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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
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Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
It's like random heroic dungeon queue, which never has loot lockouts. Dungeon loot lockouts only come into play if you are trying to manually do repeat runs of a specific dungeon, but timewalking is random queue only so it's not a factor. If you queue 5 times and get the same dungeon 5 times in a row you can still have a chance to get loot off of every boss 5 times.
Robin64
Member
That's slightly better. It better be bloody huge, and amazing. Don't want some square room with pews.
Light's Hope does have a lot of lore though, I could see that being pretty well done.
Bottom line is, if they pick an old place it needs to be totally revamped, which I expect it will be.
It's still a work in progress anyway. This is from the blizzcon press kit and it seems to be the same spot from launch trailer but there have been some modifications since then. Greenery taking over is obvious but it looks like there are stairs that lead downward to the pew area (and that area is smaller than it previously was) now. Looks cool.
Also fwiw it will be more than one room. If you go back to the Legion launch trailer it shows a different room (the one with that notoriously large Draenor map on the wall). Interview at gamescom also said that different factions of a class may have different sections of the hall. Example they gave was like Sunwalkers having a different area from the Blood Knights. That was a maybe though so we'll see what happens I guess.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
jaundicejuice
Member
The Eversong Woods and Ghostlands cried out but no one could hear them because those two zones are in another instance.
The actual hilarious part is that Holy and Prot which are getting brand new weapons both have some awesome backstory to them already (Old Gods, Tyr and Archaedas + Discs of Norgannon backstory). Looks awesome, I want to do those quests.
Also not related at all, but, what is up with the weird ass maintenance times today?
You can get the 11 year achievement (it doesn't "ding" but it shows up) but you can't get the thunderfury and that achievement because they get mailed to you. Source - I tried it.
However, you might be able to convince a gm when you resub to give you the package once it is lost from your mail, but it's hard to say.
Oh. I was sure only a couple of class halls were revealed but the discussions in this thread seem to indicate more! Where's the best current info on all class halls?
jaundicejuice
Member
I'm actually kind of annoyed I can't log-in to my garrison this morning to check for gold missions to funnel into my current main.
No idea, the maintenance is going on for most of the day for some reason. It's not gonna be over til 6PM EST.
Yes. Sounds like it will be getting a makeover though.
It floated over to the Broken Isles. You can see it in some of the continent maps that they showed.
It also started later than usual. Really bizarre.
jaundicejuice
Member
And overlaps with every other game.
Of all the days to have a day off on...
Dog Problems
Banned
Seems to be up now. Might just be temporary but the little notice about maintenance is also gone.
jaundicejuice
Member
Thanks for the heads up, I was able to log-in do my garrison stuff, funnel more mats and gold to my main and do Venomhide daily 15 before I have to go out.
Robin64
Member
What the fuck is up with removing class identity things?
For all the pandering about "Class fantasy" at BlizzCon, they're really not showing that.
DK presences - GONE.
Paladin Seals - GONE.
Warrior Stances - GONE??
To Blizzard, the corner case for switching stances/seals/presences isn't worth being obtuse to people who don't care to read tooltips or learn their class. It's also easier just to bake the passives of those stances into the spec, so if you're Blood you're always automatically in Blood, and Frost is Frost, etc.
Warcraft 3 since everything is still warcraft 3 :lol:
Also, reading quests or wowpedia.
Well, you have Wowpedia to help you with that.
Timelines
Retcons - changes in lore
Locations
Organizations, clans, factions, etc.
Religions
Magics
Technologies
Class lore
Languages
Sources
Schweinehund
Member
Wonder if the heirloom is a dps upgrade from my class trinket + felhorn. Guess I should start doing some mythic dungeons.
Gentleman Jack
Member
There are youtube playlists that show the 3 main storylines from Warcraft III/Frozen Throne, that's where you really want to begin to understand the primary lore behind Vanilla, Burning Crusade and Wrath.
Cataclysm's primary arcs are told in the Goblin/Worgen starting zones and in the questlines through the new zones.
Mists story is literally everywhere, but doing the Lorewalker faction grind should get you the basic overview.
WoD's story is pretty much like mists, you have to pick a character/area of interest and quest in it to get the story. If you want to learn what happens to Garrosh, Grommash, etc you have to play through the zones most closely connected to them and/or make significant progress through the legendary quest.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Seals I can kind of see being part of the Paladin iconography, but presences were never part of the DK class fantasy for me. They existed purely for game mechanic purposes, just warrior stances with a DK coat of paint. I won't miss em.
Try checking out Nobbel's Youtube channel. He has loads of videos up about the story that goes into detail on certain zones or characters. This one is the overview to Warcraft as a whole.
, appreciated.jaundicejuice
Member
Nobbel's channel is awesome, can't second that recommendation enough.
While there is an over-arching story, each zone or sometimes chains of zones have their own contained stories. Some of those stories are wholly experienced through seeing that zone's questing to completion, some of them require a dungeon to finish the narrative off. If you like the lore, the best way to absorb a lot of it is to simply play through all of the quests. You won't get all of the answers but you'll start to know what questions you want to ask.
One of my favourite experiences is the slow boil of leveling an orc through Durotar, the Northern Barrens, Ashenvale, the Stone Talon Mountains and The Southern Barrens. You start off this lowly peon killing boars, start working your way up in the Barrens to bigger things, then you join the fight against the Alliance in Ashenvale and become part of an orc warband in Stone Talon Mountains. You even get a rank and progress up in the warband. Then you see the war in the Southern Barrens, with the Alliance knocking on the gates of Mulgore.
