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strafer, at the end of all your Evangeline Lilly avatars, I hope the final
Well, he does do some sketchy stuff in the legendary ring quests. Cordana wasn't too happy.
That would have been majorly disappointing, I think we've killed enough of them in 5 mans and quests. I'm hoping Ner'zhul is still alive, because defeating him in a 5 man dungeon has been the biggest disappointment so far. Back when WoD was announced I would have pegged him for being the second biggest threat after Gul'dan.
This cutscene is so bizarre without context. Why Kilrogg? I guess everyone else remotely of consequence is dead, so now he just sort of feels like leftovers being served as the main course. Up until now Kilrogg hasn't had any presence in this expansion. It feels more and more like Tanaan Jungle could have been an essential piece for expanding on each of the orc leaders and establishing the Iron Horde structurally. As things are now we kind of just got awkward glances into the Iron Horde that make them out to be bumbling, aimless, and easily manipulated.
Kil'rogg already knows how he is going to die, he had a vision when he did the ceremony and gouged his eye out.
His vision in the AU probably involves him being a fel orc.
But yeah, it feels like there was a lot of content cut out in this expansion. Pretty sure Tanaan was supposed to be in at launch and Farahlon was supposed to show up in the later patches. Maybe they weren't able to go and update everything in the launch zones when they made the decision to pull Tanaan.
Gentleman Jack
Member
His loyalties haven't deviated from canon in this alternate timeline. I'm not super shocked, but I don't expect we're done with the 'twists' of this expansion, either.
Method's Blackhand video is out. Honestly, not really as cool of a fight as some of the previous end tier bosses. I am sure it is tuned very tightly, but Imperator looked like a more impressive fight than this one.
edit: I take it back somewhat, watching the fight again it is kind of cool. Just not as flashy as previous fights.
edit: I take it back somewhat, watching the fight again it is kind of cool. Just not as flashy as previous fights.
So that new cinematic got me and a friend talking about the fact that
Could be interesting if that's the route they go.
Kilrogg looks different than the other orcs that have drank the blood. He didn't turn green like he was "supposed" to. Which brought up the fact that Mannoroth is already dead in this timeline, so who the hell's blood are they drinking? Kil'Jadens?
Could be interesting if that's the route they go.
Gentleman Jack
Member
He looks more like a
sha-touched orc
Mythic Blackhand looks like an extremely hard numbers check with no surprises about the execution. No mystery why only 3 guilds have downed it. e: lol as I say that 3 more have killed it.
No one should give two shits about China guilds since the gear they get is at least 6 ilvls higher by default, and half a tier is prety huge in terms if advantage over the competition.
Both CN guilds have an ilvl average of 693 compared to 686 and 687 for Paragon and Method
Gentleman Jack
Member
I feel this sells the level of execution required short, and broadly dismissing Chinese guilds ignores the quality of players who have been active in the scene since at least Wrath.
They don't naturally get higher level gear anymore, but some of those players xfered realms to get more BMAH gear since xfers are dirt cheap on Asian realms
Looking at the ilvl of the players actually in the kill: Style has an avg ilvl of 691.49, Stars has an avg of 691.95 and exorsus has an avg of 691.24. Should we ignore exorsus' kill too?
edit: actually, looking at wowprogress, method is probably the only guild whose raid ilvl was lower than 690 at time of kill.
this is incorrect for many reasons like some other people have said but you should not use wowprogress to judge item levels of a kill, the item level it has on the guild page is almost always out of date, and the item level it has on individual kills is just based off of what people logged off in after the kill which is normally slightly higher since some people would have gotten upgrades, for instance in the case of methods first kill they have people at 620 and 652 item level since that is what they logged off in when the kill was updated
Always live up when you look like a fool, I'm doing it.
But still, they have a weird 6 ilvl advantage for their mythic raiding teams (both CN guilds) over all 4 Blackhand killing guilds (all between 686.1 and 686.8). Also if as you say they abused realm xfers to buy stuff on the bmah, then this rule should apply :
In conclusion, it takes tremendous skill to kill Blackhand right now, it's just that having an average ilvl so much higher gives you a bigger margin for error.
Like Peach said it's best to disregard the ilevel listed for kills on WoW progress for individual guilds. Averages over a lot of kills are probably OK, but Method's players logged out with Thunderfury, etc so it will skew ilevel. Guarantee you Sco was not 651 ilevel for the kill 
But it is very true that the more recent kills have a higher ilevel than Method's first kill. After all it was 2 or 3 lockouts more gear.
