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[Anoregon]

Enhance is one of those specs that they could and probably should totally rework for 7.0. I mean keep the overall theme of dual wielding axes/maces/fists, short cooldown ghostwolfs and elemental attacks, but do major ass tweaking to the actual skill interaction and rotation.

 

[iirate]

Enhance is one of those specs that they could and probably should totally rework for 7.0. I mean keep the overall theme of dual wielding axes/maces/fists, short cooldown ghostwolfs and elemental attacks, but do major ass tweaking to the actual skill interaction and rotation.

Without a doubt. On top of what you mentioned, it(and the class in general) needs a MAJOR cooldown prune. My personal wish list is fire ele to elemental, reworked earth ele to resto, and feral spirits for enh. Then you have can have throughput cooldown tier for large cds, with a new and improved storm elemental, ascendance, and a passive option.

Resto could probably still keep spirit link and healing tide as well, but slt can't stay linked w/echo.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Also: No new expansion rumours. We probably need a new title.

 

[Data West]

Honestly, WF is the reason I still main my Shaman all these years later. My Shaman wasn't my first character(though it was my first main) but I have the best memory of it.

When you struggled through the Charred Vale and old Needles and your attack rotation was 'Earth shock, refresh lightning shield, auto attack' you know true pain. Then you hit 30. And I'm never one to overrate experiences, but my greatest memory was hitting 30 on my Shaman, getting WF and finally understanding that I was a killing machine.

And then I hit 40. And got Stormstrike, mail armor, and dual wield. And then I became death incarnate(per vanilla leveling standards. I still couldn't beat my Hunter that could solo elites, back when that was supposed to be 'hard') like that fucking escort mission in old needles or the old tiger in the cage.

 

[Brawndo Addict]

Honestly, WF is the reason I still main my Shaman all these years later. My Shaman wasn't my first character(though it was my first main) but I have the best memory of it.

When you struggled through the Charred Vale and old Needles and your attack rotation was 'Earth shock, refresh lightning shield, auto attack' you know true pain. Then you hit 30. And I'm never one to overrate experiences, but my greatest memory was hitting 30 on my Shaman, getting WF and finally understanding that I was a killing machine.

And then I hit 40. And got Stormstrike, mail armor, and dual wield. And then I became death incarnate(per vanilla leveling standards. I still couldn't beat my Hunter that could solo elites, back when that was supposed to be 'hard') like that fucking escort mission in old needles or the old tiger in the cage.

Those old Windfury Hand of Rag videos from vanilla were awesome. It was so inconsistent but damn you felt like a god when it all lined up and you just merc'd someone.

 

[Schweinehund]

dual wield wasn't in vanilla though .

I remember when TBC first luanched, enh shamans dps'd so hard because windfury didn't have an internal cooldown on both hands. They would pull threat and die.

Then they made all spell casting weapons main hand because ele shamans would spec dual wield. Fun times.

 

[McNei1y]

dual wield wasn't in vanilla though .

 

[Data West]

Oh Corpsemaker.

 

[Schweinehund]

That axe from RFK was like king tier for 30-39. IIRC the only thing that could compete with it was Whirlwind weapons for warriors and I think there may have been an axe from SM Library.

Socomm and Mortal strike were two other skills where it really felt like your class came together.

 

[Data West]

You'd go from Corpsemaker or Whirlwind Axe to the axe from SM to the Hand of Anot'suken in ZF(which I believe was 2 handed and then got turned into a 1 hander) and the proc on it could proc your windfury and it gave you aoe which you needed as enhancement back then

 

[McNei1y]

Corpsemaker + Windfury + Frostshock = Death.

 

[Anoregon]

Also: No new expansion rumours. We probably need a new title.

Oh my god that is so stupid and I fucking love it

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Also: No new expansion rumours. We probably need a new title.

This is excellent.

 

[Brawndo Addict]

dual wield wasn't in vanilla though .

Yeah I know, that's why I mentioned the Hand of Rag windfury videos which are vanilla era shenanigans. I was just jumping off the prompt of older versions of Windfury, not whether Shamans could dual wield or not.

 

[Granadier]

are shamans kind of shit now?

