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SiegfriedFM
Member
The Thrall questline was great from a storytelling perspective, and since everyone and their dog was doing it I'm glad it wasn't some complex item drop thing or "farm 30 of these guys". But yeah, they would have had some more variety than survive X minutes killing simple mobs.
Mister Zimbu
Member
Any suggested order for the first four bosses in Firelands?
We tried the giant boss on 10 man for two hours (the one with the feet) and he seemed ridiculously difficult. We just couldn't find the right balance for who to keep on the feet versus who was dedicated to the adds.
After trash repopped we went to the spider boss, who seemed to be a bit more manageable.
We tried the giant boss on 10 man for two hours (the one with the feet) and he seemed ridiculously difficult. We just couldn't find the right balance for who to keep on the feet versus who was dedicated to the adds.
After trash repopped we went to the spider boss, who seemed to be a bit more manageable.
Trickster
Member
zugzug said:
Not sure what you're trying to say.
The Thrall questline is boring, simple as that, unless you like doing the exact same thing 4 times over.
Having players wait 7 months for any new content worth a damn is bad enough on it's own, then making them wait 3 days after the content goes live before being able to access it is a freaking slap in the face.
ShadyMilkman
Banned
The best part of the Thrall quest line was after finishing it then going back with some friends and killing every alliance player as soon as they ported in, thus sparking a huge PvP battle.
wonderdung
Member
Mister Zimbu said:
Spider boss seems like a minor DPS check and that's the only thing remotely challenging about it. Shannax had some trick to dropping the stacks on the tanks that it took us four pulls and almost one vent rage quit to figure out. Neither is particularly difficult if you know what you're doing going into the fight.
We had the hardest time with the volcano boss but I still think we'll get it in <10 pulls. I think the only adjustment we need is to start calling for raidwide cooldowns on the last few stomps.
Anyway Shannax and spider both seemed significantly easier than the volcano guy.
Trickster said:
I actually think it's great that you have to put some groundwork in to open the gate to the Firelands for new content. This patch is going to be out for likely 6 months so what is the rush to rip through the new daily hub right away? They are trying to create a sense of progression for people instead of simply creating a quest hub of the same old shit. Besides, by doing the 3 days of dailies, you are still improving your rep for the rewards.
Trickster
Member
PatzCU said:
And by "groundwork" you mean spend 10 minutes a day doing 3 standard "kill x creatures" and "loot x items" quests, right? I just feel that it's an unnecesery block towards accessing the majority of the non raid content of the patch.
It's not like you're gonna "rip" through the content even when you get to the firelands however. There's a cap of 25 quests a day, and they've made over 60 quests for players, and I'm sure some will be locked until you reach certain rep levels, so it's gonna be a progression based experience either way, no need to try and fluff the length of that experience by having players wait an extra 3 days after finally getting the patch with the sorely needed content.
Alex
Member
Quests in WoW are sort of a one time deal. They're designed kind of like an adventure game. It's fun to absorb the story or humor, see any of the scripting and neat mechanics and explore the area with them.
Daily quests kind of throw that into a wringer, it's just busywork. They're digital errands, and not fun ones that have you dungeon combing, collecting and crafting, exploring or fighting fun bosses. I love some good ol' grinding and even I won't touch these things.
Questing in general really needs a heroic and/or group toggle or something. Getting it away from the super casual fodder targeted at solo people in greens who have two skills and 35 mounts on their action bars (and still have no possibility of failing a quest) would be nice.
Daily quests kind of throw that into a wringer, it's just busywork. They're digital errands, and not fun ones that have you dungeon combing, collecting and crafting, exploring or fighting fun bosses. I love some good ol' grinding and even I won't touch these things.
Questing in general really needs a heroic and/or group toggle or something. Getting it away from the super casual fodder targeted at solo people in greens who have two skills and 35 mounts on their action bars (and still have no possibility of failing a quest) would be nice.
Alex said:
I don't necessarily mind daily quests, just not in the way they are implemented for the first 'gate' in the Firelands hub.
I think the attempt here was to make it more like a "world event" where the players unlocked an epic storyline via daily quests ala Isle of Quel'danis. The problem is the introductory quests are, for lack of a batter word, stupid. You do quests to collect "marks" that allow the caravan you are on to march onto the Firelands. Supposedly these marks represent supply tokens, which is where you have to suspend your belief.
On the other hand, the Isle had you (mostly) fighting Demons in order to take back Island locations. Even if the quests ended up with more or less the same objective (kill monsters, collect reward) it still ended up making more sense than how they implemented it in the Firelands.
