first kill of Morchok, Warlord Zon'ozz, Yor'sahj the Unsleeping, and Hagara the Stormbinder.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

 

[Angry Grimace]

Dragon Soul Heroic Difficulty Unlocked - US First Kills

Blood Legion got the US first kill of Morchok, Warlord Zon'ozz, Yor'sahj the Unsleeping, and Hagara the Stormbinder.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

Not to be super dismissive, but I never find the achievements for these early guys to be all that impressive given that they've already done all the wiping on the PTR. I'm not entirely sure I see how there's any real race for those guys since almost all of those guilds have already downed that boss on heroic already; it's not like there's a functional difference between the PTR and the live realms, really.

I suppose that fact is part of why they make the final encounter buttrapingly hard.

 

[markot]

Cant believe blizz is defending how grindy and bad the new faire is >_<;

Goddamn, they really seem out of touch.

 

[G-Fex]

guys I feel sorta burnt out on Wow for some reason,don't want to seem to play any of my characters .

I gotta try leveling anyways.

 

[markot]

Also am I crazy, or is the Isle of Quelwhatever still the best 'hub' area or whatever.

The grind wasnt that long, the quests were mostly fun, there was lots of fun pvp... Now they try and do the same, but ruin them with hugeeee grinds, and making them dull...

I honestly dont get it, whoever is in charge of this stuff... shouldnt be.

 

[wonderdung]

The new heroics are fun, it's nice to work on something challenging again (that's not Rag). I expected the first boss to be easier than it was, but looking at other guilds I'm pretty happy with our 1 kill so far.

 

[Number45]

Are there ANY quests in Molten Front that aren't dailies? I've completed Elemental Bonds: The Vow and The Sanctuary Must Not Fall and other than a couple of quests where I have to hand in 125/150 marks I have nothing else. I feel like there should be more of those Hyjal/Firelands quests that I'm missing.

EDIT: Finally found it. I need to complete either The Shadow Wardens or Druids Of The Talon to progress.

 

[Subliminal]

Also am I crazy, or is the Isle of Quelwhatever still the best 'hub' area or whatever.

The grind wasnt that long, the quests were mostly fun, there was lots of fun pvp... Now they try and do the same, but ruin them with hugeeee grinds, and making them dull...

I honestly dont get it, whoever is in charge of this stuff... shouldnt be.

QD is not as good as Molten Front; Less variety, duller quests, longer grind

 

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35$ for everything

 

[Bisnic]

QD is not as good as Molten Front; Less variety, duller quests, longer grind

Rose-tinted glasses are very powerful when it comes to vanilla and BC.

 

[FrontalMonk]

QD was the only daily hub where I ground out exalted rep, and it's the only one I ever will.

 

[Garryk]

QD is the best. It is the smallest of the daily hubs and once you hit exalted with SSO there is no point in staying. Unlike the Tournament where I will spend another year grinding out mounts and pets.

 

[FLEABttn]

Dunemaul came today. Each blade has 4 gigs of RAM. Having trouble identifying other parts.

http://i.imgur.com/OY8Ro.jpg

 

[Cipherr]

Also am I crazy, or is the Isle of Quelwhatever still the best 'hub' area or whatever.

The grind wasnt that long, the quests were mostly fun, there was lots of fun pvp... Now they try and do the same, but ruin them with hugeeee grinds, and making them dull...

I honestly dont get it, whoever is in charge of this stuff... shouldnt be.

And the PvP. And visually, it was gorgeous. And its rewards, they were fantastic. Yeah, Isle of Quel Danas or whatever was niiiiice, extremely well done.

 

[Entropia]

Dunemaul came today. Each blade has 4 gigs of RAM. Having trouble identifying other parts.

http://i.imgur.com/OY8Ro.jpg

Oh wow, nice! How much did that cost ya?? If you don't mind me asking.

Can you take a pic of it against/by something? I'm curious how big that really is.

 

[FLEABttn]

Oh wow, nice! How much did that cost ya?? If you don't mind me asking.

Can you take a pic of it against/by something? I'm curious how big that really is.

$270.50 shipped.

Here's a shot to help establish size.

http://i.imgur.com/7ujeq.jpg

 

[Entropia]

$270.50 shipped.

