Lanrutcon
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MoP raids on 25 man are still kinda hard for most specs. My suggestions: get your lock the Kazzak lifeleech trinket. It helps a lot, I've found.
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MoP raids on 25 man are still kinda hard for most specs. My suggestions: get your lock the Kazzak lifeleech trinket. It helps a lot, I've found.
Cool, will try that on my next run.
Like I said... 2 shotting the weenie packs. Don't really have trouble on trash outside of shadowburning my own face when they reflect.
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Rösti
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That would equal release of the Legion Pre-Expansion Patch on July 19, which seems about right. That would provide enough time for players to complete the Broken Shore scenario, Legion invasions, the return of Magni, Khadgar's visit to Karazhan, the Council of Six, the defense of Dalaran and the summoning of Alodi.
Of course, the majority of the before mentioned events have yet to be tested on the PTR. But maybe they will keep it that way in order to provide the players some surprises? The patch should be here soon regardless.
You should be pulling every pack upto the first boss in one pull. If you can't, your chances of clearing 10 times in 20 minutes is pretty low.
Oh. That might change things. The spell reflect guys are assholes.
jaundicejuice
Member
Here's a sketch of how I imagine my Gnome Shadow Priest will look when I use Surrender to Madness
and shortly die soon after because I let my insaity drop too quickly
Dog Problems
Banned
Haha, that is really nice and it makes me want to have a gnome shadow priest.
That's literally what Moon Guard goldshire is known for. Pick a different server if it bothers you. It's famous for it.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
huh, never heard about that.
jaundicejuice
Member
Male gnomes are so fantastically hideous. They're perfect for Shadow Priests and Warlocks.
Moonguard Goldshire is widely known as Pornshire. I think Silvermoon is the Horde equivalent. It's not like the entire server is erp, but those areas are pretty infamous for it. I always rip on people, in a lighthearted way, when I get grouped with people from Moonguard.
I thought the southern landmass was supposed to be a continent filled with Ogres.
Let me show you the wonders of Moon Guard Goldshire with the MRP mod turned on. This used to be a guild hobby on offnights. Possibly NSFW though all text.
Yeah they said that at the start of the xpac (and since people won't welcome the idea to ever go back to draenor, we will never see it), but there was also an island on the map between the other continent and nagrand.
Those pictures are like 6 years old fam.
jaundicejuice
Member
I like coming up with RP appropriate names for my toons rather than weird puns related to their class or race (Anklebiter or Moardots), but that's about the width and length of it. I've seen some neat-ish looking RP stuff posted on r/wow but every time I entertain the idea of trying an RP server out, the stuff that Yanger just posted comes to mind and I sort of recoil away.
You just have to find legit RP groups, even on RP servers most people don't roleplay, but there are definitely those that do. I have a RL friend that is into larping and the whole 9 yards, he's part of a pretty big rp community on his server for example. I don't know a lot about it beyond that, it's not for me.
Robin64
Member
My RP server, The Sha'tar, was quiet and small and full of "serious" RPers. ERP happened, but it was pretty rare. We had server-wide storylines, everyone was involved, it was amazing. Then cross-realm happened and suddenly we had Argent Dawn players everywhere. AD is Europe's version of US's Moonglade.
Ive barely touched any endgame stuff with my Monk, but I decided that I want to level another character before legion. Luckily my buddy wanted to do the same, so we're gonna level a warrior and druid together. I've always wanted to play a warrior at max level, so I'm really looking forward to leveling up.
Sargeras is such a high pop server. The starting area is filled with players haha.
Sargeras is such a high pop server. The starting area is filled with players haha.
You really went all out on your character, eh?!
Robin64
Member
For fun, let's compare Broken Isles map from the beginning to now.
This is the first version of the map available to public.
And this is the version as it stand now on beta.
And yeah, the map name is "Troll Raid". kek.
This is the first version of the map available to public.
And this is the version as it stand now on beta.
And yeah, the map name is "Troll Raid". kek.
I expected more cuts tbh
Not the first time they do this, always makes me laugh for some reason.
Well at least Thal'dranath was already dismissed, we'll not be waiting for it like we did with farahlon.
Like that time they totally did not promise Farahlon to be in the game, right
What a mess that was. To think at one time it almost seemed like they want to stretch out Draenor over two expansions.
