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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
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Rose of Eternity
Banned
That is literally already the class hold. Well, was. Once they let all these crazy races become whatever class it sort of broke everything.
There's a couple 'obvious' class halls locations:
Rogue - Ravenholdt Manor (Had its own reputation from beginning of Vanilla, both factions' Rogues went there for class quests)
Druid - Moonglade (Already a class quest location for both factions' Druids)
DK - Archerus (Practically a class hall already)
Monks - The 50% XP Temple where both factions teleport to do quests
But I kinda hope they come up with new stuff...
Rogue - Ravenholdt Manor (Had its own reputation from beginning of Vanilla, both factions' Rogues went there for class quests)
Druid - Moonglade (Already a class quest location for both factions' Druids)
DK - Archerus (Practically a class hall already)
Monks - The 50% XP Temple where both factions teleport to do quests
But I kinda hope they come up with new stuff...
JSoup
Banned
It's the champions thing that gets me.
The champions are known WoW characters that now work for you.
Which is neat, until you realize that there are maybe two or three well known or otherwise "legendary" figures per class, even less if we're just counting ones that are still alive and/or actually on Azeroth.
And then I think about how the mage hall will be. Oh, boy, my kill team of Meryl Felstorm, Archmage Vargoth and Millhouse Manastorm. A crybaby, an lazy fuck and a duffus.
Oh, boy, can't wait.
The champions are known WoW characters that now work for you.
Which is neat, until you realize that there are maybe two or three well known or otherwise "legendary" figures per class, even less if we're just counting ones that are still alive and/or actually on Azeroth.
And then I think about how the mage hall will be. Oh, boy, my kill team of Meryl Felstorm, Archmage Vargoth and Millhouse Manastorm. A crybaby, an lazy fuck and a duffus.
Oh, boy, can't wait.
Yeah if they nail other classes that precisely than I'd say they're doing a good job.
Freyjadour
Member
Rogues are Dalaran Sewers, with the rest of the garbage, despite the fact that it should be Ravenholdt.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Sounds good to me.
Didn't they say Rogues' class hall "could be" in Dalaran as in they're not sure yet.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Rogues might get the Dalaran Sewers as a class hall? The fuck? Did they forget they already have a kick ass place to put a class hall for rogues?
Blizz doesn't remember anything that made WoW great in the past, nor do they care. All they care about now is accessibility, re-usability, simplifying/dumbing down, pandering, etc.
Why do you think Dalaran is the capitol city for Legion? So they could go 2 expansions in a row without 1 new capitol city being added, rehash another dungeon, and most likely just throw the rogues into the sewers for even more re-usability.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
He basically says you can't transmog legendaries because it would be too hard for people to get them.
=|
JSoup
Banned
To be completely honest, I'll probably enjoy it either way. I just find the idea of "mage heros" being funny. Most of them are dorks. Lovable dorks, but still.
mysteriousmage09 said:
Because if there's one thing I think of when I remember the "good ol' days" of WoW it is Ravenholdt. Are you hoping to grind some more Syndicate Emblems for a reputation that does essentially nothing? Give me a break. Move on with your life and go find a game you enjoy and leave the hyperbole elsewhere.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Honestly Dalaran should be the permanent neutral city for all Azeroth-based expansions. It's a floating city that can go wherever it wants. They should have flown the fucking thing to Draenor.
Fair criticism of them. I admittedly don't do CMs much after I clear them on my Monk and DK, but I do have fun with the initial "figure it out" sort of like clearing a new raid instance. It's still content and I don't think it takes them too long to update heroic -> challenge mode, so I hope they keep them around.
I think those could be fine, provided they are updated. Peak of Serenity is a neat Monk area, but I have pretty much 0 reason to ever go there. DKs have to go home to Runeforge stuff, but for Monks it's just another teleport basically.
Interfectum
Member
So there's going to be two versions of Dalaran? Sloppy...
I really liked Dalaran in WotLK and it coming back is a huge plus in my mind. Even bigger one would have been if Blizzard had designed a new capital like Dalaran but three expansions without anything coming close to Dalaran shows that maybe some things are better left as they are.
Best thing about Dalaran is that it's compact and houses both factions. Orgrimmar and SW are about three times too big to my liking and Shrine in MoP had factions split so far you couldn't even see the other faction players walking around.
Best thing about Dalaran is that it's compact and houses both factions. Orgrimmar and SW are about three times too big to my liking and Shrine in MoP had factions split so far you couldn't even see the other faction players walking around.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Meh. It's not any sloppier than Outland and Northrend sort of existing "in the past" as it is. The version of Dalran in Northrend is just in the past.
