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CarbonatedFalcon
Member
RPGCrazied
Member
I've been playing Final Fantasy XIV ever since 6.1 dropped. Its really fun. Will check out the new stuff in 6.2 on my 100, then I'm back to XIV. I'm still subbed to WoW though.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
I don't have high hopes.
Probably gonna have a huge sub bump if the movie is good, and just ride that wave, claiming the game is good again.
Sax Russel
Banned
At least the LFR sets will still be shit ;D
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
it's like that on the ptr, and the patch has been put on the background downloader which usually means the only thing left for the ptr is just numbers changes, not graphical assets.
So it's like...80ish% confirmed?
omfg
The changes to personal loot method are nice but they are making a huge mistake (again) with the item level of loot being different between bosses. They say in this article that they want people to be looking at more than just item level for upgrades and then they go and make it so the item level between items in the same raid can be even bigger than before. They also completely ignore the negative aspects of having some item be completely useless because they are from an earlier boss. It also has a big impact on the gearing process, for instance, if someone gets a weapon from an early boss they could end up being behind everyone else gear wise as they probably wouldn't get a weapon upgrade over someone else until other people get weapons so they are stuck with a lower level weapon while other people have better ones because they got it from a later boss since the first player already got a weapon upgrade even though it is not as good.
Sax Russel
Banned
But guys guys guys it's *exciting* and shakes things up, don't you get it?!
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
And I thought item level inflation was bad enough as it was. Now we're actually moving to different levels WITHIN A SINGLE TIER. SMH Blizzard. I don't think they understand - previously, the item drops from later in a zone were simply itemized better/had desirable sockets/etc. Maybe a higher iLvl on a final boss. But since they fucked up the loot this expac with the oversimplification of stats, they decided they needed to do this.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Well wait how is this gonna work. If it always drops an amount comparable to group loot, but it's set on personal...
Wouldn't a group be able to go into heroic with like 19 people, kill a boss and then re-kill it for the 20th person and they ALWAYS get a piece of loot if it's on personal?
If that one person who isn't locked is guaranteed to get a piece, they wouldn't get a useless piece like if it were set on group loot right?
they would have a bit more than 20% chance to get a piece of loot
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I think the way it works is that it would still roll for 20 peoples worth of loot to distribute randomly, but if an ineligible person "wins" (someone who is already saved to the boss) that piece of loot is just never seen and vanishes into the ether. If 19/20 people are ineligible, chances are pretty low the one new dude will get anything.
I'm sure it doesn't ACTUALLY work like that, but that's how I would visualize the situation.
I'm visualizing the situation as a large number of malnourished and ill-equipped people huddled around a small campfire in the broken shell of a building trying to code on typewriters and sending that code by carrier pigeon to a faraway city to be manually entered into the PTR so it can make it all the way to Live for us to use.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Well it's interesting because its a new system but its stupid I think. It's going to be terrible to plan anything out and you're going to just keep hoping on getting war forged anything.
King Gilga
Member
Have we still no pics for the new Ascendance glyph?
Wait... They're not? Are they fucking serious?
Wait... They're not? Are they fucking serious?
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Yeah, I found that out recently too and was pretty bummed. It's such a shitty move. I mean, you put the work in, you made the models, why not upgrade warlock pets too? At least a couple of them really need the upgrade.
Blizz gonna Blizz.
I mean...Blizzard never upgraded old world flight paths with the new gryphon/rylak models either even though they've been around forever now. The subscription model seems like a bizarre fit for WoW at this point. The support they offer the game between expansions feels like the absolute bare minimum, and their unwillingness to provide balance tweaks, class updates, or systematic change to things like PvP leave the game feeling stagnant for very long stretches. I guess there's more bulletin points they can put on expansion packs to justify price gouging consumers though if they just push out large but infrequent updates.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Seems like something that is easy in theory but the game being so old it's like a game is jenga at this point.
Changing the old gryphon model may not just be Ctrl c Ctrl v. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be fixing this stuff though.
King Gilga
Member
Holy fuck that is so stupid.
I was looking forward to maybe checking out the new felhunter if I resubbed, it looks so much better.
Why, I just, I just can't.
Blizzard implied each subsequent boss or boss zone has clearly higher difficulty which will justify the item level increase. Hypothetically if a guild is stuck at boss A, they are confined to loot A anyways.
That's a big fresh tuning challenge which Blizz has never done before in WoW history, now they have to microtune each boss to be clearly harder than the predecessor in the same zone.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
The work they put into the demons for HFC make me think they're gonna be part of the next expansion.
Kinda like all the Iron Stars and shit in SoO.
boss being slightly harder or easier than another one shouldn't really effect the item level of the loot and that doesn't change it from being a negative experience
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Was the item slot split ever as dumb as it is? Archimonde has a few weapons but not for everyone. Some people will be OP as hell if they get fulled geared.
I don't have high hopes.
Probably gonna have a huge sub bump if the movie is good, and just ride that wave, claiming the game is good again.
"You mother fuckers wanted Sunwell. Here's Sunwell!"
Maybe Blizz saw a lot of guilds disintegrated because raiders didn't like banging their heads on BF/Maiden for similar rewards. I remember pugs bailed out like clockwork after downing Darmac or Thogar haha
Oops I didn't know.