E: Oh, I didn't know Thal'dranath was scrapped. Damn that's a shame
I really looked forward towards that zone, but at least they were upfront with it.Rösti;209141983 said:
Are all of those events available after 7.0 to players without Legion? I was wondering about that since Broken Shore is content on the Broken Isles
Like that time they totally did not promise Farahlon to be in the game, right
What a mess that was. To think at one time it almost seemed like they want to stretch out Draenor over two expansions.
E: Oh, I didn't know Thal'dranath was scrapped. Damn that's a shame
Farahlon and that "Ogre Isle" would have been good 6.1/6.3 patch zones and would have alleviated a lot of content drought issues. I still honestly think they're going to fuck it up again in Legion, no faith in the dev team in that regard
Robin64
Member
Certainly the biggest change. The landscape of Gorgrond changed a lot too, with the harbor being moved entirely and the introduction of the green area in the east (which was probably Farahlon leftovers). Shadowmoon changed a lot, and I think at one point the alpha questline for it was totally different to how it ended up. There was also an area near where Khadgar's tower is now, a mountain with an hourglass on. That's where we were meant to come into Draenor initially.
Also Tanaan seemed to build up through the patches as legit jungle, only turning to the fel-ridden shithole very late in development. I do wonder if that wasn't their initial plan either, but who knows.
Kinda coming around on Survival after being disappointed by MM and BM.
Still a lot of things I don't care for.
Like the new aspects, especially what they did to Cheetah.
Camo continues to be awkward for no reason.
Not enough synergy between the player and the pet.
Everything about Spitting Cobra.
Removal of Glaive Toss.
I do like the overall rotation and Mongoose Bite charges.
The animations are really nice, especially Dragonsfire Grenade, Harpoon, and traps.
I also wish they would just remove exotic pets, with MM not really using pets anymore, it's not really that big of a boon to BM, so no reason Survival should suffer.
Still a lot of things I don't care for.
Like the new aspects, especially what they did to Cheetah.
Camo continues to be awkward for no reason.
Not enough synergy between the player and the pet.
Everything about Spitting Cobra.
Removal of Glaive Toss.
I do like the overall rotation and Mongoose Bite charges.
The animations are really nice, especially Dragonsfire Grenade, Harpoon, and traps.
I also wish they would just remove exotic pets, with MM not really using pets anymore, it's not really that big of a boon to BM, so no reason Survival should suffer.
I remember that, that made much more sense. Sadly, they once again went for THE EPICK instead, like that time we were supposed to enter Deepholm through Deathwing Scar near Burning Steppes, which made sense because Deathwing hid himself for years in Deepholm and that's where he burst from when he returned to Azeroth so yeah that did rip a hole into elemental planes, and instead we gain access through Maelstrom because oh shut up.
AND THEN THEY MADE IT EVEN STUPIDER WTH MADNESS OF DEATHWING
What was there to look forward to? We know pretty much nothing about it other than the fact that it was extremely similar to other Elven ruins with the Legion invading. There are loads of other cool places in the waters around The Broken Isles. Kezan. Plunder Isles. Kul Tiras. Zandalar. So much more potential for what could be done.E: Oh, I didn't know Thal'dranath was scrapped. Damn that's a shame
I doubt we'll go to any of those. Too important for a patch zone.
Yeah, not expecting anything too crazy. Dream big though. It's more likely they expand out on some place in the old world I'm thinking with how much attention Karazahn and Ulduar are getting. Love how many options exist for places to go with the story Legion set up.
Never say never but to be honest the only one of those places that is even remotely close to the Broken Isles is Kul'Tiras. That's the only one I could see being used for anything but even then I'm not sure.
Though since we're on the speculation train the one thing I am curious about is if we'll see some sort of N'zoth raid during the expansion. His prison is pretty close to the Broken Isles based on the maps in the Chronicle.
E: Oh, I didn't know Thal'dranath was scrapped. Damn that's a shame
It's only scrapped in the sense that they came up with something else instead. They said they didn't want to do yet another ruined Night Elf zone and when you play Legion for a bit you'll understand why.
jaundicejuice
Member
The only expectations I have for content in Legion are based on what's already in the beta. Various members of the dev team have stated they've learned from their mistakes with WoD but at this point they need to show, not say. I just hope the flex-leveling and class-specific stuff makes rolling alts fun through what content there is. It looks like Legion will have a lot more "replay value" than WoD's PVE and end-game did.
