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Gentleman Jack
Member
People would have joked about it during TBC, since that's when Legendaries changed from 'long ass quest, multiple raid instances involved, crafting and drop collecting required' to 'lol the boss just drops them.'
But then it actually happened in WoD. It would take a while to get the legendary ring that way, but it's there.
Robin64
Member
Oh I was specifically referring to the 6.2 part, which absolutely requires you to complete some "Legendary" naval missions.
Jag
Member
I'm in the same boat. Probably a combination of both. I'll play expansions through the story again and level my alts to max, but I'm not going to run Blizz's hamster wheel anymore.
Yup! This is probably my only real complaint for 6.2. I mean, sure, some of the other stuff sucks ass or could have been done better, but what you mentioned is just complete fucking garbage. Bugs the absolute shit out of me...
Gentleman Jack
Member
Yup. Don't know the details, but you can't farm every rare gold mission across all your alts every week anymore.
I'm very much in love with the black/red leather cat set from LFR. Wasn't planning on doing lfr on him this time around but I really want that set so I'm in.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Sorry for being lazy, but do you have the link or a picture? I want to see what you are talking about
http://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=2094/ironpelt-garb
Ironpelt Garb. By him I meant my rogue. He is like 683 ilvl right now so doesn't really need stuff from LFR but man I really dig that set a lot. LFR and the new honor gear share models (much like last tier) but the red/black version of that set is only from LFR. Can't really post a real screen of it because it's not available yet but the moment I previewed it from the dungeon journal I knew I had to have it.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
It is really shocking how 6.2 was supposed to be this 'huge' patch with a massive zone that is just empty. Log in finish the dailies in 30-45mins, send ships on missions, done. This is the content that is supposed to last until the end of the year?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i guess there would have to be a 6.3 sometime early next year since the expansion would potentially come out late in the year.
or maybe the expansion comes out at the end of the year.
if 6.3 is still to come i wonder if Farahlon will make it in. Where else are we gonna fight Grom? If he is even still the end boss
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
The Naaru ship/Tempest Keep is hanging out somewhere and they havent addressed it, so its going to be weird if they somehow integrate his storyline with that.
Not only is Farahlon not implemented, but there are no good leads left to serve as a catalyst to what created Netherstorm without Ner'zhul and Gul'dan.
Grom cannot be the last boss. He has nothing left to fight with. Blizzard has already shifted away from the concept that he will be the end boss.
In my efforts to de-clutter the center of my screen I decided to just turn off floating combat text completely. Maybe I'll use Mik's Scrolling Battle Text or something, but I'd have to configure it a lot and set a minimum threshold on numbers or something. It's evident to me now just how much the combat has changed from vanilla from being slow yet methodical to very fast-paced with constant ability spam and procs, and more focus on avoidable telegraphed abilities. And a lot of the design in place just was not made to really fit the latter.
The combat text just becomes an incomprehensible barrage of numbers that you just tune out other than knowing that you're dealing and taking damage. You don't really need to know how much damage each weapon swing does any more. The combat animations are also just a spastic mess that you stop paying attention to.
And on top of that you have the sound effects where a lot of them are still the 2004 originals that weren't really designed for the sheer frequency in which they occur today (for example the glyphed consecration for paladins that moves with you and keeps recasting itself), with how often they overlap and just turn into a cacophony. I think I'm going to start an extensive project to redesign a lot of the sounds to better accomodate the pace of the game today.
Also just makes me nostalgic for the general pace of the combat we had during vanilla and TBC. I think the game ought to move back towards that, just without as much of the passivity.
The combat text just becomes an incomprehensible barrage of numbers that you just tune out other than knowing that you're dealing and taking damage. You don't really need to know how much damage each weapon swing does any more. The combat animations are also just a spastic mess that you stop paying attention to.
And on top of that you have the sound effects where a lot of them are still the 2004 originals that weren't really designed for the sheer frequency in which they occur today (for example the glyphed consecration for paladins that moves with you and keeps recasting itself), with how often they overlap and just turn into a cacophony. I think I'm going to start an extensive project to redesign a lot of the sounds to better accomodate the pace of the game today.
Also just makes me nostalgic for the general pace of the combat we had during vanilla and TBC. I think the game ought to move back towards that, just without as much of the passivity.
King Gilga
Member
That looks better than any of the new tier/conquest sets...
Gentleman Jack
Member
It's simple but uses bold colors. A really appealing design, which a nice change of pace from the 'only heroic/mythic gets primary/secondary colors at full saturation' ethos that seemed to guide previous tiers of pauper raider rags.
