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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
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Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
It's definitely my biggest complaint/concern with Legion. Some classes/specs just seem to have received way more work and attention than others. It's not a numbers "I want to be top on ,meters" issue either, which some people seem to have a hard time grasping.
Like, it seems like there were very few times during the alpha or beta where Blizzard went "this isn't working that well/people don't seem to like it, let's do something about it." So a few specs are live feeling pretty lackluster.
It's certainly slow this time, isn't it....
At least the Nintendo Direct is on in a minute!
Yep, that did it.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
im still curious how Blizzard is going to move forward with weapons after these artifact weapons. Are we going to be wielding the same weapons 10 years from now with just new skins and visual effects? Are they going to be taken away somehow in future expansions?
Anyway.. loving Highmountain.
Anyway.. loving Highmountain.
RoninChaos
Member
I maxed out fishing in 10 minutes -- completely by fluke! I fished up a brooch in Azsuna that gave me a 5 minutes buff that let me see invisible, never-ending pools with ghostly queenfish. When you use a ghostly queenfish(and other rare fish too, I guess) you release it and it gives you +5 fishing skill for each one. After fishing at the pool for 5 minutes, I had 19 of the fish. Released em all, and I was maxed out
Where did you find the Brooch? Just random?
I need to start working on the fishing artifact but I really need to get to 110. We start raiding in three weeks. lol
Fragamemnon
Member
We're almost certainly going to have to expend the artifact's power to just to start dealing with the next existential threat. Or maybe just to warm up Khadgar's dinner.
Dandy Lyin
Member
Yeah, I got it randomly while fishing in a cursed queenfish school in Azsuna. I've gotten 2 other rare baits while fishing as well, and I haven't really gone out of my way to fish. From what I've read you get them from pools rather than just fishing randomly(or the chances are higher anyway), so I fish every pool I come across.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=133704/rusty-queenfish-brooch
It's one of the "baits" for the rare fish needed for the Bigger Fish to Fry achievement(which is a prerequisite for the Underlight Angler).
Edit: You can increase your chance of getting it by doing the Conjurer Margoss portion of this guide:
http://www.wowhead.com/guide=4498/t...ns-fishing-artifact#optional-conjurer-margoss
I assume they will just release more and more skins and colors for it and keep expanding the artifact tree's for now.
Add another tree line on the weapon in the next expansion for example.
That or they default what you gained from said weapon automatically into your class and then bring in new Artifact weapons in the next expansion... but that could get tricky for those who didn't play Legion by being perma unpowered.
I bet something about we have to use to to close the Tomb of Sargeras portal, and they are "tied" to the Broken Isles because of it.
Sgtpepper89
Member
Got my shadow artifact to lvl15 now. 11,3k for next one >,<
I suppose im almost forced to work a little on the holy one instead. Might aswell do since 5man queues as dps suck..
I suppose im almost forced to work a little on the holy one instead. Might aswell do since 5man queues as dps suck..
Feeroper
Member
Im on a low pop server and I am thinking of moving over to a higher populated server.
The 2 Ive narrowed it down to are: Tichondrius (PvP) and Emerald Dream (RP-PvP)
Anyone have any insights on either of these servers? I have no issue with RP, but these 2 are the most appealing looking. The big thing Id like to see is world PvP and good enough Alliance/Horde balance, which these 2 appear to have.
I've been having a hard time making up my mind. I want to use my boost on one of them, but want to be sure its a good server - can anyone give me any insight here?
Thanks.
The 2 Ive narrowed it down to are: Tichondrius (PvP) and Emerald Dream (RP-PvP)
Anyone have any insights on either of these servers? I have no issue with RP, but these 2 are the most appealing looking. The big thing Id like to see is world PvP and good enough Alliance/Horde balance, which these 2 appear to have.
I've been having a hard time making up my mind. I want to use my boost on one of them, but want to be sure its a good server - can anyone give me any insight here?
Thanks.
Malick[AI]
Member
My guess is they will be obsolete next expansion. They will re-do core skills and talents and give people a new carrot attached to a stick.
All the aspects are weak as fuck now. They gave up most of their power when they helped nuke Deathwing.
That was retconned. If that was the case, she wouldn't even have a dragon form.
Just like Cenarius getting bodied in WC3 was made meaningless
Just like Cenarius getting bodied in WC3 was made meaningless
Dandy Lyin
Member
The big old blue dragon in Azsuna says that the aspects were all weakened because of Deathwing...
Responsibility, needing to actually know and execute mechanics and coordination, they can't appreciate good things. That and DPS rotations tend to be more involved, as a tank a lot of your brainpower is focused on trying to stay alive.
I actually prefer the play style of tanks but tanks are always expected to lead and know every mechanic of every dungeon by heart so I avoid it in group settings.
DPS will pull ahead once people get some gear. There were some logs/sims that showed the difference to be almost 100k dps in raid gear.
Ya I get that, but tanking specs can keep aggro without out dps'ing the dps specs. It's hard to feel like a damage spec when your tanks out damage you.