 

[Robin64]

Pre-Expansion Invasion Event

The invasion hits all of Azeroth, so we will see invasions in many different zones throughout the world.
We are seeing new demons and engines of war that we have never seen before.
There will be some period of time over weeks that Azeorth is being invaded and the various factions will decide how they are going to handle it.
Players will have demon invasions they need to fight against, all leading up to the launch of the expansion.
The Broken Shore will be part of this launch event.

 

[SargerusBR]

Pre-Expansion Invasion Event

The invasion hits all of Azeroth, so we will see invasions in many different zones throughout the world.
We are seeing new demons and engines of war that we have never seen before.
There will be some period of time over weeks that Azeorth is being invaded and the various factions will decide how they are going to handle it.
Players will have demon invasions they need to fight against, all leading up to the launch of the expansion.
The Broken Shore will be part of this launch event.

This is what i wanted to see.

 

[strafer]

Poor Azeroth..another invasion

 

[Zelias]

Pre-Expansion Invasion Event

The invasion hits all of Azeroth, so we will see invasions in many different zones throughout the world.
We are seeing new demons and engines of war that we have never seen before.
There will be some period of time over weeks that Azeorth is being invaded and the various factions will decide how they are going to handle it.
Players will have demon invasions they need to fight against, all leading up to the launch of the expansion.
The Broken Shore will be part of this launch event.

And the Alliance and Horde are supposed to be hit hard by this initial invasion, right? I want to see that reflected in-game through this event. I want Zombie Invasion levels of disruption.

I suspect it'll just end up being 'kill demon boss when it spawns through a portal in X zone for 685 loot', though.

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

I'm really hoping that at some point they do away with the whole two resources for DPS rotations thing. I can't think of many specs over all classes that aren't

Spend Resource 1 to get Resource 2
Stack Resource 2
Spend Resource 2 on Cooldown ability
Repeat

 

[Robin64]

At this point, the mana bar for my ret paladin is nothing more than a formality. A relic of a bygone era.

 

[lazygecko]

Honestly, WF is the reason I still main my Shaman all these years later. My Shaman wasn't my first character(though it was my first main) but I have the best memory of it.

When you struggled through the Charred Vale and old Needles and your attack rotation was 'Earth shock, refresh lightning shield, auto attack' you know true pain. Then you hit 30. And I'm never one to overrate experiences, but my greatest memory was hitting 30 on my Shaman, getting WF and finally understanding that I was a killing machine.

And then I hit 40. And got Stormstrike, mail armor, and dual wield. And then I became death incarnate(per vanilla leveling standards. I still couldn't beat my Hunter that could solo elites, back when that was supposed to be 'hard') like that fucking escort mission in old needles or the old tiger in the cage.

I leveled as elemental from 1-38 and then switched to enhancement. Managed to get mail gear from SM and that slow 2-handed mace from Uldaman by the time I was in the early 40's, so I got introduced to the glory of two-handed windfury from the best possible circumstances. I remember crushing a whole alliance questing party in Arathi Highlands on my own.

are shamans kind of shit now?

Improved Reincarnation being one of the bonus passives you get in WoD tells you all you need to know about how Blizzard are treating the class.

 

[RPGCrazied]

From Blizzard:

Pre-Expansion Invasion Event
The invasion hits all of Azeroth, so we will see invasions in many different zones throughout the world.
We are seeing new demons and engines of war that we have never seen before.
There will be some period of time over weeks that Azeorth is being invaded and the various factions will decide how they are going to handle it.
Players will have demon invasions they need to fight against, all leading up to the launch of the expansion.
The Broken Shore will be part of this launch event.

Cool, I just hope they give incentives for max level players to go out and fight legion in the older zones. I hope they don't phase them out to lower level players. I think that would be fun trying to level with high level legion around wrecking shit!

 

[strafer]

That axe from RFK was like king tier for 30-39. IIRC the only thing that could compete with it was Whirlwind weapons for warriors and I think there may have been an axe from SM Library.

Socomm and Mortal strike were two other skills where it really felt like your class came together.

dat different colored armor

 

[Anoregon]

At this point, the mana bar for my ret paladin is nothing more than a formality. A relic of a bygone era.

Arcane mage is pretty much the only DPS spec that pays attention to mana at all, other than warlock life taps. Hybrid DPS have (low) mana as a way of limiting their healing ability more than anything else.

