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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs
- Thread starter ampere
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If Blizzard was ever capable of subtlety they lost that ability a long time ago.
Too time consuming.
TatteredHat
Member
I know it's going to be a shitfest, but I'm a sucker for playing expansions at launch. 
King Gilga
Member
If you want to do arena enhance has a couple super strong comps from what I hear, lock/enhance/x turbo cleave, and resto shamans are really strong as well.
If you're just doing random bgs than class/spec doesn't really matter, but I wouldn't come back if I was horde, since they apparently lose 24/7 nowadays.
Spoiler alert: You won't finish.
Close! They were absolutely crazy terrible at the very start, before they got buffed. Leveling my ele shaman at launch was more painful(and about as fast) as leveling my priest as discipline not long after. The first buff made them competitive, then the Echo & crit scaling changes made them even better. They've been on a moderate decline since.
King Gilga
Member
I really enjoyed late cata enhance, even with its 0 burst and 0 lust benefits.
But look at it this way, enhance got more attention during the expansion reveal than the whole rogue class, that's go to count for something.
I can't wait to see the 40 various ways people spell Illidan
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
the alternate universe Old Gods are going to come to current Azeroth before anything happens with Lich King again
the stupidity will never end now
RPGCrazied
Member
So, who do you think is going to die? You know someone is going to. I mean Blizzard did say we would be shocked. Thrall bites it? I'm going to guess Tirion going out in in a spectacular way too maybe.
No, no you missed what is truly going to happen.....
Thrall has a son now.
A son.
Of Thrall.
What does Blizzard do......
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I feel like Tirion's death is all but confirmed. Thrall is possible obviously, but I wouldn't be surprised if he just gives up Doomhammer for whatever reason.
Varian is possible. New Anduin model, character blurb about him learning "the true price of peace" and the fact that Varian's sword would make a perfect warrior artifact.
Sylvanas won't die at Broken Shore, but it looks like they are setting up some kind of shit to go down with her later in the xpac. She might not make it to 8.0
Also, since the Marksman artifact is a Windrunner bow, Vareesa might bite it. Just in time to be replaced by Alleria.
It's a damn shame, the Old Gods would give us so much cool stuff if utilized properly. We could have WOW take on a Lovecraftian survival-horror sort of vibe.
Probably a few different people.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I think the Old Gods are probably the most interesting part of WoW, gets more to the core of the idea that Azeroth is special in some unknown way yet to be fully explained.
I suppose the next expansion will get to that now -- at least we'll know why the Burning Legion cares so much about Azeroth. Hopefully it isn't some pride thing where its like "well, we gotta go back cause they beat us once already"
if it mattered that much they could just go to Alternate Azeroth and just deal with that one instead?
jaundicejuice
Member
Blizzard was keen to point out that "some heroes have lost hope" when discussing the artifact system so that means they don't have to kill anyone, just sideline them.
I'm Horde, I casually play BG's while leveling up. It probably helps that I've solo queued a few thousand hours in Dota and HotS solo but it also probably helps that I am new and have low level goals to shoot for. For example I have almost earned my Belf Battle Chicken mount (Swift Warstrider).
I think I've won exactly one match with my Blood Elf Fire Mage but I also kind of expected to lose a lot while learning, nevermind the growing disparity between the factions in PVP.
I'm Horde, I casually play BG's while leveling up. It probably helps that I've solo queued a few thousand hours in Dota and HotS solo but it also probably helps that I am new and have low level goals to shoot for. For example I have almost earned my Belf Battle Chicken mount (Swift Warstrider).
I think I've won exactly one match with my Blood Elf Fire Mage but I also kind of expected to lose a lot while learning, nevermind the growing disparity between the factions in PVP.
RPGCrazied
Member
Marksman gets the bow? I don't want the fugly gun. But I love my pets. Guess I'll be transmogging over the artifact gun.