I'm curious about what is going to be in all of the little Dalaran shops, since tier vendors aren't a thing anymore.
Interfectum
Member
I dunno I think its cool if they could reuse existing towns instead of copy / pasting into a "new" town. Just makes it feel less and less like a "world." They didn't do pre / post Cataclysm Stormwind, etc. They just integrated the old and new together... it's what they should have done here IMO.
JSoup
Banned
If they couldn't make a portal big enough for the Skyfire, I doubt one could be made for a whole island.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
That's different, as those are still in the same physical location. The Dalarans are in two different physical, un-instanced locations. Like, if I am flying from Icecrown and land in Dalaran, I can't be in the same place as someone who flew over to Dalaran from Suramar in the Broken Isles.
Interfectum
Member
I figured during the world event they'd move the city out of Icecrown and leave behind flight path, important quest hubs + portal to new Dalaran. Probably too much work but was hoping they'd figure it out. Not a deal breaker or anything just meh.
Level 100, do a couple of weeks worth of dailies for 3 Tanaan reputations, get loremaster, explorer, find a bunch of treasures and do the old apexis dailies.
So, still then same.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Missed the point completely but continue on with your shitposting.
I do agree with this but for the love of god i do hope they improve it so it isn't lagaran it was just terrible in Wrath. Dalaran feels good but so cramped when you were there they need to open up more space and make it a bit bigger for the sake of it.
Do you propose they spend a large amount of time altering WotLK content so that it works without Dalaran being there? It's an MMO, zones exist as snapshots in time.
Look in the Orgrimmar throne room on live, Garrosh and Nazgrim are standing right next to Voljin.
I will be surprised if double jump makes it to live servers honestly. It looks really hard to balance, unless it's not really that strong (or just like a forward disengage with a CD).
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
That definitely seems like a worse way to go about it than just having old Dalaran in Northrend and New Dalaran in Broken Isles, imo.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
The lag was unrelated to the city. It was because you essentially had two zones loaded at once with Crystalsong and Dalaran right on top of eachother.
This time Dalaran looks to be floating just off the coast, so it shouldn't be a problem.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
I can see double jump breaking so many old things, let alone new ones that they can't possibly foresee.
Number one on my list of things announced that don't make it to live.
Number one on my list of things announced that don't make it to live.
That could be it yeah no wonder it was called lagaran i went back to IF or SW the moment i was loaded in.
I would imagine they designed all the new content with double jump in mind (in fact, they've said as much) - so the only old content you'd really have to worry about is BGs and arenas. Double jump breaking things in Cata dungeons isn't really a big deal.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Pretty sure the main reason was Wintergrasp being so close and not instanced. That's why they added the queue to join it. Crystalsong is an incredibly tiny zone with not much in it. I could also see a lot of the lag/slowdown, could have been due to the graphics bump at the time. Wrath is when they went through the first major overhaul on that front. But ultimately, yes, Dalaran's location, while perfect for what was going on lore wise, was really bad in performance for basically everyone.
There is nothing in crystalsong because of dalalag. There are two empty faction camps that were supposed to be used in quests and they decided against it because of dalaran.
Yeah, double jump seems like such an out there addition.
Mobility is totally possible without it. Double jump could end up breaking battlegrounds and arenas as well.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Kil'jaeden round two.
Eh, dunno. It'll probably be a heroic leap without the pathing problems. They'll just put invisible walls to the places they don't want you to jump to.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Because that always works really well
Reminds me of the ongoing game on getting into Mt. Hyjal before Cataclysm lol.
-Really easy, just do these jumps and navigate through a few walls and boom! Have fun!
-A bit harder to get into now but still not terrible!
-They really don't want people in here anymore, it's getting to be a hell of a chore to make the jumps properly and walls are everywhere!
-Hmmm, nothing seems to have changed much, I can still get in and expl...... "No mans land".
BibleThump
Finished Chapter 3 of the Legendary Ring quest. On the part where I have to upgrade my Shipyard and collect Tomes from HFC.
I'm enjoying the game a lot more now that I've decided to basically ignore all my alts aside from collecting the Garrison Cache every day. No clearing the mine/herb garden 9x every day, etc.
Don't really feel like going through the hassle of pugging HFC, so I guess I'll be content with 695 gear from Tanaan via Apexis Crystals and the occasional Normal HFC cache mission.
I'm enjoying the game a lot more now that I've decided to basically ignore all my alts aside from collecting the Garrison Cache every day. No clearing the mine/herb garden 9x every day, etc.
Don't really feel like going through the hassle of pugging HFC, so I guess I'll be content with 695 gear from Tanaan via Apexis Crystals and the occasional Normal HFC cache mission.