 

[Schweinehund]

dat different colored armor

That was awful. I was so happy in WOTLK when you got some pretty awesome looking leveling armor. The plate still looks damn good. WOTLK was the last expansion with art direction I really liked, though there have been some great sets here and there since then.

From Blizzard:



Cool, I just hope they give incentives for max level players to go out and fight legion in the older zones. I hope they don't phase them out to lower level players. I think that would be fun trying to level with high level legion around wrecking shit!

Sounds a lot like the naxx vanilla event, which was fun in it's own way.

Yeah I know, that's why I mentioned the Hand of Rag windfury videos which are vanilla era shenanigans. I was just jumping off the prompt of older versions of Windfury, not whether Shamans could dual wield or not.

Yeah I'm just playing with ya. I remember the totem quests as well, as annoying as travel quests are I still liked the lore and feeling of them. The Draenei ones were much better. I miss the druid ones in a way, so this expansion really appeals to me in that regard.

It's kind of petty people are ripping into Blizzard about audience reaction at Gamescom, having visited Germany (and loved it, Koln especially) it's not a huge surprise that the crowd was mostly quiet and focused. Germany is just very task oriented, sims are popular over there. That being said, yeah some of the dev presenters were dry and the jokes fell flat. It wasn't a great presentation but I'm excited about the information and new features.

 

[Tenebrous]

That axe from RFK was like king tier for 30-39. IIRC the only thing that could compete with it was Whirlwind weapons for warriors and I think there may have been an axe from SM Library.

Socomm and Mortal strike were two other skills where it really felt like your class came together.

Pendulum of Doom was by FAR the most powerful weapon in the 30-39 PvP bracket. I twinked for years (mostly during TBC) in 30-39, and that 4.0 swing speed on a 39 Warrior against newbies in greens was just amazing.

 

[Enosh]

man the legendary quest is starting to piss me off

this week was the first time I got a fucking legendary ship mission and now 2 days latter still not seeing the second one, people already have the rings and I have the tomes but the fucking missions just won't spawn

 

[Schweinehund]

Pendulum of Doom was by FAR the most powerful weapon in the 30-39 PvP bracket. I twinked for years (mostly during TBC) in 30-39, and that 4.0 swing speed on a 39 Warrior against newbies in greens was just amazing.

Forgot about that, must have been beast before they normalized weapon speed on ability damage. I remember all the rogues using barman shanks for that 2.2 dagger speed .

 

[strafer]

This place is so dead, I really enjoyed reading their gear and dps stuff

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forum/145-warlocks/

 

[Robin64]

I'm at 11 tomes, having only done LFR. Ugh, 4 wings to get through this week. Got a 56% drop rate so far, too, so I hope to get 6 or 7. The final slog...

 

[Zelias]

I'm at 9. I sometimes join my guild's normal runs (they have a more organised heroic team but I have neither the time or patience for organised raiding anymore) but also rely on LFR a fair bit.

 

[Anoregon]

I have 13 tomes as of killing all LFR bosses last week. Also I started the 2 day draenic sea chart mission last night. 86% success rate. I am expecting a 3-ship loss failure.

 

[komplanen]

Very off topic really but something funny just happened:

1. Excited for Legion, want to return to WoW. Super WoW fever making brain into putty
2. Buy physical WoW+expacs 10€
3. Buy WoD digitally 45€ (credit card)
4. Buy Token digitally 20€ (credit card)
5. Create 90 Druid
6. Login, play for an hour and think "I've made a huge mistake. Why am I playing this game again when the cool content is months away?"
7. Super regret my 75€ spent on this game (for the millionth time) and start googling refunds (not gonna work)
...
8. Receive email saying digital purchases cancelled due to new credit card info not going through because my address was wrong
9. Back to having spent 10€ on WoW feels super amazing
10. Feels like I just saved 65€ lol
11. Might still level up a toon from level 1 if I ever get the fever again during the 30 days I have left

 

[Robin64]

For what it's worth, 90 to 100 is still "cool content".

 

[Tenebrous]

For what it's worth, 90 to 100 is still "cool content".

Is it really? I know I've praised it in the past, but it all just feels like one big cookie cutter corridor with no sense of exploration or accidently stumbling over a new quest. It's pretty dull from an adventure POV.

 

[komplanen]

For what it's worth, 90 to 100 is still "cool content".

I have already played it once and whilst much of it was decent I really honestly just had a moment where I was like "Nope. Not gonna do this shit again". That moment was a little after I got garrison up.