The BMAH xferring thing was big during Highmaul with Style War (broke up and reformed as something else) but they might have not done it for BRF. I was mentioning that as a possible way for their ilevel to be higher but I have no idea if they have continued doing it
But it is very true that the more recent kills have a higher ilevel than Method's first kill. After all it was 2 or 3 lockouts more gear.
The BMAH xferring thing was big during Highmaul with Style War (broke up and reformed as something else) but they might have not done it for BRF. I was mentioning that as a possible way for their ilevel to be higher but I have no idea if they have continued doing it
unknownstranger
Member
Three kills in HBRF...four items. Five item levels higher now. 666 --> 671
Nice. I got 2 pieces of tier this week (despite rolling gold on every boss we killed that drops it) but both replaced mythic Highmaul pieces so my ilvl went down slightly.
Or have them give big amounts of apexis crystals. Would be a nice alternative to dailies, because these fucking sucks.
It's going to get worse. They changed the bag reward so that it only gives runes, gold, and BoA 630 ilvl armor tokens. All of those tanks and healers that were running dungeons for the chance at a mount or pet have no reason to do them anymore.
I actually love the 630 tokens and runes (although I generally hate that runes exist). I also do a daily random queue for some heirloom coins.
Agree they need to make a way for dungeons to stay relevant longer. I like dungeons.
daaaaaaaaammn nostaliga trip how times have changed due leveling. Like i really love how leveling works in draenor it has a steady flow to it they have learned a lot from it.
I am trying different specs for my rogue and i do like Assassination yes subtlety is the powerhouse but i still need to learn those rotations.
It's pretty straight forward: Cata 25 man heroics. You get ~125g per boss and each boss drops something like 5 or 6 items. After that none of the raids (including cata raids not on 25 heroic) give a ton of gold really. The Wrath raids are decent but can be pretty time consuming to run and most of your gold will come from vendoring items and the only decent gold comes from weapon drops at that level (as weapons always vendor for much more than armor).
Only exception imo is ToC which can be completed in less than 10 minutes as there is no trash and each boss drops a tier token that vendors for 50g for some reason, but, I'd only suggest that if you have an argent tabard for the quick teleport.
Thanks for that. I have 2 level 100 characters, hopefully it will be a nice stream of income since I'm tired trying to snipe and resell items on the ah ;p
Speaking of gold, there's an item I really want on the black market auction house right now and 2 guilds of horde are just sitting in there and killing me if I get anywhere near.. probably want to secure the item for one of their members
I srsly hate world PvP, wish I knew what I was getting into when I started playing
Gonna post this again - If anyone is playing horde on a European PvE server with a guild of nice people and decent progression, I'm willing to transfer at any time.
My druid is 670 and hunter is 644 so it shouldn't be a problem
Only problem is I'm unfamiliar with most cata raids except firelands and dragon soul since I started playing during MoP
I tried blackwings descent and Chimaeron one shot me after a certain point, think its his massacre ability in combination with something else but I don't know all his ablities
ablities
I also tried Dragon Soul a few times before and I always fall off his back lol
So this happened.
Pretty much bouncing right now, so exciting!
How many kills?
Talk to the gnome in the cage before you fight Chimaeron and you pretty much can't die the entire fight, as for Deathwing you just have to make sure you move to the left or right side of his body from time to time, not a big deal since they extended the time it takes for him to roll.
But yeah in general it will take some practice to kill some of the bosses as in some cases you will still have to do their mechanics.
Robin64
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For what it's worth, I've killed Onyxia every week for a long long time now, on multiple characters, and seen nothing..
So this happened.
Pretty much bouncing right now, so exciting!
Congratulations! been a long road right? That one is also on my to do list..same as Ashes of A'lar.
Also what weapons should a combat/subtlety rogue take? Daggers? 1 handed axes/maces for maximum dps output..i am still leveling though level 97 right now just want to know what the prefer is at max level.
Invincible not invisible that horse belonged to Arthas both in life and death.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Invincible
StormyTheRabbit
Member
Nay, everyone is spread to far out among the servers these days. Plus with Cross Realm play and whatnot, most people just stick to their own servers and add peoples BattleTags to play with other GAFfers.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
You must be great at parties.
I was tired..sue me.
