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[CarbonatedFalcon]

The best developers at Blizzard are currently working on Overwatch, ya.

<3 Tigole.

WoW team, who the fuck knows. Overall it's been a B-team since after 3.1, and right now it's impossible to know what the most senior/best devs are focused on.

 

[Entropia]

Ran my first timewalk dungeon.
Got The Black Morass.
Only two of us knew the dungeon at all.
OH JOY.

Yikes. Yeah, I guess people skip it because they hit 68 and go to the Wrath dungeons.

 

[StMeph]

So what you're saying is Warlords of Draenor is Dark Souls 2.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Forgot about this, but I guess there isn't going to be a dropped/class-specific legendary this expac. Unless they add something in 6.3. They mentioned they might have something besides the ring, but it doesn't look like that's coming to fruition.

 

[StMeph]

Forgot about this, but I guess there isn't going to be a dropped/class-specific legendary this expac. Unless they add something in 6.3. They mentioned they might have something besides the ring, but it doesn't look like that's coming to fruition.

They've said a lot of things this expansion that aren't coming to fruition.

 

[lazygecko]

Does timewalking group you up with anyone regardless of level? Since you can queue for timewalking at 71+.

Me and my RAF partner have our characters at 71 right now, and WotLK dungeons have mind-numbingly slow exp rates compared to what you get prior to that. Hopefully timewalking gives more.

 

[ampere]

Grom is the final boss guys

No wait he's jesus on a cross and you save him from a boss fight

Oh and he's all of a sudden a good guy with no real explanation. It was probably explained in a book

 

[Tacitus_]

Honestly, I'd be more or less fine with Tanaan if they didn't gate the reputations behind such awful dailies and if the spawn timers weren't such ass. And if the dropped baleful tokens were boa.

 

[Calcium]

I just resubbed to check out the new patch and I'm honestly pretty disappointed. The naval combat doesn't seem to bring anything new to the table and some of the missions just take way too long. 2 days for little to no reward? No thanks. I spent about an hour running around Tanaan Jungle and for a zone that was supposed to be similar to Timeless Isle it is pretty boring. I genuinely enjoyed running around exploring Timeless Isle, but Tanaan feels lifeless and boring. Maybe I'm just burned out on the game, but I don't really care for the new content.

 

[JSoup]

Yikes. Yeah, I guess people skip it because they hit 68 and go to the Wrath dungeons.

I've found, in the 11 or so toons I've leveled, that Black Morass doesn't pop up often in LFG, even when leveling with nothing but dungeon runs. So I get it someone who has only been playing a few years has never seen it, but two of these guys claimed to have been playing since vanilla.

 

[lazygecko]

Old Hillsbrad was not even a part of the default LFD rotation for a long time because it required you to go through the annoying pre-quest in Caverns of Time before unlocking it.

 

[Robin64]

Old Hillsbrad was not even a part of the default LFD rotation for a long time because it required you to go through the annoying pre-quest in Caverns of Time before unlocking it.

It's also not part of Timewalking, for some bizarre reason.

 

[lazygecko]

I think in the long term timewalking probably has the potential to be the single most welcomed feature of the expansion, much like transmogrification for Cataclysm. I hope they put some effort into really expanding it for the future. It's a great platform for both reutilizing legacy content in a meaningful way, and also breaking down the barriers for interaction between low level and max level characters.

 

[Tacitus_]

So I just checked and the "kill rares" quest for TI was a weekly and required 5 kills. The one in Tanaan is a daily and requires 10 kills/chests. What the hell Blizz.

There better be some respawning treasures because this is bullshit.

 

[StMeph]

So I just checked and the "kill rares" quest for TI was a weekly and required 5 kills. The one in Tanaan is a daily and requires 10 kills/chests. What the hell Blizz.

There better be some respawning treasures because this is bullshit.

There are random respawning chests (that are only lootable once, not shared).

But it's still bullshit.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

So I just checked and the "kill rares" quest for TI was a weekly and required 5 kills. The one in Tanaan is a daily and requires 10 kills/chests. What the hell Blizz.

There better be some respawning treasures because this is bullshit.

Hahahahahahahaha

So it's the Nagrand elites and chests grind.

Except you don't get a reward until you get x kills and y chests.


ahahahahahaha

 

[Sax Russel]

Leaked Blizzard Tanaan design meeting transcript.

Dude 1: Hey let's put a lot of demons all over the place cause there is some fucked up demonic shit going down all over, yo.

Dude 2: Oh hey, no no no, we have a daily quest we're planning to kill demons, don't put in too many.

 

[Tacitus_]

And the resulting compromise: "OK, we make one area with lots of demons but they will all be elites. Actually, let's make the majority of demons in the whole zone elites."

And the u-turn on reputations is so fucking stupid. If I could grind the 1-2k rep per day just from monsters I'd be content, but noope.

 

[Rokal]

It's also not part of Timewalking, for some bizarre reason.