I kind of wish they would do an AQ style server wide collect-a-thon again. Those were a heck of a lot of fun and I feel as though they really build some community. It would be way cool if they had something like "10000 5 mans with only memebers of your own server" or something like that as an objective to unlock a server wide reward. I guess that would punish low-pop servers though, so it'll probably never happen.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Wow I never realized how insanely detailed the beginners guide is. I only remembered the initial instruction booklet (which was nice too), but this is just massive. Did this used to be an old strategy guide?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
So where are most people from GAF playing on at the moment?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
I just recall that I was last playing on <checks Battle.net Account> Area 52 as last time.
ShadyMilkman
Banned
Gorgonnash for me
Yeah, I read that was kind of an issue with PvE servers.
Bisnic said:
Yeah, I read that was kind of an issue with PvE servers.
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
I remember in AC (Asheron's Call) where they had a huge event that the server had to complete to open up the new content. It involved grouping up to kill a certain boss in a certain place etc etc
For some reason, my server decided that we were NOT going to do it. Instead we formed a huge group of people assigned to make sure the boss did NOT die...we could kill other players, protect and heal the NPC etc.
This went on for weeks and eventually the devs had to design a special even to force us to fail. Overwhelmed us with a massive raid of stuff...was so awesome and unique.
My point was...the CHOICE made it awesome.
WoW needs diverging paths
For some reason, my server decided that we were NOT going to do it. Instead we formed a huge group of people assigned to make sure the boss did NOT die...we could kill other players, protect and heal the NPC etc.
This went on for weeks and eventually the devs had to design a special even to force us to fail. Overwhelmed us with a massive raid of stuff...was so awesome and unique.
My point was...the CHOICE made it awesome.
WoW needs diverging paths
Downloading the starter edition. Haven't played since Jan. '09 when I sold my account, was desperate for money. Excited to see the new starting zones and quests. Will be playing a Pally first since that was my old main. At least with the way its setup I can't get super invested and deep into the game so that it takes over what little free time I have.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Alex said:
Fortexorcist is awesome because you can customize it so much and it's easy to use once you spend a little time tinkering with the options.
ShadyMilkman
Banned
FLEABttn said:
Yeah, it can be pretty bad. I dig it though
ShadyMilkman
Banned
FLEABttn said:
Horde. Raid progression was pretty split until recently. Horde has pulled away in that regard now, though.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Ravenholdt, US (alliance)
Had fun starting the new quest line; I actually feel excited about the game. Also got my gear score up to 355 pretty quickly today thanks to that new quest cape
Guild started Firelands yesterday and continued tonight. I'll have to pug until we get a second group going
Had fun starting the new quest line; I actually feel excited about the game. Also got my gear score up to 355 pretty quickly today thanks to that new quest cape
Guild started Firelands yesterday and continued tonight. I'll have to pug until we get a second group going
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
Not sure what you mean by this. I just hit honored a few minutes ago and was a half bar in when I logged.CcrooK said:It seems with farming rep, you can only get to 1 point before hitting Honored in FL. Though the drop rate of purples is pretty high.
Or will rep stop at some point within honored?
ch0mp said:
I think I better stop procrastinating and get my ass in there before they nerf the droprate. skipping the latter half of Hyjal bit me in the ass and I spent a good portion of time yesterday catching up. I have access to the dailies now so I'm good to go for some trash runs.
Abused the 3 o'clock power hour the first night to get into the molten front a day early, having now explored that place thoroughly, done achieves, etc. Yeah the first 'section' of the quest line is balls, but the area itself is pretty dang cool, the achievements are fun, the quests can be neat, there's like floating mario platformer rocks that explode for you to jump accross, etc. It just takes too long to unlock more thna a few dailies (150 marks after the first 20, and after two power hour sessions I only have 43).
Firelands was fun, people whined about the trash enough that it got doubled in respawn, so meh. I liked the trash tbh, farming it for rep/drops is boring as dirt, but the pulls are interesting, extremely varied, and you can skip a huge majority of it.
Rep stops at 1 shy of honored for whoever asks, but giants and other 'special' trash (there's a lot that qualifies as that, but not at the zone in mostly) continues past. Sitting at about 3700 into honored now.
Firelands was fun, people whined about the trash enough that it got doubled in respawn, so meh. I liked the trash tbh, farming it for rep/drops is boring as dirt, but the pulls are interesting, extremely varied, and you can skip a huge majority of it.
Rep stops at 1 shy of honored for whoever asks, but giants and other 'special' trash (there's a lot that qualifies as that, but not at the zone in mostly) continues past. Sitting at about 3700 into honored now.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Those bastards. Sent me a free 7 days on my primary account.
Must...resist...
The funny thing is that they addressed the email to my warrior alt's name (Rhizome). He's 85, but I have no idea why that character was named - maybe the last character I logged out with?
Must...resist...
The funny thing is that they addressed the email to my warrior alt's name (Rhizome). He's 85, but I have no idea why that character was named - maybe the last character I logged out with?