That's more of a WoW/mmo problem than just WoD. I'll do as usual, not raid and cancel until the following patch.
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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
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That's more of a WoW/mmo problem than just WoD. I'll do as usual, not raid and cancel until the following patch.
Yeah ... that's what has me worried, get to 110 with a dh and then get bored.
They said the Beta would be this year.
Right, I said the game could've used one more tier. Especially because they raised the price.
But the quality of the raids what WoD had has been phenomenal.
Part of the problem is easy to ID as well.
Oh hey, you can beat this boss on LFR if your not in a guild.
Got a guild? Cool, beat him on normal!
Congratulations now do it on heroic.
Hey you managed to do that, well you want more right, do it AGAIN, but now on mythic.
Seriously, that shit, really does not help at all. It drags things out.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i think it looks good overall.
my idea about a "command center" thing seemed to basically be what the class order is.
artifacts are definitely the most interesting part. honor system is nice
my idea about a "command center" thing seemed to basically be what the class order is.
artifacts are definitely the most interesting part. honor system is nice
unfortunately we have to wait until sunday to learn more I think.
Left with tons of questions after that. PvP gear still in the game? if the currency is gone what will happen to arena and rewards that way?
As Robin said, the biggest part of the game is max level, what are we going to be doing.
Class balance? Racial balance (worst it has ever been) New talents? New abilities. What about a response or at least take a stance how they felt about removing all the abilities they did.
Left with tons of questions after that. PvP gear still in the game? if the currency is gone what will happen to arena and rewards that way?
As Robin said, the biggest part of the game is max level, what are we going to be doing.
Class balance? Racial balance (worst it has ever been) New talents? New abilities. What about a response or at least take a stance how they felt about removing all the abilities they did.
Naxxramas was a 15-boss piss easy raid lifted straight out of vanilla and 'retuned', as in nerfed to infinity. Using it to prove anything is disingenuous.
I still have no idea after all these years why people feel the need to be suscribed all year long or even feel uneasy about cancelling and coming back later.
Hell, even subscribing for 6 months at once seems ridiculous to me.
There is no way a game will provide you with that much content
SargerusBR
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WAIT WAIT WAIT
Aleeria and Turalyon are back? :O
Aleeria and Turalyon are back? :O
CarbonatedFalcon
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Agree.
It was new to 99% of the playerbase, unlike Mythic WoD raids which have been seen (at different difficulties) by everyone with even a mild interest in PvE. Hell, if we're talking about things being returned as a negative, then we should be absolutely shitting over the new expansion. Illidan? Dalaran? Burning Legion?
"Returned," and no doubt nerfed to infinity.
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It'd be disingenuous if players had seen that content before. To over literally 99% of players it was new content.
Point being, if the release was soon, Beta would be soon, and a more specific date like "next month" would have been announced. That would have been bold and generated a lot of buzz. There was some hope that the quick end to WoD and early expansion announcement meant the expansion would come out really quickly (like, by the end of the year), and while that may have been unlikely, it was a possibility. Now it doesn't seem like a possibility at all, and at the rate subs are already dropping, if it's a year before the actual release, where will it be at? 3 million? Less?
The bigger point is, they dropped absolutely no bombshells or anything that didn't seem like more of the same. And more of the same is fine, to a point, but it seems to indicate that they are just accepting the attrition as inevitable. So those people like me who have been gone for a while but dipped back in using tokens are going to drop back out when our gold dries up, and at that point you'll see the real subscription numbers, and they won't be pretty.
Story stuff seems on the right track, like it's actually going to pick up where we left off in MoP instead of random AU crap that felt more like a movie tie-in than anything else. Really excited for all the new questing and stuff but the lack of endgame talk does leave a lot to be desired. Still a lot for them to talk about obviously though so I'm not hitting any panic buttons or anything yet.
I'm actually insanely excited about the location they picked for the expansion. Them shoving all the middle of the ocean landmasses into 1 xpac has been my biggest fear for a long time. Very happy about what happened here.
I'm actually insanely excited about the location they picked for the expansion. Them shoving all the middle of the ocean landmasses into 1 xpac has been my biggest fear for a long time. Very happy about what happened here.
Freyjadour
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As someone who did Naxx 40 in Vanilla, I got to play it with 10 people I really liked playing with rather than the other 15 / 25 who I just put up with playing with in Vanilla / BC, so I didn't mind Wrath Naxx at all.
The achievements were pretty fun as well. In hindsight, Wrath's launch was fucking fantastic.
RoninChaos
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The way your comment came off was that the raids were bad. They weren't. So that's what I was responding to.
RPGCrazied
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So, everyone gets an artifact? No raiding required? It powers up from quests or what?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
It's a continuation of the burning legion story line, which is basically draenor. Mop didnt have anything to do with burning legion
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Quick total up...
DUNGEONS:
Halls of Valor
Black Rook Hold
Vault of the Wardens
Eye of Azshara
Darkheart Thicket
Neltharion's Lair
Helheim
Suramar City
Violet Hold
RAIDS:
The Emerald Nightmare (7 bosses)
Suramar Palace (10 bosses)
BATTLEGROUNDS and ARENAS:
None
Yay...
DUNGEONS:
Halls of Valor
Black Rook Hold
Vault of the Wardens
Eye of Azshara
Darkheart Thicket
Neltharion's Lair
Helheim
Suramar City
Violet Hold
RAIDS:
The Emerald Nightmare (7 bosses)
Suramar Palace (10 bosses)
BATTLEGROUNDS and ARENAS:
None
Yay...
It'll be locked behind either/or (guessing) LFR and daily CDs/quests.
Yeah, that's a lot of bollocks. Needs a lot more big announcements, but I'm expecting fuck all.
Freyjadour
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The way your comment came off was that the raids were bad. They weren't. So that's what I was responding to.
The entire context of that quote was "Draenor had x raids with y bosses and we were happy with that", so...
SargerusBR
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I may be wrong but didn't Xavius died in the Stormrage novel?
xxxXillid@anXx3
Sounds like someone didn't do the legendary quest chain in MoP. Literally the entire thing was about preparing our world for a Burning Legion invasion. They are mentioned by name on multiple occasions by Wrathion and there is even a quest where the world gets engulfed by a green fire. This is the expansion that should have came after MoP but they let us down instead.
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Wrathion made WoD happen to prepare us for the legion. Funny thing is, he's reponsible for their return too.
Shame they didn't make him appear in WoD (especially since we know he's there with us), would have been interesting, like everything that has been cut
HarryDemeanor
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My Blood Elf Demon Hunter will be named Illithas.
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"Magni once forged the Ashbringer and will forge it once again"
So what the fuck is happening to the Coucil of 3 Hammers?
So what the fuck is happening to the Coucil of 3 Hammers?
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Well he's at the very end of the legendary quest chain hiding in a corner... So that's something I guess.
They never actually made his motives of Draenor clear which could be for any number of reasons, like cut story content which wouldn't be surprising. I will cynically hold onto the idea that they never had any idea for his story on Draenor and they just wanted to put Draenor in the game.
SargerusBR
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Is DH really only available for NE and BE? That is a major disappointment.
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Gotta save money on animations breh
it's basiaclly an entirely new model. It would definitely be a waste of resources to get it working on everyone (not just horns and wings, look at them they've got the legs and hands they've got everything redone in true illidan style)
RPGCrazied
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Yep. I'm guessing they start at 100 too?
That will change eventually. Blizzard does restrictions like this at first but opens them up later.
Imagine, one day you will be a flying tattooed wing dwarf.
Tauren Demon Hunter seems kinda bad though.