TatteredHat
Member
Can you transmog the artifacts onto other artifacts? Could you potentially transmog the artifact gun into the artifact bow?
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I really don't think it will work that way.
TatteredHat
Member
Me neither, but it'd be kind of funny if you could.
RPGCrazied
Member
Probably end up going Survival maybe so I can keep my pet, and try out the melee hunter out. Raptor strike returning?
jaundicejuice
Member
That would defeat the entire point of the artifact system, which is to give each class and spec a flavour weapon.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Yeah I'm totally pumped to be melee troll fighting side by side with my dinosaur bros.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
almost assuredly. Raptor Strike, Wing Clip, and diversification/addition of Traps will probably happen.
i would guess there is going to be a spear throw on a long cooldown
maybe they'll turn black arrow/explosive shot into some sort of trap variant if they dont give them to BM
King Gilga
Member
This is still the worst thing they ever did to Enhancement
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why can't i glyph that back to stormblast
I'd rather them remove ascendance all together and buff wolves to hell and back.
And make fire ele not a major dps CD again, just put it all into wolves.
But yeah, sith lighting zap was 10000000x better than the transparent glaive toss shit they gave us in it's place.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i suppose that could make sense logically, i would just be disappointed if that were the case.
I mean, Alternate Universe was created when Kairoz and Garrosh went there, if Burning Legion ruled everything already they would have already had Draenor under complete control when they got there and wouldn't be staging a similar version of their previous invasion which we are rebuffing.
and now technically there are 2 places left that havent been taken over by Burning Legion.
Nope.
This comes up like every other day, it's amazing how many people who never actually read a book cite it as a resource.
jaundicejuice
Member
I think I figured out the next expansion after Legion, Crisis on Infinite Azeroths. That way Blizzard can kill Earthen Ring Shaman Thrall and bring back Warchief Thrall or any other hero for that matter.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
we get our artifacts in Legion but still keep the best versions of the heroes! sounds great
Robin64
Member
It's not a theory, it's been confirmed by Blizz. Weapon drops in Legion will be in the form of items that improve your Artifact weapon.
It's not a theory - it's confirmed. Fine with me, you still have to kill bosses/do quests/etc. to get higher DPS from your weapon, so the only thing you're really missing is the possibility of using different types of weapons.
It's not EXP. The Artifact has slots that you can socket items into to give the weapon stats - those items are what the bosses drop. Gear is being de-emphasized in PVP.
Ok that seems reasonable i'm assuming these parts are going to have LFR, Normal, Heroic, and Mythic versions.
I took away from the pvp talk that gear would still matter a little bit but not nearly as much. I hope it doesn't end up where i need to do a mythic raid to compete with my weapon and gear(set bonuses). I know about the scaling but the set bonuses can make or break a fight.
Well, we already have Gul'dan awakening Illidan who gained his demonic powers by absorbing the power of Skull of Gul'dan. Awkward.
I think Pandaren crew got buffed to be stronger than Human/Undead when it applies. I don't think 2x H/UD gets there.
Ah that may well be the case.
If I fail this at 96% chance I am cancelling my sub. I will be that mad!
Yeah, I have an all undead fleet(aside from my Awakener & the 2 murloc ships), and now I wish I had pandaren, but there's no way I'm starting over with my shipyard.
It's just another example of how poorly thought out the shipyard is. Destroying and rebuilding a ship for a good crew and getting tauren is really annoying.
HarryDemeanor
Member
Tirion, Varian, Thrall, Darion (again), and Khadgar.
Schweinehund
Member
I still like the vanilla windfury animation better than the current one.
https://youtu.be/_zyCfc00KuU?t=1m26s
I liked the way the wind trailed you as you moved.
Kind of eying enhance shaman just because I like being the underplayed classes.
I'd be down for some Earth 2 Anduin Lothar that survived the war. Anduin, Khadgar, Medivh, Turalyon and Alleria form the Justice Society of Azeroth.