Here's a shot to help establish size.

http://i.imgur.com/7ujeq.jpg

Wow, that's a pretty decent price for that! That's awesome

 

[Alex]

Oop double post.

 

[markot]

Thats how big 1 server is >_<? THATS TINY!

 

[Alex]

Pretty cringe worthy ending, a few bits of Engrish away from a low budget NES credit roll. Also, I really wish they'd stop throwing up the word "champions" to try to justify any player presence, it's almost like we're a nuisance to the writer. :lol Oh well, at least I saw it through to the end, but actually we already saw all of the assets during WOTLK.

I really liked the opening of Cataclysm but it progressed and ended with some heavy disdain from me. Hopefully Pandaria can correct some of the bad. 4.3 in general really felt like they just wanted to declare it over and move on.

 

[FLEABttn]

Thats how big 1 server is >_<? THATS TINY!

Technically, 1 game server is 4 of these blade servers.

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

Technically, 1 game server is 4 of these blade servers.

No wonder they're laggy as shit. 16 gigs of memory for a whole server?

 

[FLEABttn]

No wonder they're laggy as shit. 16 gigs of memory for a whole server?

Yep. This has DDR PC2100 ECC RAM from Samsung in it.

I looked around more at this thing and it's an HP BL20p G2 server. It's a dual Xenon processor, each being somewhere between 2.8 and 3.2 GHz with some cache size of 512 KB to 2 MB.

 

[vilmer_]

Wow FLEAB.... That is awesome!!

 

[Yoshichan]

FLEABttn WOW!!!!!

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Dinged 80 on my druid today. Made much less painful with the XP reduction and the quests placed in Northrend dungeons.

Only took about 3 dungeons to go from 78 to 80. This was fully rested though. Pretty good time still. A little over/under 5 days /played total from 1 to 80. This is with two heirlooms a good portion of the way, but still not nearly as quick as it could be. Certainly much quicker than it was.

Getting to Cata content is so good after the drag that's the late Wrath stuff.

 

[Ryaaan14]

Lucky day in LFR Fall of Deathwing. Got the 390 boots off DW's back, then the dagger dropped from DW but I lost the roll to a Shaman.

After the 3 Rogues screamed at the Shaman he had us all roll and I won it.

Now we'll see what 10m Normal has in store later.

 

[Yoshichan]

3/5!

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Blegh. Got DCed during one of the new heroics. Did manage to pick up a pair of tanking gloves off the first boss though.

Sort of had bad luck today with games. Skyrim crashed earlier, and this DC. Instance was neat, though perhaps I should read up before throwing myself in again. Dungeon Journal was broken for some reason and wasn't showing me abilities though.

 

[Cipherr]

Since I didnt play Cata after buying it, Im reacting now and doing the instances in DF for the first time. The community in this game has melted down even further than it was when I left. Noone will (not even the person who selects the dungeon guide role) will explain any of the fights before they start, so we end up with 3/5 of the group dying, when we didnt know we needed to collapse for a special ability. DBM is nice, but it doesnt tell you everything.

After playing the TOR beta, I had once again gotten used to people actually talking, had forgotten how things are in such an old MMO. This must be a trainwreck for people completely new to the game. At least Ive played before, so I can pick up on stuff fast, but this shit would alienate the average newbie.

Terrible.

 

[Yoshichan]

After playing the TOR beta, I had once again gotten used to people actually talking, had forgotten how things are in such an old MMO. This must be a trainwreck for people completely new to the game. At least Ive played before, so I can pick up on stuff fast, but this shit would alienate the average newbie.

Terrible.

This is the case with almost every MMORPG that survives the 5 year-period.

 

[Alex]

That's certainly true to an extent but with WoW the design makes it considerably worse than anything else of age I've participated in (LOTRO comes to mind as a good example). There's really no point in any actual socialization or community aspects in WoW unless you're talking guild raids.

Leveling is solo encouraged, pre-raid content is harder to fail at than succeed and there's just no need to say a word to anyone for any reason, menus do all the talking for you since there's no game world to participate in. I don't see TOR avoiding most of this, though. Not with it's budget and license, at least to some extent.