I hope it's missing because they realized that escort-mission style dungeons are awful, players wouldn't want to revisit Old Hillsbrad, and that they should never make that sort of dungeon again.

 

[ZenaxPure]

Maybe I'm just burned out on the game, but I don't really care for the new content.

Nah, Tanaan is just a confusing zone. It doesn't really have any of the story/progression stuff daily zones of the past have had but it also doesn't have much of the rewarding repeatable content that TI had. I mean I guess I can't argue that they've never made a zone like this before... I just hope they never do it again going forward. As for naval stuff that is just an evolved follower system, if you didn't like the follower stuff before no reason to like it now.

Highlight of the patch for me is mythic dungeons which I am very much in love with, but, it's mostly an alt thing since my main can't use much of the gear from them. Still though, running some mythic dungeons on my shaman alt (who is in the appropriate ilvl range for it to be challenging) with my friends is the most fun I've had the entire xpac without a doubt.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

The Order of the Awakened daily gonna get real old. Finding those respawning treasures or rare elites is a bitch. Least you only have to get it to revered for Pathfinder, and it gives 1800 rep a day with the trading post bonus.

 

[Robin64]

I hope it's missing because they realized that escort-mission style dungeons are awful, players wouldn't want to revisit Old Hillsbrad, and that they should never make that sort of dungeon again.

Heh, yeah, but then they put in Black Morass over something straightforward like Ramparts.

 

[JSoup]

Finding those respawning treasures or rare elites is a bitch.

Treasures yes, but rares? Nah. I've been starting rare hunting groups and then realm hopping when none were up, which wasn't often. Most of them respawn pretty quickly and a bunch are never touched because they aren't out in plain sight.

 

[Tacitus_]

Where are you finding fast respawning rares? I sat at the southern fel draenei camp for over half an hour before a single rare spawned.

The Order of the Awakened daily gonna get real old. Finding those respawning treasures or rare elites is a bitch. Least you only have to get it to revered for Pathfinder, and it gives 1800 rep a day with the trading post bonus.

They got a ship at exalted that has arakkoa crew that counters two threats before equipment. Watch that be practically required for the legendary naval missions.

 

[ZenaxPure]

Bah, patch broke the legendary daggers so they don't work correctly. Agility stacks work but when the fury of the destroyer buff procs finishers don't generate combo points. Blizzard plz fix so I can have fun in timewalking dungeons.

 

[Shahadan]

So apparently you don't get heroic HFC caches unless you kill a few heroic bosses? Maybe they could have told us before. Also I'd like to know why.

 

[JSoup]

Where are you finding fast respawning rares? I sat at the southern fel draenei camp for over half an hour before a single rare spawned.

And there's your problem. There is a whole, wide zone with 50 some odd rares in it, sitting in one spot isn't optimal unless you're camping specific ones. Just grouping up and doing laps around the zone I clear the 10 fel crystal quest in a few minutes.

 

[StMeph]

So apparently you don't get heroic HFC caches unless you kill a few heroic bosses? Maybe they could have told us before. Also I'd like to know why.

It was noted before that they didn't like how caches were handled in T17.

The rationale was that people were getting too many pieces of gear from the next tier up before actually moving on to that tier of difficulty, so any early drops weren't impactful as upgrades or rewards. And it makes some sense, but to remove it entirely seems silly too. They could have raised the minimum boss kill count to be much higher instead, or required a full clear, or something.

Basically, like Garrison gold missions and Salvage Yards, it was too rewarding.

 

[phierce]

Where are you finding fast respawning rares? I sat at the southern fel draenei camp for over half an hour before a single rare spawned.



They got a ship at exalted that has arakkoa crew that counters two threats before equipment. Watch that be practically required for the legendary naval missions.

Unless it has changed from PTR/what people know, it's not needed.

 

[Tacitus_]

And there's your problem. There is a whole, wide zone with 50 some odd rares in it, sitting in one spot isn't optimal unless you're camping specific ones. Just grouping up and doing laps around the zone I clear the 10 fel crystal quest in a few minutes.

I was doing laps before that. Or rather, clearing the 3 areas for the daily quests. I found 2 or 3 rares during that time. I collected my last few remaining treasures and was one off so I decided to sit down in a spot that spawns 5 rares and one of the four champions to get the last one.

 

[TheYanger]

You're much better off looting the suspiciously glowing chests for the 10 crystals. Can get it done in mere minutes most of the time

 

[EmiPrime]

Fuck the shipyard and the horse it rode in on.

 

[davepoobond]

Hahahahahahahaha

So it's the Nagrand elites and chests grind.

Except you don't get a reward until you get x kills and y chests.


ahahahahahaha

who do they have designing this game now? all of those guys from the Titan team were supposed to make things better, not worse!

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

So I'll admit I failed silver proving grounds as destro twice. Just hard with Rain of Fire tickling and no longer generating embers. And limited interrupt.