Now if I remembered my "temp" account I used to level up in WoD I'd resurrect my already level 100 Druid. But it's kinda hard when I named the account gmail and battle.net tag something like "WOW-WOD-ACCOUNT-DRUID" and wasn't exactly ever going to return to it.

I make the best choices.

EDIT: It was on a server and faction I wasn't maining and mainly to play with a friend. How knew I'd actually ding 100 and ever want to go back.

 

[strafer]

Cataclysm really did a number on WoW.

On paper it sounded amazing but now not so much.

 

[Rose of Eternity]

I did 90-100 three times. 3. Outside of every xpac's max level I had done no leveling whatsoever in the last 8 years. And yet some how WoD made me do it on 3 characters and not want to punch myself. I would say 90-100 is a success, but that's because they drown you in xp.

 

[Granadier]

Improved Reincarnation being one of the bonus passives you get in WoD tells you all you need to know about how Blizzard are treating the class.

I remember Shaman's being beast mode back in the day, so I made one as my first character coming back. Was pretty disappointed in how bland they feel now.

 

[Zelias]

I feel like Wrath had the best questing, but WoD was pretty good too, and bonus objectives were a nice touch I hope they stay with. Sometimes on alts I just want to grind mobs and not go through RP I've already seen before.

 

[strafer]

I feel like Wrath had the best questing, but WoD was pretty good too, and bonus objectives were a nice touch I hope they stay with. Sometimes on alts I just want to grind mobs and not go through RP I've already seen before.

Of them all I feel MoP was the best.

 

[Robin64]

Is it really? I know I've praised it in the past, but it all just feels like one big cookie cutter corridor with no sense of exploration or accidently stumbling over a new quest. It's pretty dull from an adventure POV.

Well, for one time only. Not sure it stacks up to being repeatable, but I think that of every questing experience regardless of expansion. But yeah, decent-ish quests, loads of rare mobs and treasures to find, a sprinkling of bonus objective (before level 100 made you hate them)..

 

[Loxley]

I feel like the zones in WotLK were the best to quest in (nothing will ever top Grizzly Hills or Howling Fjord for me), but I would give either MOP or WOD the nod for best quests overall.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Their quest design is still pretty damn good given the constraint that it is all a big ol theme park and your adventure has a finite duration. The only time they've ever really messed it up was the cata revamp in parts of Kalimdor, leaving plenty of incomplete/boring areas kind of half baked like Desolace and Silithus. Apart from that the quests are still the most consistently strong part of WoW.

By far my favorite quest zone remains Icecrown Citadel. Not sure what it feels like to quest there now that everything can be solod but it was pretty satisfying to get multiple groups through the chains of quests leading up to the finale at the foot of Icecrown Citadel.

 

[Rose of Eternity]

I feel like the zones in WotLK were the best to quest in (nothing will ever top Grizzly Hills or Howling Fjord for me), but I would give either MOP or WOD the nod for best quests overall.

Hills, Fjord, and Tundra are the worst beginning zones ever. Quests are all over the place, the walks are super long, the new races were terrible, the hubs were terrible. Everything outside of the dungeons was so bad.

 

[Gnomist]

I enjoyed leveling in WoD to a degree. I thought the quest flow was solid and having lots of little treasures to encourage me to navigate the terrain and explore how to get somewhere was enjoyable. I hope they push that even further for Legion.

I still feel like questing is at a point where it's TOO designed. I'm always following breadcrumbs and never discovering something on my own. The sense of discovery is kind of lost when I know I'll be led to everything I need to do and see.

Similarly I think we need NEW ways to explore the environment. Whether a player package addition or vehicle or some environmental element or whatever. I wish there was something that opened up the world in an interesting way that made me seek out new opportunities for exploring.

 

[JSoup]

I'm at 27 books with six bosses left.
I could be done with this crap this week if RGN is on my side.

 

[Rose of Eternity]

I'm at 27 books with six bosses left.
I could be done with this crap this week if RGN is on my side.

good old RG..Neezus.....

 

[JORMBO]

I only have 13 tomes. I only do LFR so my motivation usually isn't there to kill all the bosses I can each week. It's so boring and the queue is usually long.

I keep telling myself I am going to complete the legendary line this expansion. I gave up during the last collection phase in Mists.