Yea This almost happened to me except I did increase the skillcap before it happened lol.
That is a great guide, but question: It shows maps and talks about the fish. Where do you fish for say Highmountain > Ancient Highmountain Salmon?
Understood. Things may be more balanced at the higher end.
RoninChaos
Member
Ahhhh, okay. I'm going to be working on that one this weekend. Good to know. I already have like 35 drowned mana.
For starters, if you're not outdamaging the tank you're doing something wrong. Tanks can do a decent chunk of damage in 5 man dungeons, especially while leveling. But in any kind of non-trivial content with competent DPS they will be at the bottom. Right now is especially weird because people aren't used to new rotations/abilities or they might not have their artifact leveled. I know I could barely stay above the tank when I did halls of valor as Unholy because I had NO idea what I was doing.
Second, the primary characteristic of a tank, above even their survivability, is that they generate a lot of aggro. Having mobs bouncing around unpredictably is usually not a good thing. I'm sure in normal mode 5 mans you could probably send in 5 tanks and laugh at everything though.
As for why they do a lot of damage - it wasn't always this way. For example Revenge used to do effectively no damage but it had a huge threat modifier on it. Warriors would hold aggro by spamming sunder armor (no damage) on everything. At one point Blizzard realized that some people might want to quest or even PVP as a tank so they removed the extra threat mechanic and either replaced or made those abilities do extra damage while giving tanks overall much higher threat generation. They still don't compare to DPS but it's quite viable to do quests as one especially if you're making big pulls.
All that said...I'm fully expecting to top the meters in the first 5 man I tank with randoms. That's usually how it works out.
What I'd like to see is for them to carry forward, but have them give a second artifact for each spec. Have them be sidegrades with different playstyles. Would be a balancing nightmare I guess but hey whatever.
Dandy Lyin
Member
Ouch! hahah
I think with Ancient Highmountain Salmon you can fish anywhere that gives you Highmountain-specific fish(as opposed to ocean fish).
Jellycrackers
Member
Can confirm. Leveling as prot warrior, my routine is:
- Pull 10ish mobs
- Cast Ravager on the group of them
- Immediately do Battle Cry (or whatever that shout that gives you 100% crit chance is)
- Neltharion's Fury (Artifact skill, AOE Fire channeling)
- Revenge
- Thunder Clap
- That stun AOE (forgot what it's called)
- Then spam revenge/shield slam/devastate as they cool down
- By then, something has usually died, so Victory rush my health back.
It's REALLY satisfying seeing all those numbers pop up, especially when they're all crits.
Jag
Member
Even little crap, like most classes having convenient Class Halls. I think half the classes even have portals.
Even the title was given little thought. My Druid is now an Archdruid. An iconic and revered title that has been used throughout WC. My Paladin is Highlord. Hunter is a Huntmaster. WTF is that. At least they could have used Ranger-General.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I mean there's tons of little stuff to nitpick if you want to go that route
Alonsus Faol has dialogue about how this is what naturally happens when you spend too much time with the Shadows and it was obviously going to happen during a Priest Hall quest meanwhile, he's elected a Shadow Priest with the most powerful known Old God weapon in the game to lead every priesthood
Alonsus Faol has dialogue about how this is what naturally happens when you spend too much time with the Shadows and it was obviously going to happen during a Priest Hall quest meanwhile, he's elected a Shadow Priest with the most powerful known Old God weapon in the game to lead every priesthood
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
That's actually one of the reasons I decided to start Legion on my DK instead of Shadow priest- I knew the class hall stuff for priest is totally incongruous with playing Shadow and that's kind of a bummer.
Most of it comes after you hit 110 but the sooner you can get going on it the better. There are long timers on follower missions that you want to start.
You can do stages once you get a quest(my DK got it at 100 to start). Then the next stage will become available to you once you hit level requirements.
It's something they've suffered with way too long. Everything is about Holy and to a lesser extent disc. Their priest ideal is holy. They'll throw in the occasional nod at Priests but they'll design the vast majority of their tier gear and quests for Priests around the holy ideal. I said it before, but they give Warlocks the Old God and Sha tier sets just because they don't want Holy priests complaining it doesnt fit their class
It'll never happen but I've always wanted them to take Shadow out of the Priest tree and replace it with a proper Holy DPS ranged character then if they added a Necromancer type class to put Sahdow as one of the non-pet specs for that like as an Acolyte or Cultist or whatever.
Weird... my usual trick for soloing Razorgore doesn't seem to work on my dwarf paladin. When I was doing it with my belf earlier it worked just fine. When I click the orb while controlling Razorgore, I keep losing control. This never happens on my other characters.
Edit: It works fine again after using Gamon's Braid to turn myself into a tauren, so it definitely appears to be a race-related issue. How odd.
Edit: It works fine again after using Gamon's Braid to turn myself into a tauren, so it definitely appears to be a race-related issue. How odd.
Sure. The quest is short and switching to Veng is useful for soloing tough mobs for quests and stuff. Plus you can get short tank queues for dungeons.