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World of Warcraft |OT8| CITIZENS OF DALARAN
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Blizzard has never liked high mat prices sticking around for a long time.
they gave us a personal garden and a personal mine last expansion. blood of sargeras forces you to go out into the world and do stuff.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
wow, the difference between Ret and Prot is like night and day.
Didn't stop Dro from spawning in during two void-lords pulled by withered running away, and nuking all my army down....not enough stuns in the world to prevent his omnislash.
Did manage to kill the bastard with only 1 withered left....only to fall through the world in the spider-egg room, 'lose' my withered, and get ported out.
GG Blizz.
Think next time I'll just sack the withered early to get the 25% damage and mage boosts in prep for later runs.
All I want from them at this point is the fox mount, or I'd leave it alone entirely.
Didn't stop Dro from spawning in during two void-lords pulled by withered running away, and nuking all my army down....not enough stuns in the world to prevent his omnislash.
Did manage to kill the bastard with only 1 withered left....only to fall through the world in the spider-egg room, 'lose' my withered, and get ported out.
GG Blizz.
Think next time I'll just sack the withered early to get the 25% damage and mage boosts in prep for later runs.
All I want from them at this point is the fox mount, or I'd leave it alone entirely.
It's hard until you switch to a tank spec and then it's a complete joke
MMaRsu
Member
Im.brewmaster so ^_^
I was able to kill Dro in my run earlier, he drops a key apparently, so if you can manage it, its worthwhile. That being said, he nearly obliterated my army in the process.
Sadly, I died and couldn't get to see what's within, and it seems the key can't be saved.
I have no way to stop his attacks. My only form of crowd control is a two second stun with a two second timer on its activation, with a 30 second cooldown. Mind control makes him evade bug and regain all his health.
What is a beta for ¯\_(ツ
_/¯I like Withered Training but as someone who has done it with a DPS spec with a longer cooldown CC and on a tank with a shorter CC, something should be done about Dro. On my Brewmaster, I kill Dro before he kills any Withered assuming I don't screw up and on my Enhancement Shaman I can't kill him before he kills me and that is using Bloodlust on top of him killing off my Withered.
I have no way to stop his attacks. My only form of crowd control is a two second stun with a two second timer on its activation, with a 30 second cooldown. Mind control makes him evade bug and regain all his health.
What is a beta for ¯\_(ツ
You're a priest? you can literally EITHER stun his attack (it stops it completely). or Dominate Mind and use him to shred the instance. But, I heard just complaining works better than adapting!
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I hate Warlock so much right now but I don't want to switch off. Guess I won't be raiding, not like I would get invited anyway. Right now I'm just dragging down my guild groups when they have to begrudgingly invite the waste of space that does less dmg then tanks.
Freeman76
Member
Why do you think this will happen?
Edit: just saw what you can buy with bloods. Rip 80g per felslate lol
The stun lasts two seconds, then he still tears through ME. Also, relying on mind control to not act like the buggiest thing in the world is hilarious. I use mind control, it expires and he evades back to his spawn, then runs straight back to me at 100 kilometers.
Thanks for the input though! As usual your "lol you're a priest git gud" is helpful.
NumberThree
Member
Just wrapped up the Rogue class storyline. That was damned good. Miles better than the Shaman story.
DK is next I think
I started the rogue one a few days back and it was really fun. The shaman one is cool for the sheer scope of it.
About assassination artifact quest: It's a bit weird how a human rogue who's supposedly one of Azeroth's greatest heroes can just kill people in Stormwind during the quest.
SlickShoes
Member
I'm only a week and a bit late to the game, but man I'm instantly remembering why tanking is such a thankless task.
I've done two dungeons so far and enjoy the demon hunter tanking but each one has had DPS that are trying to take shortcuts, skip mobs, moan at me for being too slow.
I'm not going to research normals outside the game, so I'm learning the dungeons by doing them which is great as everything seems new but I hate ta king for these people, it's only going to get worse I can imagine but I'd like to think I still have a chance at enjoying the content.
I thought about changing to the dps spec but sort of feel locked in to my artifact already.
I've done two dungeons so far and enjoy the demon hunter tanking but each one has had DPS that are trying to take shortcuts, skip mobs, moan at me for being too slow.
I'm not going to research normals outside the game, so I'm learning the dungeons by doing them which is great as everything seems new but I hate ta king for these people, it's only going to get worse I can imagine but I'd like to think I still have a chance at enjoying the content.
I thought about changing to the dps spec but sort of feel locked in to my artifact already.
Tell them to slow down, it's not mythic+.
Killing him isn't the hard part - it's killing him before he kills all but one of your Withered
Lanrutcon
Member
Dro is horseshit.
He should not respawn. He should be a once off challenge, not a black mark that makes you hate the event and your spec every single time. Try fighting him as a class without reliable interrupts. See what happens.
As for that 7.1 Suramar spoiler...I'm sorry. but Suramar and the Nightier Night Elves haven't been around long enough for me to get attached to their fate.