Enosh
Member
I tried to turn off milks scrolling text once but i missed way too much info, I know it scrolls fast but if I look for a certain thing I can find it
the main this I was missing was a number of how many hits, so i know how many targets I'm hitting and reposition if out of let's say 5 targets I only see 4 hits
and the other thing was minor shit like for example searing totem hits, without it I never quite knew if my totem is in range of the target
but yeah the default UI bunch of numbers is kinda pointless
Once my weekend CM group is done getting golds I am going to unsubscribe. There is nothing for non-raiders in this patch and it's going to take forever for LFR to unlock fully. I can't even pass on the baleful gear to my alts to at least make those tedious grinds feel somewhat worthwhile. 6.2 is only two days old and already I can't be bothered to go to TJ.
Has anyone else had issues with their pet bars? My pet's special abilities no longer show up. I tried disabling all my addons already and did /reload ui a couple of times. Ugh.
For reference I am a Destro Lock. I'll double check my Huntard and see if he has the same issue.
edit: Huntard's pet skills are there, and my pet skills are there if I use Grimoire of Service rather than Supremacy. Does Supremacy remove the special abilities of pets?
For reference I am a Destro Lock. I'll double check my Huntard and see if he has the same issue.
edit: Huntard's pet skills are there, and my pet skills are there if I use Grimoire of Service rather than Supremacy. Does Supremacy remove the special abilities of pets?
Deleted both and reloaded. Still missing abilities. :/
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Drag them out from the pet spellbook?
And press F to pay respect to DW Frost:
And press F to pay respect to DW Frost:
It's not terrible, terrible, but still.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Now fix the 4pc bonus that pulls bosses from 3000000 miles away.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Please make Baleful tokens BoA Blizzard. If I get another Baleful Armament on my paladin that doesn't need it I'm gonna cry. Oh you want a 2hander weapon warlock, mage, druid? Sorry have a one hander even though their is no Baleful offhand.
You get BOA ones from the Shipyard.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
I'm holding on to them on my main just because it's so incredibly retarded that they're BoP, I don't expect that to last long at all. It seems like a mistake that they're not BoA.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Yes, yes I know. Which makes the issue even more ridiculous since they have it available.
JSoup
Banned
Are they even needed for it? I thought Netherstorm came to be when a planet got in a fight with a void lord and the planet lost, washing the survivors and what was less of the planet in arcane energy.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
That was after it was put into the nether by Ner'Zhul opening portals all over the planet.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
So I might need to play my Warlock for raiding. But I dread, DREAD doing the legendary questline on him. That and the base level of gearing are going to be terrible.
I think it's worse than the cloak tbh.
I think it's worse than the cloak tbh.
As it is right now the Draenor in the WoD timeline doesn't see the instability the original Draenor did. I don't really know who is left to push the world in a direction to where Draenor would be brought to ruin. Gul'dan is elsewhere. Ner'zhul is dead. Cho'gall might have been a candidate but he is dead too.
This is why I find 6.2's ending so bewildering. Nothing of consequence really happened inside the WoD timeline, and the characters that might have been able to bleed the story into something else have all been cut from the storyline. WoD essentially created a hyper simplified version of Draenor that somehow fails to suffer the same consequences we saw in the Outland timeline even when some of the actions of its cast mirror one another. As it stands this entire expansion pack is essentially a retcon to let some new version of Gul'dan live on. Absolutely absurd.
With Netherstorm in particular its exposure to the Twisting Nether only came about because of what Ner'zhul did. Him opening portals created vulnerabilities to outsiders essentially. From there things deteriorated quickly, and the Mana Forges made the situation considerably worse.
JSoup
Banned
More specifically (taken from Warcraft site):
I was thinking of the Ethereal's planet, my mistake.
So maybe we'll get a patch of someone being a dick on Farahlon with portals and such.
Probably too much to hope for.
5 days (7 days 1st week) and 6-7 hours but we can go over or raid extra days if the raid can make it, which during progression is a normal thing.
People tend to take time off for progress, so it just makes that easier.
thats for mythic progress that is.
Can't even be bothered to complete my naval missions bow because of it.
Look I enjoy having a shark boss as much as the next guy, but I honestly can't believe they made such a rookie mistake with it.
This shark ONLY drops an upgrade for your boats. This is stupid as fuck. Why would you even do that. It only ensures than in a month rerolls or returning players will have a hell of a hard time to find a raid group for it since nobody would ever do it twice.
I'm convinced this zone was done by a B-team while the real one is busy on the xpac.
This shark ONLY drops an upgrade for your boats. This is stupid as fuck. Why would you even do that. It only ensures than in a month rerolls or returning players will have a hell of a hard time to find a raid group for it since nobody would ever do it twice.
I'm convinced this zone was done by a B-team while the real one is busy on the xpac.
I've been hoping that the patches in this expansion suck due to them putting tons of resources into the next expansion to blow our minds.
But that probably won't be true...
It's always worse than we think. Watch the real team being on Overwatch, never coming back, and leaving us with the b team for the xpac!
In all fairness we don't know shit about who's working on what but it feels like different people these days