Back in TBC I only remember the final boss had higher non-set item level.
RoninChaos
Member
I have three of the quests done for him do far. Hopefully I'll be done soon.
As far as leveling up followers and recruiting them, I have one from the inn for this week. Do you have a suggestion for leveling them quick?
I also built the bunker I think it was. How do I get the tokens you were talking about?
I don't have high hopes.
Probably gonna have a huge sub bump if the movie is good, and just ride that wave, claiming the game is good again.
This is pathetic.
It's like they want WoW to be shit.
Deputy Moonman
Member
lulz. gnomes be protecting my garrison and I've got ironforge music playing in the background for that vanilla feel.
The suggestion for leveling followers quickly is getting Harrison Jones. That is his entire purpose. You are stuck leveling them very slowly until RNG allows you to obtain him. As for the bunker, the weapon upgrade tokens are from the work orders. Just a time waiting game to get those built up.
Part of me honest to god wonders if they just saw early on how disappointing WoD was going to be and just gave up on it. Like before it even came out. They just shit out what they had done and started working on the next expansion instead.
I mean for real, they haven't even gotten around to fixing stuff that has been broke since launch. I still do 2 apexis dailies every week to trigger garrison invasions and since I've platinum'd them all I just go for Botani as it's the easiest... Anyhow, I always do Lost Veil Anzu and like half the mobs there are evade bugged and the whole gimmick of that area (consuming corpses to transform or whatever) doesn't even work correctly. Like 90% of the mobs I kill I can never consume their body.
I don't really want to pile on blizzard or anything, I wouldn't even say I outright hate Warlords (as there are aspects of it I actually do like) but idk man, it feels like they put it out there and moved on to something else. Even 6.2 which they say is the biggest content patch ever - half the new content is old dungeons. I think Timewalking is neat and frankly I'm more excited for mythic dungeons than I am a new raid, but, c'mon blizz, get real here for a sec.
Wouldn't surprise anyone really if you think about it. The two MAIN big things of WoD(Garrisons and Ashran) the majority of the playerbase seems to hate and the whole expansion has been Blizzard trying to push them more while the playerbase pushes back. And I don't just mean the usual forum complainers.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
this is probablyyyyy the worst patch cycle ive had experience with so far.
Cata was bad, but at least it stepped up with the raid content.
this... there's just nothing in general
Cata was bad, but at least it stepped up with the raid content.
this... there's just nothing in general
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I took my friend to Icecrown Citadel because he had never done it and wanted to see the Lich King fight.
He just got the achievements "The Frozen Throne" and "Invincible's Reins" on the same run.
Receipts that I'm a nice fellow to my friends:
He just got the achievements "The Frozen Throne" and "Invincible's Reins" on the same run.
Receipts that I'm a nice fellow to my friends:
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Yeah, but I don't know if at this point even an awesome burning legion expac would bring people back. They generated a ton of hype for WoD, then burned twice as much good will.
PvP gear being the same as PvE gear is some of the laziest shit I've seen come out of this dev team. And I do mean lazy. It feels like the team is being managed purely by the businessmen now, putting in the minimum effort to retain an acceptable amount of revenue. Skimp on "subsciption content" and put out store mounts and pets in the interim. I still wouldn't be playing if it wasn't for the token and being gold rich. Hell, I'm not sure if I'll re-up at the end of the month, even with gold. I did sell that BoE ring from my salvage by the way.
PvP gear being the same as PvE gear is some of the laziest shit I've seen come out of this dev team. And I do mean lazy. It feels like the team is being managed purely by the businessmen now, putting in the minimum effort to retain an acceptable amount of revenue. Skimp on "subsciption content" and put out store mounts and pets in the interim. I still wouldn't be playing if it wasn't for the token and being gold rich. Hell, I'm not sure if I'll re-up at the end of the month, even with gold. I did sell that BoE ring from my salvage by the way.
I took my friend to Icecrown Citadel because he had never done it and wanted to see the Lich King fight.
He just got the achievements "The Frozen Throne" and "Invincible's Reins" on the same run.
Receipts that I'm a nice fellow to my friends:
Gentleman Jack
Member
New In the Pet Shop: Transmog your pets into boss-models! Only $15 gets you the bundle from HFC! $45 gives them glowing halos!
Hah, I dunno. Saying blizzard has been trying to push them more implies that they have actually put some work into content after WoD launched to actually push them. Maybe a light tap rather than a push.
Also I kinda do feel like they have largely abandoned garrisons now anyway. When's the last time they mentioned tier 4 garrisons or new buildings. Remember the start of the expansion? They talked about that rather frequently. Not to mention they left most buildings to rot anyway, so many are so useless after an extended period of time. Heck in 6.2 they've actively decided to take the key feature of the barn away from it.
They even said that garrisons wouldn't be carried over into the next expansion a few months ago. How's that pushing them?
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Rarity says I have had over 25% chance for Invincible so far, nearly 33% for Onyxian Drake, nearly 30% for Flametalon of Alysrazor, and nearly 25% for Smoldering Egg of Millagazor.
SURELY I'LL GET ONE OF THIS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
SURELY I'LL GET ONE OF THIS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.