Though I could just be bad

 

[EmiPrime]

So I'll admit I failed silver proving grounds

Are you sure you want to admit to that?

 

[LAUGHTREY]

So I'll admit I failed silver proving grounds as destro twice. Just hard with Rain of Fire tickling and no longer generating embers. And limited interrupt.

Though I could just be bad

Use cataclysm instead. Or go demo.

 

[Shahadan]

The shipyard is the only thing I like about this patch. You people are mad!

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Are you sure you want to admit to that?

Use cataclysm instead. Or go demo.

Well I did end up barely passing it on the 3rd try. Just got caught off guard with how difficult it would be.

Anyway, the shipyard tutorial sucks. Artificial 1 minute wait times. Though the shipyard in general just sucks, so...

 

[ZenaxPure]

The shipyard is the only thing I like about this patch. You people are mad!

Nah I actually like it too. I've always been a fan of party management stuff in games longgggggggggg before it was associated with facebook/mobile games and the boat stuff is a nice evolution of follower system.

 

[Shahadan]

Nah I actually like it too. I've always been a fan of party management stuff in games longgggggggggg before it was associated with facebook/mobile games and the boat stuff is a nice evolution of follower system.

Same here!
I also actually like (for now at least) that I can lose boats and manage their ability slots.
I've been lucky I guess and only had blue boats. It's probably pre-decided though, I couldn't have been lucky 6 times in a row *shrug*

 

[ZenaxPure]

Same here!
I also actually like (for now at least) that I can lose boats and manage their ability slots.
I've been lucky I guess and only had blue boats. It's probably pre-decided though, I couldn't have been lucky 6 times in a row *shrug*

Yeah, customization was the thing I wish the original follower system had, felt kind of lame everything was up to RNG. What I really like though is how the missions are laid out, I like how they gate the map with various blockades and you can do missions that grant buffs to parts of the map and stuff. It's a cool lay out instead of just a bunch of random missions from a list.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Same here!
I also actually like (for now at least) that I can lose boats and manage their ability slots.
I've been lucky I guess and only had blue boats. It's probably pre-decided though, I couldn't have been lucky 6 times in a row *shrug*

You're lucky. You can get green boats and it sucks. They only have a chance to proc rare or epic.

Also, RIP easy alt gearing:

@WarcraftDevs is the 650 baleful gear that drops in tanaan likely to become BoA? No use for my main but could be used by my alts.

No, but BoA gear can be acquired via naval missions.

 

[Tacitus_]

You're much better off looting the suspiciously glowing chests for the 10 crystals. Can get it done in mere minutes most of the time

I tried checking the one fort that had a lod f them but they didn't seem to be on a daily reset.

 

[Robin64]

Why is it that one of the dailies that opens up after I've slogged through a boring bonus objective is "do two more bonus objectives"? Fuck offfffffff

 

[ZenaxPure]

I tried checking the one fort that had a lod f them but they didn't seem to be on a daily reset.

All the chests that aren't one time treasures (which is 99% of them including the glowing ones) infinitely respawn. No daily reset or anything they just respawn occasionally, but only one person can loot them before they disappear. But there are seriously loads of the things around so it's not a big deal. Also in Arakkoa/Demon areas the chests are replaced with fragments or something, can't remember the name but they look like tiny glowing rocks on the ground.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Also, RIP easy alt gearing:

So damned stupid. Why do this, I'm not going to do TJ on 4 alts and the naval stuff is gated behind doing TJ.

Whatever Blizzard, just continue to crap on alts it's really fine.

Why is it that one of the dailies that opens up after I've slogged through a boring bonus objective is "do two more bonus objectives"? Fuck offfffffff

Cause, 'content'/time sink, we have nothing else for you to do on the island. Sorry.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Timewalking dungeons are just as lame as i thought they would be.

Nothing "new". Just like we're leveling up and no ones wearing heirlooms or something.

But if you get legendaries its like you are wearing heirlooms. We've come full circle.

Also I just noticed they didn't add anything at all for midsummer for WoD.

Even pandaria has it. wtf?

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

5/13H after the first night. Almost 6, but we only had time for two pulls on Gorefiend.

Iskar I think might be a roadblock though.

 

[Tacitus_]

All the chests that aren't one time treasures (which is 99% of them including the glowing ones) infinitely respawn. No daily reset or anything they just respawn occasionally, but only one person can loot them before they disappear. But there are seriously loads of the things around so it's not a big deal. Also in Arakkoa/Demon areas the chests are replaced with fragments or something, can't remember the name but they look like tiny glowing rocks on the ground.

Cool. Time to reinstallTomTom and make a daily route to run with all the chests.

 

[Milennia]

5/13H after the first night. Almost 6, but we only had time for two pulls on Gorefiend.

Iskar I think might be a roadblock though.

If you have trouble on iskar then tyrant will be the real mid instance roadblock for you, iskar is actually really easy with addons and mechanically compared to some of the later bosses.