The funny thing is that games like Diablo III will likely wind up being more significant multiplayer experiences in many ways. It's getting harder and harder to justify the monthly fee for this type of MMO anymore, not with the lack of the open world and the dearth of updates.

 

[Yoshichan]

Ah, just reached 2005 haste with my resto with no trouble... love that breakpoint!

 

[Angry Grimace]

Since I didnt play Cata after buying it, Im reacting now and doing the instances in DF for the first time. The community in this game has melted down even further than it was when I left. Noone will (not even the person who selects the dungeon guide role) will explain any of the fights before they start, so we end up with 3/5 of the group dying, when we didnt know we needed to collapse for a special ability. DBM is nice, but it doesnt tell you everything.

After playing the TOR beta, I had once again gotten used to people actually talking, had forgotten how things are in such an old MMO. This must be a trainwreck for people completely new to the game. At least Ive played before, so I can pick up on stuff fast, but this shit would alienate the average newbie.

Terrible.

I just went through Madness of Deathwing on LFR (i.e. 25 person pug) without having ever done it, explained it anyways using a strategy I read online, and got him on the third try. People will be grateful to you if you do it yourself, it's just that everyone is too shy to speak up to 25 people they don't know.

The 5 man bosses have only 1 or 2 abilities of note, so it's not like it's a super burden to just ask.

Edit: Of course, I went ahead and was nice and helpful the new 5 man and the tank immediately started loot ninjaing my gear =/

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Agility and Intellect red rare gems are going for 275+ gold a pop. Downside is that Elementium Ore prices have doubled.

 

[Angry Grimace]

The reactions to Heroic mode Dragon Soul are kind of amusing following the "this is too easy" complaints.

A lot of "how is it even possible that Blood Legion downed Yor'sahj at all" comments.

 

[Yoshichan]

My head hurts when I think about Mists of Pandaria... what a dumb expansion-pack it'll be. Worst one probably.

 

[markot]

My head hurts when I think about Mists of Pandaria... what a dumb expansion-pack it'll be. Worst one probably.

Shadow priests have 1 heal.

Its gonna be great. Getting rid of 'cookie cutter' by doing the cookie cutting for us Blizz. Its genius! Master Stroke! 10/10! If you were bankers youd get a 50billion dollar bail out and bonuses for your terriffic dynamism!

Its only hope is how active the San Andreas fault line is between now and launch really >.<; (Ahh, thats not wishing harm on anyone!, just a joke!)

 

[Angry Grimace]

Shadow priests have 1 heal.

Its gonna be great. Getting rid of 'cookie cutter' by doing the cookie cutting for us Blizz. Its genius! Master Stroke! 10/10! If you were bankers youd get a 50billion dollar bail out and bonuses for your terriffic dynamism!

Its only hope is how active the San Andreas fault line is between now and launch really >.<; (Ahh, thats not wishing harm on anyone!, just a joke!)

One thing Blizzard is good at is making money. I imagine they're more profitable now than they've ever been given the fact they put out SCII right when WoW starting dropping subs, and they'll put out Diablo III when the subs dip lower in the doldrums of Dragon Soul.

 

[markot]

Tell me about it! I bought SC2 and hate it, and bought a yearly sub and already want to get out of it >_<;

But I kinda want them to make a good game, more than alot of money....

 

[Einchy]

Got Deathwing to 6 percent and we wiped. Gah, that was so painful.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Tell me about it! I bought SC2 and hate it, and bought a yearly sub and already want to get out of it >_<;

But I kinda want them to make a good game, more than alot of money....

Meh, I'll never find it to be that big of a deal; I'm subbed for months at a time and always get sad when I'm not in the beta test.

 

[Rokal]

My head hurts when I think about Mists of Pandaria... what a dumb expansion-pack it'll be. Worst one probably.

I'm looking forward to Pandas/Monks and an expansion devoted to end game but yeah... Wrath style 5-mans, easy normal raids, and the new talent trees really don't have me especially optimistic about what that end-game will actually be.

 

[ch0mp]

Got Deathwing to 6 percent and we wiped. Gah, that was so painful.

Yeah, really gotta burn him down quickly. We just tank and ignore the second set of adds and hit DW.