He should not respawn. He should be a once off challenge, not a black mark that makes you hate the event and your spec every single time. Try fighting him as a class without reliable interrupts. See what happens.
As for that 7.1 Suramar spoiler...I'm sorry. but Suramar and the Nightier Night Elves haven't been around long enough for me to get attached to their fate.
Kinda hoping the Legion totals the place. Would make it easier to navigate, and demons don't need Ancient Mana. Yay!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
An illusion! What are you hiding?
What a surprise.
I have no way to stop his attacks. My only form of crowd control is a two second stun with a two second timer on its activation, with a 30 second cooldown. Mind control makes him evade bug and regain all his health.
What is a beta for ¯\_(ツ
I killed him first try as a disc priest. I have nothing.
Lost 4 withered. What is supposed to be hard about this guy?
Though I guess I had one upgraded withered with an interrupt from what I've seen.
Lanrutcon
Member
He has a aoe rush attack that virtually 1 shots withered. The more withered you have, the more withered you lose.
If you didn't stun him when he goes berzerk I find it highly questionable that you only lost 4 withered. Unless you only had 5 withered and 1 was standing apart from the rest.
Shadow priests are way squishier than disc priests, though. Like, by an infinite amount.
I had 17 withered and we steamrolled him like everything else in the dungeon :|
I saw my mage withered interrupt him so maybe that gave me enough time I don't know. Can you fear him btw?
SlickShoes
Member
Aye I'll try and take a bit more of a hard line, everytime I stop to make sure what way we are going or become slightly cautious with huge packs of mobs I get "REALLY? OMG" typed in the chat.
I assume loads of folk played the beta or have just been living in dungeons since release, just wish they'd realise some folk are playing a new class and just started the game back up after 2 years away.
phoenix296
Member
Lagged out and lost 12 withered... :|
they are, they just change it up every day, and you only do the ones for the stuff you need. We knew this already
They said there were a large number of world quests so it wouldn't be boring right away. But I get the same set every two days, and some I do every day. They should correct their algorithm or make more quests.
Also stop always saying "we already knew this" every time you try to correct people, you're the one in this thread always asking about the most basic stuff everyone knows about and that you could learn in 1 minute of reading wowhead.
Yeah, theres suppose to be ~500 of these quests, which seems like a ton but I think the issue is that they seem to evenly distribute them across zones. Then they are further divided by profession, pet battles, pvp, dungeons, warden, kirintor, ect.. so the "bucket" of regular quests you see commonly ends up not being that big when you're cycling them in 4 times a day.
That said, I do still vastly prefer this system to dailies since you can cherry pick the ones you want and the rewards are immediate.
Lanrutcon
Member
I'm actually not sure, but it's on my list of stuff to check. My Destro lock doesn't have any controlled stuns, so I'm really hoping fear works.
I'll give it a whirl once I'm back up to max mana later.
I agree and realize this 100%, that said I feel some quests return too often and some not enough. Some adjustments to be made and all that.
I'm still curious however how their randomizing system works, since it seems every time there is some problem with frequency.
My mission table gives me at the moment 3 missions to get the same shitty item reducing mission duration by 5%.
NumberThree
Member
Is it normal not to have any order hall missions available? Haven't had any since yesterday except for the Suramar fox mount ones. All my champions are level 110, but I haven't upgraded their gear much.
(Stealth brag? I don't know how common the mount quest item is, got it from a Nighfallen emissary bag a couple days back)
(Stealth brag? I don't know how common the mount quest item is, got it from a Nighfallen emissary bag a couple days back)
Thats possible too. Thinking about it, every equipment mission Ive gotten has been for the boots that give 20% success chance on missions longer than 8hrs. There should be a "cooldown" on some missions/quests and rewards so that you dont immediately see them again.
Aquavelvaman
Banned
I got 4 850ilvl and 3 840+ pieces today between my 2 110 characters. All the 850 pieces came from world quests. Crazy.
I love the pace of the game right now, for my level of seriousness, and I hope it stays similar to this for the rest of the expac.
I can log in, do a handful of world quests on both of my 110s, get some nice upgrades (both are above 835 now!) and then do whatever I want. I can keep slowly upgrading my characters just with world quests and the occasional dungeon. It's great. Later on I'll add in mythic+ and some pug raiding, but not much.
I don't mind being way behind the curve of ilvl, as long as I can always keep progressing somewhat regularly this way.
I love the pace of the game right now, for my level of seriousness, and I hope it stays similar to this for the rest of the expac.
I can log in, do a handful of world quests on both of my 110s, get some nice upgrades (both are above 835 now!) and then do whatever I want. I can keep slowly upgrading my characters just with world quests and the occasional dungeon. It's great. Later on I'll add in mythic+ and some pug raiding, but not much.
I don't mind being way behind the curve of ilvl, as long as I can always keep progressing somewhat regularly this way.
They aren't, which makes their cost even more laughable.
So respec shadow? It's not important that every spec have an easy time, just that every class can do it.
In general, go for control and survivability in withered training, your personal dps is a drop in the bucket compared to the withered themselves, they absolutely shred things.