I love that chain of progression. It's probably my favourite lower-level quest chain in the game, improved only by the Goblin starter area. Because old gods, sharks with lasers, towns in boxes, zombies and explosions.
The Forsaken questing experience is pretty great too. You become the right hand ghoul of Sylvannas WIndrunner, oversee the destruction of Gilneas and advance the cause of the Forsaken war machine through the Hillsbrad Foothills up to the Western Plaugelands.
I'm playing through WotLK for the first time and what I find awesome is if you really see all of the questing through in a zone you get things like the Wrathgate cinematic or Arthas showing up everywhere. One in a dungeon most people just blow through in the dungeon finder and think nothing of. But if you quest through Grizzly Hills you basically discover that you're doing the work of the Lich King by cutting a bloody swathe through Drak'Tharon and his agent promises you immortality if you join him and Arthas.
Arthas is like this boogie man that you see from time to time while questing in Northrend. I don't think I saw Garrosh until that canned fight and cutscene in Nagrand.
While there is an over-arching story, each zone or sometimes chains of zones have their own contained stories. Some of those stories are wholly experienced through seeing that zone's questing to completion, some of them require a dungeon to finish the narrative off. If you like the lore, the best way to absorb a lot of it is to simply play through all of the quests. You won't get all of the answers but you'll start to know what questions you want to ask.
One of my favourite experiences is the slow boil of leveling an orc through Durotar, the Northern Barrens, Ashenvale, the Stone Talon Mountains and The Southern Barrens. You start off this lowly peon killing boars, start working your way up in the Barrens to bigger things, then you join the fight against the Alliance in Ashenvale and become part of an orc warband in Stone Talon Mountains. You even get a rank and progress up in the warband. Then you see the war in the Southern Barrens, with the Alliance knocking on the gates of Mulgore.
I love that chain of progression. It's probably my favourite lower-level quest chain in the game, improved only by the Goblin starter area. Because old gods, sharks with lasers, towns in boxes, zombies and explosions.
The Forsaken questing experience is pretty great too. You become the right hand ghoul of Sylvannas WIndrunner, oversee the destruction of Gilneas and advance the cause of the Forsaken war machine through the Hillsbrad Foothills up to the Western Plaugelands.
I'm playing through WotLK for the first time and what I find awesome is if you really see all of the questing through in a zone you get things like the Wrathgate cinematic or Arthas showing up everywhere. One in a dungeon most people just blow through in the dungeon finder and think nothing of. But if you quest through Grizzly Hills you basically discover that you're doing the work of the Lich King by cutting a bloody swathe through Drak'Tharon and his agent promises you immortality if you join him and Arthas.
Arthas is like this boogie man that you see from time to time while questing in Northrend. I don't think I saw Garrosh until that canned fight and cutscene in Nagrand.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Wrath's questing was top notch, nothing has really surpassed it in terms of rewarding users who went through the grind with story after story of Arthas's impact not only on Northrend, but on significant figures throughout the world of Azeroth and Outland. Icecrown Glacier remains the pinnacle of this design philosophy. There are weak spots in it (all of the Argent stuff in Zul'Drak :X) but it's pretty consistently good in every other respect.
Warlords tried to do the same, but without decades of established lore underneath it and the stupid time-travel conceit, it all came off as rather hollow. It didn't help that enormous chunks of the lore are tied behind months-long grinds for a legendary ring. The nagrand finale wasn't that bad, I liked the siege subevent and the notion that you were actually chasing down and cornering Garrosh once and for all.
I would love this hopefully it will happen in some sort of way.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
This is so terrible, but I currently have so many corporation offers in EVE Online that I'm making a spreadsheet to sort through them all. o.o
Spreadsheets in space indeed.
And screw this valor grind, though I'm probably gonna end up LFRing with my raid tonight just to blast through some of it.
Spreadsheets in space indeed.
And screw this valor grind, though I'm probably gonna end up LFRing with my raid tonight just to blast through some of it.
Yeah, I know the feeling. Ive never been too bothered by the gaps between WoW expacs because I'm usually ready for a long break from the game and by the time the next expac is out Im pumped to jump back in... WoD is different because I ended up quitting before 6.1 was even released. the Legion announcements have gotten me excited to play wow again.. but I dont wanna play this WoW and that 9 month wait really bums me out.
Apparently some people have been hearing a Fel Reaver noise since the new patch launched. Anyone else heard it?
Thought it was interesting.
Sources:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19891879569?page=1
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1902202-Fel-Reaver-noises
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3t7oat/felreaver_noises_im_not_insane_right/
I haven't been on long enough to hear it yet but hoping I do!
Thought it was interesting.
Sources:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19891879569?page=1
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1902202-Fel-Reaver-noises
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3t7oat/felreaver_noises_im_not_insane_right/
I haven't been on long enough to hear it yet but hoping I do!
I actually just heard it when I logged in one of my toons who was camped out in Warspear. It happened right as the loading screen finished.
Schweinehund
Member
I could log in around 2:00 PM EST
StormyTheRabbit
Member
Blue drake from EoE 2 weeks in a row....no Azure one though.
The blue isn't a 100% drop is it?
EDIT: WOW I'M A DUMMY
The blue isn't a 100% drop is it?
EDIT: WOW I'M A DUMMY
the quest chain is very short you just go to moonglade and follow malfurion on a short walk