As far as I'm concerned, if we ever see kul'tiras it will be as a faction for the inevitable azshara expansion (unless she's the Legion end boss and the zone is related but not holding my breath).
Problem with their explanation about thal'dranath is 1) it sounds like a bullshit excuse and 2) if we're going to have a zone anyway why not keep the location and landmass and do something different than elven ruins there.
What it tells me it that either they haven't started to work on it at all or we're not going to get a new zone.
I think this is obvious right? I mean I hope so. People's outrage confuses me when it seems abundantly clear that Thal'Dranath was nothing more than an idea. When Legion was in early alpha it was just an untextured landmass with its name written on it and I suspect that is as far as the zone ever got in actual development.
I mean the other zones weren't even done yet (Suramar especially was only finished fairly recently), I really doubt any actual dev time went into that zone.
I doubt the state of the other zones in the playable alpha is reflecting anything. Zones take a long time and they could have begun the general work on it. They should have anyway, devs must move on to the next xpac after all if they want to not be two years late again.
Then again I don't really care, and I don't want Tanaan 2, so...
I just don't see them throwing away what was done in favor of something requiring more work, while still being related to the raid they were planning to go with it anyway.
Sax Russel
Banned
Kul Tiras will be the new hub/Isle of Thunder-like zone added for the Azshara T19 raid! #believe
Had a weird nostalgia trip today, and it wasnt even from situations of past expansions lol
Guild wise specifically, so many dead guilds, even 2 of my own in a single expansion which has never happened to me before.
I hate that adapt period and its even worse when you are forced to go through it.
I imagine many people have had it way worse than me in terms of guild deaths but damn, just thinking back on it.
Suppose that is slowing down now that the expac is finally coming to a close and pre patch is soon for most people.
Time to buy a shirt that says i survived WOD, somehow raiding every week.
Guild wise specifically, so many dead guilds, even 2 of my own in a single expansion which has never happened to me before.
I hate that adapt period and its even worse when you are forced to go through it.
I imagine many people have had it way worse than me in terms of guild deaths but damn, just thinking back on it.
Suppose that is slowing down now that the expac is finally coming to a close and pre patch is soon for most people.
Time to buy a shirt that says i survived WOD, somehow raiding every week.
I've posted it before, but that's what I want the 'mega dungeon' or whatever to be. A giant instanced zone with about 20-40 people with random bosses sprinkled throughout that you have to group up for.
Basically an Everquest dungeon
I would like them to heavily rebalance 1-60 leveling so it's actually worthwhile again and takes time and effort.
Maybe 1-30 is kinda easy to hook people in, but make 30-60 more intense.
And to balance that out, add in a bunch of "epic" questlines that let you bypass all the old expansion areas if you want.
Outlands, Wrath, and WoD all kinda suck.
Cata zones are alright if you ignore water area.
I enjoy leveling in mists, but I don't know if anyone else does.
Maybe 1-30 is kinda easy to hook people in, but make 30-60 more intense.
And to balance that out, add in a bunch of "epic" questlines that let you bypass all the old expansion areas if you want.
Outlands, Wrath, and WoD all kinda suck.
Cata zones are alright if you ignore water area.
I enjoy leveling in mists, but I don't know if anyone else does.
All old zones scaling with you for previous expac levels might be the best solution, so you could go 1-100 anywhere from Vanilla to WoD leveling, and then move on to the new continent for the new levels. With proper scaling they could make Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms get much more use, the updated zones are already solid from the Cataclysm update
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Naa man, we're gonna find out that Vol'Jin
isn't actually dead
applying zone scaling from 1-100 for all zones would be the godliest change possible
I would definitely prefer zone scaling.
My only concern is people tend to get weird/angry at zone scaling in RPG's.
And it might be weird for world PVP.
Though it could work as an optional phased/instance type thing that that you have to turn on.
There are valid complaints against level scaling in RPGs but I think the way WoW handles it is pretty good. Having mobs scale to your level instead of scaling you down means your item level still matters so there is no feeling like you're being nerfed or anything, which is usually the biggest complaint I see against it.